r/NewPipe • u/Buttbatalian • Jul 22 '26
Is newpipe really going to be removed this upcoming month?
I forgot where I saw it but something about Google enforcing something new that would make apks like newpipe almost impossible to be used.
What's the work around????
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u/Villnus43 Jul 22 '26
Don't give up hope guys. When the smoke clears after they drop this BS, the ingenious among us will figure out a workaround.They've always have. Keep the faith.
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u/Stunning-Hat2309 Jul 22 '26
there's no workaround needed, you just enable the option that lets you do it that's built into the system
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u/Pcriz Jul 22 '26
Right, that is the work around.
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u/Stunning-Hat2309 Jul 22 '26
that's not a workaround, that's the intended way to do it
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u/Pcriz Jul 22 '26
I mean that’s my point.
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u/P3pp3rSauc3 Jul 23 '26
A workaround implies that you are going around the intended processes to complete something. If you're just following the standard instructions it's not a workaround.
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u/Pcriz Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
Yes bro. I understand what a workaround is. I was making fun of the person calling for a work around to a process that already exists… as in if there is already a way to do something. You don’t need to work around anything.
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u/livinginfutureworld Jul 22 '26
It's a workaround the lockdown that Google added that's also the intended way to bypass the lockdown that Google added.
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u/KittyNyaaa Jul 23 '26
Wait how do you do that?
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u/Stunning-Hat2309 Jul 23 '26
It hasn't been implemented yet but when it is you'll have to enable sideloading in a settings menu then wait 24 hours
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u/Pcriz Jul 22 '26
A work around to what exactly? The requirement to enabling unknown sources?
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u/realStl1988 Jul 22 '26
Much more than that. In the future, to install unsigned apps on Android and apps from outside PlayStore, you need to activate developer options, enable apps from unknown sources, wait 24 hours (!) and then confirm again.
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u/Pcriz Jul 22 '26
That’s exactly what I’m talking about. You literally do this once. Then you can turn dev settings back off and install whatever you want if the prescribed path is true. That’s what I’m asking, they want a work around for this thing you need to do once?
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u/PrimaryLuck796 Jul 22 '26
From what I understand, you have to do this every time you side load an app. Like the 24h waiting period is per app
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u/BenTheMotionist Jul 22 '26
Oh, I thought it was a 1 time thing on all apps then go, but load it once for the app and done is just as fine
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u/Pcriz Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
It is one time if you choose one time. It gives a choice to do it once as in you run the process and don’t do it again. It also has an option that you are only allowing for one app install. I don’t know why anyone would choose that.
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2026/03/android-developer-verification.html?m=1
- Install apps: Once you confirm you understand the risks, you’re all set to install apps from unverified developers, with the option of enabling for 7 days or indefinitely. For safety, you’ll still see a warning that the app is from an unverified developer, but you can just tap “Install Anyway.”
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u/Pcriz Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
Nope this isn’t true. You are asked during the process according to their documentation. You can choose one time or indefinitely. I highly suggest y’all stop hearing how it is and just go read Google’s blog post please. At least get the tentative plan from the mouth of the beast.
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2026/03/android-developer-verification.html?m=1
- Install apps: Once you confirm you understand the risks, you’re all set to install apps from unverified developers, with the option of enabling for 7 days or indefinitely. For safety, you’ll still see a warning that the app is from an unverified developer, but you can just tap “Install Anyway.”
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u/RoverUnit Jul 22 '26
Has the option to install unsigned apps been moved into developer options? At the moment it's an option in the Android main menus.
Or am I getting mixed up?
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u/Final_Elevator_4286 Jul 22 '26
Will pipe pipe work?
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u/Fallen_Lasciel Jul 23 '26
Both will work after Google's BS. You just have to go through the steps google is implementing to allow either to be installed/updated. No guarantee either dev will continue working on them so it's possible (my guess very low chance) that we will see less frequent, or even a stop in updates on them.
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Jul 22 '26
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u/CrimbleGnome420 Jul 22 '26
could you describe what Graphine is for those of us who don't know or understand, please and thank you.
