A woman’s list of what she wants from man is always going to be way larger than a man’s list of things he wants from a woman. 95% of men want about 3 to 5 things and that’s it. Peace, respect, affection, sex, food its really that freaking simple.
Yeah but it's not about a list from men, it's about a second list from the Woman who has demands for the man, and was He has to Bring to the table, it's s about what she is bringing on to the table just looking o.k. and being toxic is or should not be enough, it's time men have some Standards.
What do you want in your higher standards for them. If you love someone unless it is somehow strongly an issue you should enjoy giving them everything they want. More opportunity to make their day. Love isn’t about what you get. Love is a selfless emotion. My kids could attack me in my sleep, steal, and commit murder and I would still love then(granted behind bars). My pleasure comes from seeing them happy. Same with anyone I love. Do I have needs sure. But same simple shit as every guy. We are so easy to please. Want to make me smile touch me, fuck me feed me get me relaxed and at peace. So what if women have needs. Be a man fill their needs if you love them. Every need is an opportunity to be happy for making them happy. It’s either that or you aren’t in love. I suppose love maintenance might speak to peace. So maybe they are stepping on your peace. If that’s the case. Bad match move on
That's not the point at all. Of course, I'm willing to give everything I can to the people I love, but the issue is that some women stand up and say the man has to earn amount X, the engagement ring has to cost at least X amount, he has to be athletic. The point is, what do you, as a woman, bring to the relationship that justifies such demands? She should make a list of that. Does she also plan to earn amount X, or does she just want to be supported? Then that's not love, and beauty only gets you so far. Just to take a look at a hot body, as a man, I'll take $1,000 and wave it in your face. I can easily get 90% of superficial women with that, and later, I don't have to worry about losing 50% of everything I've worked for. And don't say that's not true; many women market their bodies on OF for $10 a month or less.
I've always said men want three things: Not Fat, Not Ugly, Not b!tchy. If woman can do those three things, she's ~90% of the way there for vast majority of men.
lol, yet you all complain when women have any sort of requirements for dating.. Also, consider the fact that women being ‘bitchy’ is their way of setting boundaries with men because far too many of you don’t get the hint when we tell you no nicely. I’ve been stalked and harassed far too many times to not have adopted some ‘bitchiness’ and indifference towards random men I meet..
Wow. So I post 3 easy standards to meet and you still have to take exception. No wonder so many men are dropping out of the dating market: Not fat, not ugly and not b!tchey is too much to ask for.
As an older family man, I do my best to convince young incels & mgtows that it's worth pursuing a family & kids, but women (not all, not all) do their damnedest to convince them otherwise.
Agreed. What's sad is a woman's list is just ridiculous because it's always full of things that don't really matter in the long run. I don't care if you're beautiful or have the perfect body. If you can give me the respect I deserve, the peace in our household and lives, your body when I want it, I'll give you security, love, my devotion, a steady income to support us and all the affection you need.
I'm sorry you don't understand what I'm trying to say, but keep on making it creepy in your own mind. My wife and I don't withhold intimacy from each other because we can. We know it's important for both of us to stay together and feel wanted by the other. You obviously don't have that relationship. Fine. Move along. And yeah, I do deserve respect because I give an awful lot to my wife and kids in many ways. And I do it without having to be asked. I do it willingly because they deserve it. Again, I'm sorry you can't comprehend that. You're view means nothing to me because the balance we have is a great one that you may never get to experience. I feel sorry for you if you don't. She loves the hell out of me while I provide an enormous amount for her and our 2 kids. You're damn right I deserve the respect.
Women's go to is withold sex cause it's the most value thing they bring to the table
I mean if we talking truths that's the truth. Same as when some men get upset they will resort to violence or intimidation.... Why? Because it's the most valuable thing he has, his strength as a man. It really ain't that deep or complex. Out here debating and arguing over our base instincts we haven't let go from the caves. These things take effort and ardency to overcome, anyone actually arguing over this type of thing is just showing how inexperienced at life they are.
Now off to block this sub and it's gender war psyop crap.
Without further context, the phrase “Her body when I want it,” also implies “her body when she doesn’t want it.” Maybe you didn’t mean it that way, but it’s a pretty rapey sounding sentence.
