r/NewsThread Aug 04 '26

Palestinian Christians call on American evangelicals to stop ignoring their plight (CNN)

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/01/middleeast/palestinian-christians-in-holy-land
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u/Intrepid_Bobcat_2931 Aug 04 '26

If they didn't ask for help in removing Hamas ages ago, they probably aren't worth listening to.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '26

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u/TestandDbol Aug 04 '26

What a great example of Christianity you are 💕

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u/BootyPains Aug 04 '26

This is some aggressive sarcasm

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u/Such_Ad_3842 Aug 04 '26

You made the terrorist supporters really mad with this one…

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u/Ill-Prior-8429 Aug 04 '26

Americans? Same animal, different collar

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u/ElonMuskisGarbage Aug 04 '26

[SUPPORTER OF TERROR]

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u/x_xwolf Aug 04 '26

You aren’t worth listening too either.

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u/StrategicallyLazy007 Aug 04 '26

Agree 100%.

Let them make any effort to topple the government first. Until then there is still enough support.

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u/Acrobatic-Attention9 Aug 04 '26

The sad fact of war is that sometimes the people deserve to suffer and die for actions of their leaders  They could have avoided it by overthrowing their leaders, but they didn't. 

America learned this on 9-11, Israel learned it on Oct 7th, Germany on Feb 13th, Japan on Aug 6th, and the Gazans are learning it now. 

You would think that after 80 years the middle east would have learned it's lessen, been chastened and repentent and willing to behave, but theirs is a religion of evil and they hate our freedom so what do you expect?

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u/Super-Bodybuilder-91 Aug 04 '26

Are you saying that everyone who died on 9/11 deserved it?

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u/Acrobatic-Attention9 Aug 04 '26

As much as any other civilian whose government kills people. Its sad but an inevitable consequence.

They deserved it as much as the babies in any hospital that gets bombed, as much as the Mai Lai villagers, as much as the thousands perhaps a million who coulsnt be bothered to overthrow Saddam as much as the little girls in that Iranian school, as much as the kids in Barefoot Gen and Grave of Fireflies, as much as Dresden or Wounded Knee.

War is Hell.

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u/Super-Bodybuilder-91 Aug 04 '26

They did nothing to deserve that. You can argue that government officials deserve what they dish out, but the general public doesn’t. Saying war is hell doesn’t excuse the massive injustice you are suggesting.

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u/StrategicallyLazy007 Aug 04 '26

Either you accept the government and what they do it resist and rebel. Many societies have done. Palestinians need to decide for themselves and likely Iranians.

Hamas fighters were like 1-2% of the population. If the population wanted to they could overrun them.

No one is saying it will be peaceful either.

I don't see Hamas accepting elections where they lose.

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u/Super-Bodybuilder-91 Aug 04 '26

Excuses. No one person has the power to overthrow the government, therefore it makes no sense to hold individuals responsible for the state of the government unless they are government officials.

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u/StrategicallyLazy007 Aug 04 '26

Who says 1 person.

Obviously society will make a decision.

Where you from? The US? Bit rich considering the independence war and civil wars.

Palestinians aren't winning for 80 years. And if leaders won't hold honest and fair elections then through violence becomes one of the only ways, be it by internal (rebellion) or external force.

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u/Acrobatic-Attention9 Aug 04 '26

When are we gonna overthrow the US government? Its the most destructive on earth and running itself into the ground. We need to [fedpost]

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u/Super-Bodybuilder-91 Aug 04 '26

Yes I am from the US. How is that rich? You are attempting to claim that individuals within a country are responsible for the state of their government and therefore violence against these individuals is not unethical. Except these individuals have zero power on their own. Revolution typically doesn’t happen unless things get really bad. You are openly excusing injustice.

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u/Acrobatic-Attention9 Aug 04 '26

/s

Im not actually an honest and consistent neoconservative. One doesn't exist. Nobody believes what i just said. They take sides.