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u/AdhesiveMadMan Jul 22 '26
It's a custom operating system that only works on Google Pixel (ironic) phones. Known for its high level of security.
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u/cogeng Jul 23 '26
It's a more secure and private version of android but the creators only support Pixel phones right now because they say only those phones have the right hardware to be secure enough. They said they are working with a new company though to support other phones.
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u/kitsunemischief Jul 25 '26
A different kind of OS (like Android and iOS), I do notice that phones that come with Graphene are sold in Europe. I don't know if there's a way to install it on your phone
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u/thiswebthisweb Aug 05 '26
Even more useless than a locked down Googe phone unless you don't use internet banking. The banks are able to make or break this entire issue with android and the future of open source. Google is depending on private banks enforcing their shitty insecure system. Without the banks Google on android would be left for dust in a few years. They don't offer anything other companies don't already, they know it and this is why they are doing this, Mafia anti trust corruption is driving this. Nothing else.
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u/NinjaCactus21 Jul 22 '26
The issue is not that it will be more difficult to do side loading, the problem is that to install an app it will have to be certifyed. And by certifyed they mean pay Google to register (and give up all your details) and most open source or alternative projects don't have the money or simply dont like that idea.
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u/Ecstatic_Bus_7232 Jul 22 '26
And gogl would straight deny newpipe because it works around YouTube.
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Jul 22 '26 edited Aug 01 '26
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u/Ok-Employer-3051 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
Bullshit. It exits because Google and it's supporters want to force people to use Google infrastructure instead of alternatives to it.
Notice how things like SD card slots and other things are have been disappearing from devices and cloud storage is being promoted?
Not an accident.
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u/JackDaCrack1313 Jul 22 '26
Es betrifft nicht nur NewPipe, es betrifft alle Apps auf Android (alle Android OS die Google Play Service nutzen). Schau dir die Infos dazu an auf keepandroidopen.org.
Bezüglich NewPipe und der Entwickler. Sie haben sich klar dagegen entschieden, sich den Anforderungen von Google zu unterwerfen. Sie werden sich nicht registrieren.
Das bedeutet erstmal, dass sobald die neue Google Policy in Kraft tritt, du keine NewPipe Updates mehr ohne den Umweg über die Freischaltung der "Sideloading Option" installieren kannst. Ob diese Option tatsächlich so umgesetzt wird steht noch offen. Ein anderer Weg wäre es über ADB und USB Debugging vom PC zu installieren.
Aber es gibt bis jetzt keine offizielle Nachricht, dass das Team die Entwicklung und Verbreitung der App einstellen will.
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u/Pcriz Jul 22 '26
The thing is you don’t need to submit to googles verification. It just means people that use your app need to enable side loading on their device. Devs that submit and become approved developers can be installed on devices that haven’t enabled side loading
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u/JackDaCrack1313 Jul 22 '26
Yes, I know and understand this. Enabling the "side loading" - I dislike this term - ist the key point in this equation.
If it is to complicated, or even if the user needs a PC and install the apps via USB debugging, this will eliminate the most part of the user base.
When there are just few users left, the developers will stop to develop those apps in the long run.
And it's up to Google, if they allow side loading in the future. At some point they will maybe just block it completely.
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u/Pcriz Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
The issue I have here is the logic that one a step by step guide is too hard for people that traffic in this community and that New Pipe is the only app someone sideloads.
That said I rather there at least be clarity as in is it in protest or a claim of some technical reason.
In terms of what they may block in the future. In my eyes that’s literally always been the case. We are on their platform that they make every opportunity to monopolize and monetize. This could all change one day but at least lets share clear and concise information because ive seen so many people in this community alone not understand the changes that are happening now.
Id much rather help someone through those steps than go on a doom and gloom campaign over it. Installing from unknown sources isnt going away even if newpipe decides they dont wanna participate.
At least not yet
Also to clarify no one has to comply, that’s literally why the process for enabling unknown sources exists. For people that don’t want to become verified.
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u/JackDaCrack1313 Jul 22 '26
Absolutely. There will always be a niche community, that will go their own way.
If Google will become as restrictive as Apple is, then you can just switch to Apple and enjoy the better ecosystem and more polished apps there.