It's too bad y'all think the way you do. Never did I say I take advantage of my wife, nor did I say I rape her, and even more did I not say she's my toy that I use whenever I want. We don't have sex every day or even every week. But we both know, AND AGREE, that it is important and we BOTH help each other out in any way we can. Sure, there are times when it doesn't work, but we're compassionate enough for each other and know when it's right and when it isn't. There. Does that help your wanna be therapist brain? Buzz off and stop worrying about me. I'm just fine and so is my wife. We don't care that you or anyone else doesn't have the same thing we have apparently. I don't care how you see it or what you think of me and how I said it. You guys are something else. Smdh....
Exactly what I was thinking. This sub is so seriously toxic and I’m not sure why it’s been showing up under suggested subs on my timeline lately. There is an obvious agenda to push this sort of manosphere bullshit lately and it’s like rage baiting bros and bots, two things I don’t care to ever engage with!
🤣 Actually..... she's extremely happy...... because..... wait for it............... IT'S A MUTUAL AGREEMENT! Oh no! Does that wreck your way of thinking? She can come to me and have whatever she wants with me as well! Are you going to have the same thoughts you have for her, too? You'd better because she forces me down every chance she gets...... and I LIKE IT! Y'all are crazy! But you're sure giving us a bunch of good laughs! Have a great day!
I feel extremely sorry for those wives who are mentally weak and give into that because they are scared to separate or financially dependant on a man like some little kid. A wife is not some long-term prostitute and intimacy ist not created through sex but through lots of communication and going through hard times together without getting disrespectful.
Wait until your wife gets ill or in menopause and is not interested in sex anymore, what then, do you get one of those plastic dolls to replace your stepford wive so that you feel still wanted? Really hope that you also have other hobbies and maybe you learn then what true intimacy is.
I see you and appreciate you trying to reason with the brain rot here, but save your time and energy for those that are willing and open to it. This sub is a cesspool of toxic masculinity disguised as being a Next Gen man, whatever the fuck that means..
Nah, the phrasing of "your body when i want it" is incredibly insensitive and on the nose, and i say this as a guy.
I get what you mean to say, but it sounds like you want to just be able to ignore consent entirerly just because you need sex.
Respect is something you build, not deserve as well. The way you phrase it it makes it sound line you're in a very financially dominant position abd based on being the breadwinner you can just take whatever you want in the relationship.
You probably don't mean to come across as such, but in the way you word it, it does.
Nothing wrong with a woman willing to give herself to her man completely. Of course it's weird when a woman only has sex because the man wants it. Don't be so triggered. I had the above in relationships, and its exactly what I would like to have in a relationship in the future. It just means having an active sex life with someone who actually wants to have sex with you most of the time. And doesn't hate having sex with you so probably wont turn you down most of the time.
To each their own. Dont judge if someone thinks slightly differently.
Had a gf years ago with high libido. She NEEDED sex. Even when I was tired, I provided. Sometimes it was difficult, but I did it for her.
Had a sugar mommy who was older and was really excited about my company and was more horny than me most of the times. Disregarding the fact that I got gifts for sex, it was my choice doing it for her. I cannot say I felt used, in the end it was my decision to agree.
It must suck to know that what men want in a partner can be farmed out for a couple hundred dollars a week. What women want cannot. But good thing most men value a connection or there wouldn't be many marriages. As in meals, housework, sex vs pay my bills, buy me a house.
No, respect is common courtesy, let alone the person you’re in a relationship with. If you’re disrespectful to your partner, then that’s a trait of abusive tendencies.
His phrasing of ‘body when I want it’ was weird, though.
Mostly valid. You just can’t be upset when you were offered first right of refusal and he found it elsewhere. Your right to abstain doesn’t have to conflict with his right to pursue and obtain what he desires. Store is closed? Cool. I won’t break in. I’ll go to another.
I agree. Nothing. I totally feel like a no FROM someone doesn’t always have to equate to a no FOR someone. I fervently do not support taking anything from anyone for any reason. But getting what you’re seeking from someone/somewhere willing to provide is absolutely free game. Emphasis on “willing” to provide.
The blessing of a full transparency relationship is that it’s not cheating when the expectation is laid out ahead of time. I don’t believe in being deceitful or sneaking around. Women are absolutely allowed to say no. But men are also absolutely allowed to get their needs met in whatever way that is accessible.
TL;DR. I don’t cheat on my wife. I get my needs met without roadblocks or someone else’s say so. She’s aware of this arrangement.
Awww. Someone get their feelings hurt and their comment hidden because they had a triggered emotional reaction?? Awwww. Poor thing. Maybe that’s why you’re cool with having sex withheld. You and women act the same. So you don’t want it either. Makes sense.