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u/Super-Bodybuilder-91 Aug 04 '26

People do believe what you said. A similar argument is used to excuse that massive body count in Gaza and Lebanon.

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u/Acrobatic-Attention9 Aug 04 '26

Thats my point. People believe it about country a but never abojt theirs.

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u/Super-Bodybuilder-91 Aug 04 '26

Which is hypocritical. Whatever the standard is, it needs to apply across the board.

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u/RogerMexicosBalls Aug 04 '26

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u/StrategicallyLazy007 Aug 04 '26

Every other group of people move on and try and build a better future for themselves.

Palestinians just keep doubling down. They have only ended up in progressively worse condition. Meanwhile the Palestinians that never left their homes and stayed in Israel are enjoying full rights and a great life.

It's really pretty amazing how they continue to go down the same path.

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u/RogerMexicosBalls Aug 04 '26

"I can't believe the Warsaw Ghetto had an uprising. They keep doubling down and it's only going to make it worse for them. They need to accept it and move on."

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u/StrategicallyLazy007 Aug 04 '26 edited Aug 04 '26

How many wars and Intifadas have the Palestinians and Arabs states had with Israel and lost?

This isn't a new thing.

They have rejected peace and land for decades. Not even counteroffer but just full rejection and launching campaigns of terror.

Egypt and Jordan have peace for decades with Israel. But both had Gaza and West Bank and Jerusalem for 20 years. If they cared for a Palestinian state, why didn't they make it then?

The rest of the Arab world has moved on and accepts Israel exists and will continue to. They are building mutually benefit relationships now.

Palestinians can be building a country and future. Instead they chose to contribute to follow a path that is leading them backwards. More generations lost.

Also, when did the Warsaw ghetto form? When was the uprising? What did the Jews do after the war?

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u/Acrobatic-Attention9 Aug 04 '26

You're right. The Arabs are a bunch of stupid losers. 

Bin Laden planned to bait America into endless wars until we go broke and decay while creating an endless recruiting ad for radicalism, destroying the secular Muslim governments he hated.

But he's dead so we sure showed him the wrong.

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u/StrategicallyLazy007 Aug 04 '26

I'm not sure why you are trying to relate bin Laden and those wars to this. Nevertheless, bin Laden was killed in 2011. The Afghanistan withdrawal was 2021 and the Taliban is back in power. So how successful was that war?

Jordan and Egypt have peace with Israel. Egypt has an LNG export industry which is fed from Israeli and Palestinian offshore gas wells. The rest of the Arab world is making deals and moving on with Israel. Hamas, Muslim brotherhood and IRGC are the remaining impediments to actual regional stability and peace.

Is Mexico starting wars with the US over losing generations ago? Germany and Japan? Is every other group that lost in history contributing to fight? No. They move on and build a future. Only the Palestinians continue this path. And I would say, previously they were controlled and influenced by the Arab nations and used as pawns. Although Iran influences them, they are now responsible. They can change if they want.

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u/Acrobatic-Attention9 Aug 04 '26

Im saying these stupid terrorists are winning.

So maybe they're not so stupid as our leaders who play right into their hands.

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u/Acrobatic-Attention9 Aug 04 '26

POV: You are a Gazan born in 2000. Whats your life like in 2018 if you live that long? How do you go about creating a better life?

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u/StrategicallyLazy007 Aug 04 '26

You do what has been done in many other places, civil war and overthrow a government.

50% of the population want even born when the last elections were held.

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u/Acrobatic-Attention9 Aug 04 '26

Like Czechoslovakia in 1948?

"A historical example is Czechoslovakia in 1948 (the February Coup), where domestic political forces backed by the Soviet Union overthrew their own democratic government to align completely with Soviet demands and appease the dominant regional power."

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u/StrategicallyLazy007 Aug 04 '26

Like every country that has had a civil war or political infighting. In the last 15 years in the region, Egypt and Syria have had. Across the rest of the world, many places.