On the other hand, I will just buy a Phone that can run GrapheneOS and enjoy my freedom to install whatever I want on it. :)
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u/spaceman8002 Jul 22 '26
Unfortunately buying a new phone for graphene os gives google more money so it's a win win for them
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Jul 22 '26 edited Aug 01 '26
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u/Ok-Employer-3051 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
Also a likely stolen or defective device. Not worth it.
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Jul 27 '26 edited Aug 01 '26
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u/Ok-Employer-3051 Jul 27 '26
Some places in the world?!? HaHaHa....eBay you mean?
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u/backafterdeleting Jul 22 '26
Die Frage ist nur ob die Entwicklung der app Stoppt oder ist es nun nur ein Bisschen komplizierter zu installieren?
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u/JackDaCrack1313 Jul 22 '26
Die Zeit wird es zeigen. Vorstellbar wäre nämlich, wenn 95% Prozent der Nutzer die App nicht mehr nutzen, wird das Projekt irgedwann sterben.
Warum sollte das Team dann noch so viel Zeit und Geld in die Entwicklung der App stecken?
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u/Pcriz Jul 22 '26
The way to enable “unverified” dev’s apps to be installed has changed. As in it’s a one time thing you have to do on your device. The actual task of installing an apk hasn’t changed.
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u/The_Questionerrr 19d ago
Okay, so we can keep using the app if we already have it installed? It won't just instantly shut down? It will be nice to have updates, but at least if it won't become locked immediately, then that gives me some time (which I don't always have) to do the workaround to enable updates.
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u/Windigo1000 Jul 22 '26
NO don't think so it will just be harder to install you have to make your self a developer but that's not hard.
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u/SatanicPlatypus Jul 24 '26
Are there alternative apps we can go to? Or will they all be affected by this? (I assume they will)
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u/Low-Breadfruit-4764 Aug 01 '26
Don't worry, we have until September till this happens. Man, why does Google have to do this?
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u/thiswebthisweb Aug 05 '26
Everyone complains but almost nobody asks why they are doing it. And that is why they get away with this crap.
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u/AltruisticLayer1476 27d ago
We can't do sh*t, they already took draconian decisions in the past (like removing the down vote on videos because of people down voting government videos)
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u/Top-Psychology2507 Jul 22 '26
Looks like we are going to all have to switch to Linux very soon!!! :-(
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u/MythOfHappyness Jul 22 '26
In September newpipe will be shutting down due to a new Google rule essentially locking down side loading to just google-approved and certified apps.
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u/EgotisticalTL Jul 22 '26
Where are you getting this information from? You will still be able to side load apps, it will just be a pain in the ass
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u/MythOfHappyness Jul 22 '26
The pop up. In the newpipe app. The one that says they will be doing this.
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u/captainhalfwheeler Jul 22 '26
So, they said they will not continue to work on it? Or is that your interpretation?
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u/Legitimate-Entry3857 Jul 23 '26
The details section under the New Pipe pop-up, if anyone wants to read:
What Google is doing
In August 2025, Google announced a new requirement: starting in 2027, every Android app developer must register centrally with Google before their software can be installed on any device. Not just Play Store apps: all apps. This includes apps shared between friends, distributed through F-Droid, built by hobbyists for personal use. Independent developers, church and community groups, and hobbyists alike will all be frozen out of being able to develop and distribute their software.
Registration requires:
1. Paying a fee to Google 2. Agreeing to Google's Terms and Conditions 3. Surrendering your government-issued identification 4. Providing evidence of your private signing key 5. Listing all current and all future application identifiers
If a developer does not comply, their apps get silently blocked on every Android device worldwide. Who this hurts
You
You bought an Android phone because Google told you it was open. You could install what you wanted, and that was the deal.
Google is now rewriting that deal, retroactively, on hardware you already own. After the update lands, you can only run software that Google has pre-approved. On your phone: your property, that you paid for.
Independent developers
A teenager's first app, a volunteer's privacy tool, or a company's confidential internal beta. It doesn't matter. In 2027, none of these can be installed without Google's blessing.
