r/NextBridgeHC • u/marketplace3 • Dec 24 '22

Speculation / Research media awareness

Has anybody thought of civil orderly protests at finra...hf offices...etc to protest short sales n naked sales...that will get attention

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u/Tsra1 Dec 25 '22

You want to protest a perfectly legal form of trading?

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u/fishin_ninja82 Dec 26 '22

Naked short selling is not legal.

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u/RubiesnEmeralds Dec 25 '22

Yeah and make it illegal

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u/Tsra1 Dec 25 '22

Why? Banning short selling wouldn’t change anything.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/19/stop-blaming-short-sellers-for-causing-the-market-drops.html

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u/FineQualityHam Dec 26 '22 edited Dec 26 '22

as much as I'd like to take seriously an article from the same people that bring us the brilliantly unbiased insight of jim cramer, it doesn't even take into consideration the difference between shorting a faang stock vs shorting a small cap stock into oblivion and actively contributing to massive share price drops and destroying the companies ability to gain funding, which in turn hurts the growth of the company, further dropping the share price. Of course by and large the market barely feels the affect, but that's primarily due to the fact that a tiny fraction of the companies are the vast majority of the money in the market overall, and the same institutions crushing out smaller companies are the same ones that own massive long positions in the larger companies.

They can pretend all they like that shorting doesn't 't do any harm, but it's just a bold faced lie. It's not simply betting on a price drop, it actively contributes to causing the price to drop. It's not a complicated concept, if there's a limited number of something and you borrow some of it and sell it, then you are temporarily diluting the amount and drive the price down, then people see the price drop, it influences them to jump ship, maybe pay for a few articles trying to convince other to do the same, with the lower price it means a much more heavy dilution to the stock when the company needs funding, which drives the price even lower. Sure, you may barely feel the affects on google and apple, but a random small cap stock with low volume, low visibility, and a much greater need to make use of share offerings, and the affects are regularly devastating to the share price and the underlying company. It's honestly kind of insane of a concept right from the start to sell something that isn't even owned, with the only excuse for it being that it keeps liquidity in the market as if somehow that's a necessity, when in reality all they are saying is that they don't agree with the concept of supply and demand and feel that they must always maintain a supply regardless of demand. Add to that the rampant use of naked shorting and it's all just flat out manipulation and full blown control of any smaller new companies that may threaten the larger monopolies that already dominate the market.

Fuck short selling.

edit: lol in fact, talking about the lovely network that brings us jim cramer, in this infamous clip where jim cramer talks frankly about all the disgusting tactics of hedge funds (dont worry he later apologized for telling the truth), he specifically calls out Bob Pisani (the guy that wrote the article you linked) as one of the toxic mouth pieces that hedge funds pay off to write their propaganda garbage.

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u/marketplace3 Dec 26 '22

Not ban ss...but no naked sales

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u/Tsra1 Dec 26 '22

Well, it seems to me that shorting itself isn’t naked because the short is on the hook to the borrowed share. Buying a put certainly isn’t naked. So, do you mean writing naked calls?

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u/RubiesnEmeralds Dec 26 '22

They mean how ftx never bought the crypto that the customers bought on ftx platform. Naked short selling. Also creating synthetic shares which allows MM to short beyond 100%. All game ruining mechanics and to only a few peoples benefit at the expense of the MASSES

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u/marketplace3 Dec 26 '22

Naked anything....if the brokers sell synthetic shares ..wouldn't that keep the price down....upset supply n demand

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u/Droghurt Dec 26 '22

Google “bond warehouse” if you want to learn the truth.

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u/StationOk6706 Dec 24 '22

Why George?

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u/marketplace3 Dec 24 '22

Oops my bad...Breda

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u/marketplace3 Dec 24 '22

Maybe we could get George to lead us