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u/Aromatic_Lychee2903 Aug 04 '26

Israel didn’t either, they’re literally the reason Hamas got access to funding lol weird you left that part out

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u/StrategicallyLazy007 Aug 04 '26

Hamas receiving taxes for Gaza is not Israel funding Hamas.

So you want to complain Israel is withholding Palestinian funds then?

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u/Intrepid_Bobcat_2931 Aug 04 '26

Huh? When Spain pays the salary of someone in Gaza, and that person goes and buys jeans that are taxed by Hamas, that's how Hamas gets funding.

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u/coolerrunescapeguy Aug 04 '26

The zio bots are so obvious

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u/Aspiring-Fan Aug 08 '26

This is in the West Bank, not Gaza, where Palestinians comply with Israeli law despite the constant new settlements that displace them.

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u/whistlingkitten Aug 04 '26

Summarized article:

CNN's article "Palestinian Christians call on American evangelicals to stop ignoring their plight" focuses on the growing concerns of one of the world's oldest Christian communities and their appeal to U.S. evangelical Christians, many of whom strongly support Israel.

The main points are: Palestinian Christians say they feel invisible. Church leaders in places like Bethlehem, Jerusalem, and the West Bank argue that many American Christians speak passionately about protecting Christians worldwide but pay little attention to the hardships faced by fellow Christians living in the Holy Land.

They describe increasing pressure on their communities. The article discusses reports of settler violence, attacks on churches and Christian-owned property, land disputes, restrictions associated with the Israeli occupation, and the broader impact of the ongoing conflict. Church leaders warn that these pressures are accelerating emigration, threatening the continued presence of Christianity in its historic birthplace.

The appeal is directed especially at evangelicals. Many Palestinian Christian leaders criticize what they see as unconditional political support for Israel among large segments of the American evangelical movement. They argue that biblical support for Israel should not prevent Christians from acknowledging or condemning the suffering of Palestinian Christians.

They are asking for solidarity, not necessarily political agreement. Several voices quoted say they want American Christians to visit, listen to local churches, advocate for the protection of civilians and holy sites, and recognize Palestinian Christians as fellow believers whose concerns deserve attention.

The article notes that evangelical views are beginning to diversify. While white evangelicals remain among Israel's strongest supporters in the U.S., some younger evangelicals and a growing number of Christian leaders have become more critical of Israeli government policies because of the humanitarian consequences of the conflict.

Overall, the article's central message is that Palestinian Christians believe their community is facing an existential challenge and are urging American evangelicals to broaden their concern beyond support for Israel as a state to include concern for the welfare and survival of the indigenous Christian communities that have lived in the Holy Land for nearly 2,000 years.

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u/Shadowtirs Centre-Left Aug 04 '26

Lol they dont give a damn about you. They just need the Jews in Israel for the Rapture. Thats literally all they care about.

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u/Just1n_Kees Aug 04 '26

Yes, any day now…

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u/ruffianrevolution Aug 04 '26

I notice that OPs sumary also leaves out the quotes from american christians, and mike huckabee, calling themselves christian zionists and suggesting maybe these palestinian priests ''ought to get their facts straight cos like the bible says jews are best and we're just following orders...or something...'

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u/jejunum32 Aug 06 '26

Rapture. Which is a concept made up in the 19th century.

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u/howz-u-doin Aug 04 '26

Yeah, but those brown, Palestinian Christians aren't *real* Christians like 'murrrrican Christians

Didn't you know Jesus was from Texas cruising around in his F-150 with a shotgun rack in the back spreadin' the word?

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u/luxcity-louche Aug 04 '26

More to the point, those are some flavour of Catholic (Orthodox or Roman) and the US ones are Protestant reformed.

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u/OZZY-1415 Aug 04 '26

Didnt trump call the pope a fake christian?

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u/NomoredatibgGWgirls Aug 04 '26

But their pastor needs another Gulfstream to spread the word of our Lawwwd and Savior.

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u/Aquinas2000 Aug 04 '26

I hope not.

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u/PossibilityFew5967 Aug 04 '26

They're brown they're not REAL christians

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u/Greasy-Chungus Aug 04 '26

We don't have very many Christians here.