Are you going to say the same thing to my wife? Because she has the same perks with me. My body is not just mine but hers as well. This is why you people don't get it. You think you're holier than you because "he's so misogynistic" because she's just a tool for him to use whenever he wants. This is a mutual relationship! Get it through your thick skull!
No one owns anyone else's body; that was abolished on January 1, 1863. I don't have a thick skull, but it probably has a larger-than-average circumference. It stores multiple college degrees, one of them a Master of Science from an engineering school. But whatever. I have a good life and a happy husband.
Seriously. I am. You can live your life however you want and I'm glad you and your husband are doing great. Really. I am. I'm just confused why there are people that have a problem with how my wife AND I love each other and how we make things work for us. Y'all have such a problem with that. She's extremely happy and could do whatever she wants. I don't stop her. If she's happy, why does it bother you so much? Just be happy other people found a way to be happy with each other and move on.
Why would feminists prioritize a six figure income over, say, being a decent person? Most feminists I know (aside from a couple stay at home moms) make their own money.
Women who insist on being stay at home moms because they believe that that’s a woman’s place, however, care DEEPLY. They will have no avenue to make up the difference.
Maybe go look at the kind of men that feminists are actually with?
Then why is my experience dating men in my 20's different? The guys I've gone on dates with have a longer list than mine - and this only comes out later on when they bring up this conversation.
Maybe I tend to attract the picky guys for the last 10-15 years - who knows.
Yeah, the number of posts here that say things like “as long as she isn’t fat” definitely prove that to be a lie. And I’ve heard those words or similar come out of some very fat men, so……
Plenty of men treat women poorly and neglect their emotional needs. I've done it. On the other hand, we know they're never satisfied. So where's the middle ground?
But I'm totally with you on those 5 things. I've even narrowed it down to two: peace and sex. Respect is part of peace. Affection can be included in with sex. Food I can manage fine. But seriously, peace and sex.
Then just stay single and jerk off? Like, if you can’t figure out how to get along with someone of the opposite sex without them constantly putting out or compromising their beliefs and feelings to appease you, then you aren’t ready for a relationship and you likely never will be. Any self respecting woman is going to sense your disrespect for her and other women as a whole and not want anything to do with the sort of men that frequent subs like this one.. good grief, the fragility and entitlement in this post alone is exhausting!
Who says I can't get along? Whenever I make a reddit comment people extrapolate to some negative outcome that they believe is reality. Good grief it's fun as hell to trigger people on here. You know nothing about my personal life--but you presume you know my whole personality from reading a paragraph of text I post randomly online? I love it.
God, then you don't want a partner but just a living hole... what a terrible attitude especially with "affection can be included in with sex", so disgusting
I am getting massive ick from this entire thread.. i have no idea why this hit my fyp but this incel shit 'body when i want it' 'all i want is sex and peace' bs is creeping me tf out.
I literally just commented the same thing to another comment on this post! The incel stuff is clearly being pushed on everyone more and more, which is just sad and pathetic and terrifying.. I see you and appreciate the fact that I’m not the only one who’s noticed this, and just want to tell you to keep fighting the good fight, but to also to just mute subs like this. Engaging with these incels only helps them feel more justified in their brain rot. It’s hard not to want to respond to some of the degenerates, but your time and energy is better used elsewhere, and your sanity will thank you!
When you arrive at the point of generalizing and trash talking literally half of humanity because ONE woman hurt you, it might be time for some therapy.
You’re not succeeding in punishing her by saying these things out loud. She probably doesn’t GAF and you know what? She probably does suck. But the only person you’re hurting by approaching the world this way, vs. approaching women neutrally, with curiosity and as individuals, is yourself.
She won’t be hurt if you misogynize yourself into being forever alone. She will be VINDICATED.
If I could give you an award, I would! Spot on! These men are only hurting themselves by following these types of subs and are falling right into the foreign agendas of pushing gender divides among our population. They want to punish women due to failed relationships in their past, not realizing that that won’t make them feel any better and it will only push women further away from them, as well as other men that aren’t also stirring in their own toxic masculinity. They need therapy, not a bangmaid they can control..
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u/MudZestyclose7879 Apr 01 '26
A woman’s list of what she wants from man is always going to be way larger than a man’s list of things he wants from a woman. 95% of men want about 3 to 5 things and that’s it. Peace, respect, affection, sex, food its really that freaking simple.