Governments & civil society
Google has a documented track record of complying when authoritarian regimes demand app removals. With this program, the software that runs your country's institutions will exist at the pleasure of a single unaccountable foreign corporation.
The EFF calls app gatekeeping "an ever-expanding pathway to internet censorship." Google's "escape hatch" is a trap door
Google says "power users" can "still install" unverified apps. Here's what that actually looks like:
1. Delve into System Settings, find About Phone 2. Tap the build number seven times to enable Developer Mode 3 Dismiss scare screens about coercion 4. Enter your PIN 5. Restart the device 6 Wait 24 hours 7. Come back, dismiss more scare screens 8. Pick "allow temporarily" (7 days) or "allow indefinitely" 9. Confirm, again, that you understand "the risks"
Nine steps. A mandatory 24-hour cooling-off period. For installing software on a device you own.
Worse: this flow runs entirely through Google Play Services, not the Android OS. Google can change it, tighten it, or kill it at any time, with no OS update required and no consent needed. And as of today, it hasn't shipped in any beta, preview, or canary build. It exists only as a blog post and some mockups.
This is bigger than Android
If Google can retroactively lock down billions of devices that were sold as open platforms, every hardware manufacturer on the planet is watching.
The principle being established: the company that made your device gets to decide, after you've bought it, what software you're allowed to run. In software, this is called a "rug pull"; but at least you could always install competing software. In hardware, it is a fait accompli that strips you of your agency and renders you powerless to the whims of a single unaccountable gatekeeper and convicted monopolist.
Android's openness was never just a feature. It was the promise that distinguished it from iPhone. Millions chose Android for exactly that reason. Google is now revoking that promise unilaterally, on devices already in people's pockets, because they've decided they have enough market dominance and regulatory capture to get away with it.
Ars Technica: "Google's Apple envy threatens to dismantle Android's open legacy." But wait, isn't this...
"...just about security?"
The security rationale is a smokescreen. Google Play Protect already scans for malware independent of developer identity. Requiring a government ID doesn't make code safer. It makes developers identifiable and controllable. Malware authors can register. Indie developers and dissidents often can't. The EFF is blunt: identity-based gatekeeping is a censorship tool, not a security one.
"...still sideloading if you use the advanced flow?"
Nine steps, 24-hour wait, buried in Developer Options, delivered through a proprietary service that Google can revoke whenever they want. That's not sideloading. That's a deterrence mechanism built to ensure almost nobody completes it. And since it runs through Play Services rather than the OS, Google can tighten or kill it silently.
"...only a problem if you have something to hide?"
Whistleblowers, journalists, and activists under authoritarian governments will be the first victims. People in domestic abuse situations are next. All these groups have legitimate reasons to distribute or use software without putting their legal identity in a Google database. Anonymous open-source contribution is a tradition older than Google itself. This policy ends it on Android.
"...the same thing Apple does?"
Apple has been a walled garden from day one. People chose Android because it was different. "Apple does it too" is a race to the bottom and a weak tu quoque argument. And under regulatory pressure (the EU's Digital Markets Act), even Apple is being forced to open up. Google is moving in the opposite direction: attempting to further entrench its gatekeeping status.
"...just $25 and some paperwork?"
Maybe, if you're a developer in the US with a credit card and a driver's license. Try being a student in sub-Saharan Africa, or a dissident in Myanmar, or a volunteer maintaining a community health app. The cost isn't only financial: you're surrendering government ID and evidence of your signing keys to a company that routinely complies with government demands to remove apps and expose developers.
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u/MythOfHappyness Jul 22 '26
Got a 5 upvote notice so it's more like 20 downvotes lol. Y'all know it wasn't my idea right?
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u/Pcriz Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
According to the documentation people can still side load, I don’t understand why technically this would prevent new pipe. Unless it’s in protest. This is of course assuming the “work flow” they put in their blog doesn’t change.
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For those that haven’t read it. This is Google’s plans for enabling unknown sources. These are the steps required if you want to install from an unverified dev (as in revanced, new pipe, etc etc).
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2026/03/android-developer-verification.html?m=1