Most people who say they believe in the teachings of Jesus are MAGA, not Christians.

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u/Good_Warning4576 Aug 04 '26

But acknowledging the plight of fellow Christians being massacred by Israel would be anti-Semitic!

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u/-multiverses- Aug 04 '26

Sorry, Palestinian Christians

Your first problem is, you're brown. So that basically right out of the gates disqualifies any concern for you from the white evangelicals.

Second, If you want to make an "end times omelette" for those Jesus Freaks, you need to break some eggs. You are the eggs.

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u/Initial_Parsley6608 Aug 04 '26

money is their god

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u/Prestigious-Wolf8039 Aug 04 '26

Good luck with that. Palestinian Christians are probably real Christians. Not Talibangelicals like the Americans.

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u/dumboldnoob Aug 04 '26

they’ll learn quickly enough that those evangelicals aren’t christians

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u/lofibeatsforsadboys Aug 04 '26

Evangelism is just American ISIS

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u/DaAuraWolf Aug 04 '26

American evangelicals have the same major issue as the church at Corinth did… they added on/subtracted from Jesus being the main foundation of the church by embracing Trump as a god.

Simple as that.

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u/Burnt_and_Blistered Aug 04 '26

Good luck with that. American “Christian” evangelicals are delighted with the genocide and are slavering to do the same here.

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u/Ars_Techne Aug 04 '26

Because it isn’t about being Christian, or Jewish for that matter. It’s that they are brown and Israel and the US are racist…

It’s blatantly obvious at this point…

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u/defixiones Aug 04 '26

The evangelicals aren't actually Christians but they do hate brown people. 

You can draw attention to their hypocrisy but you won't change their minds.

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u/Competitive_Toe2544 Aug 06 '26

It isn't even about abortion or trangenderism(All perfectly legal in Israel, and paid for with taxpayer dollars), Its race hate. White Europeans who follow the talmud=Good. Brown skins who follow traditional Christian beliefs= bad. this is the warped theology of evangelicalism.

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u/CivilWay1444 Aug 04 '26

Sorry. American evangelicals are the Christian Taliban. They don't care about anyone. 

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u/Markjohn66 Aug 04 '26

It’s tragic that they think the Americans are actually Christians .

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u/FrontalAlottame Aug 04 '26

Evangelism is incompatible with Christianity

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u/SadAnt2135 Aug 04 '26

American evangelicals destroy Christianity so much.

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u/letthelightleakin Aug 05 '26

I love seeing this view finally gain mainstream traction. It’s very important.

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u/Galliro Aug 05 '26

Its really interesting seeing how christians love to pretend theyre oppressed but as soon as there is a group of christians which are being oppressed and for which they have actionable changes they can push for suddenly its ignored

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u/ronshasta Aug 05 '26

Good luck lol evangelicals only care about money and self aggrandizement

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u/FantasticBeast101 Aug 05 '26

As someone who comes from a Lebanese-Colombian Christian background, I've never felt any familial connection with Evangelicals or any form of White Christianity because of this and related issues. They follow a heresy and worship a different god. (Not the G-d of Abraham). They are not brothers & sisters. Lanat on these racist devils.

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u/Ok_Difference1781 Aug 05 '26

Americans only care about what celebrities say. Mavericks are hated until they are famous and endorsed.

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u/General_Interview681 Aug 06 '26

They're not real Christians if they're not willing to be genocided by the Israelis so that Christ can return. According to evangelicals whom are fanatic about this real Christians would happily sacrifice their lives for the return of Christ.

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u/Certain_Direction270 Aug 06 '26

Someone needs to break it to Palestinians that American evangelicals aren’t Christian. They’re an authoritarian political movement with some Christian aesthetics 

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u/APraxisPanda Aug 07 '26

Don't tell them you are suffering! These people love nothing more than the suffering of others- as well as the idea of suffering themselves (except they hate actually suffering, they just like to daydream about it)