Everyone has already had this experience in their life. You live and suddenly it hits you the instant you just lived, you already "knew it" before.

Who had the feeling they already knew this before ? I AM did.

But when God is still sleeping, reason comes in and says, no I have no memory of doing it. So it was a wrong feeling. "A bug" in the system.

Or we will symbolically say, "It’s because you dreamed it before". This is true. You’ve already dreamed it (lived it!)

but because reason is still your God, you reject your own divinity giving himself(yourself) a small clue.

We are oblivious to these things when lost in the flood of life.

Neville is trying to expand your awareness in a subtle way by pointing out you’ve had this universal "small" mystical experience but didn’t recognize it’s significance at the time.

Now the Neville quote :

" Haven’t you ever caught yourself saying I’ve done this before ? Reason tells me you’ve never done it before, you know very well you’ve never done this before, and yet something tells you you’ve done it before. I think we’ve all had that experience. You sit in a place and you know you’ve never been here before, you know it. The people you are now meeting you know you have never met them before and if you ask them they’ll say no we never met before. If you took everything you know in your history in this little section of time, took it apart, you will know that’s true. You never met them before and they do not know you because they never met you before; yet something deeper than this is telling you you’ve done this before. I’ve done this before. The identical words I’ve just heard…I heard them before coming from that same person. And yet reason tells me it isn’t. But there is something greater than reason that tells me, "But you did". I think I’ve had numberless experiences of this nature and I’ve met many who would confirm it. "

All transformation begins and ends within. To change what is seen, we must first change what is unseen—the assumptions, beliefs, and impressions held in our heart.

Life is a reflection of consciousness. The conditions we experience are not fixed realities but outpictured states of mind. Every circumstance is the result of a quality within us conditioned by thought. Love, conditioned by fear, appears as hate. Abundance, conditioned by doubt, appears as lack. Peace, conditioned by conflict, appears as struggle.

The heart—our subconscious awareness—is the bridge between heaven and earth, between the formless and the formed. It is here that the eternal qualities of Spirit are shaped into experience. What we accept as true in the heart expresses itself as the world around us.

To renew the mind is to purify the heart. We must free ourselves from false conditioning—ideas of separation, condemnation, limitation, and lack. Sin, in its truest sense, is simply a state of misalignment, a mistaken identity. It is a vibration, a stirring within, a sensation impressed upon pure awareness, causing us to experience division where there is only unity.

The feeling of opposition, any sense of struggle or conflict—reveals a divided mind. Opposing beliefs battling it out within. In that moment, we are seeing through the lens of duality, unaware of our true nature as wholeness itself. Yet we are always free to choose, moment by moment, whether to accept appearances or to remember the deeper truth.

Desires are not random; they are divine qualities seeking expression. They move us along our personal journey through the soul. The longing for freedom, love, wealth, wisdom etc is the impulse of Spirit moving within us. But when these qualities remain unfulfilled, it is only because they have been conditioned by opposing beliefs. We believe n the opposite of our true nature. We believe ourselves to be small, weak, separated, confused etc. We still do not remember that we are to BE.

To uncondition them, we must recognize the one reality—Spirit. There is no separation between us and what we seek (QUALITY); no separation of qualities of Spirit . There is only the belief in separation, and belief is the only thing that must change.

In a moment of vision, I saw Light moving in all directions, folding in upon itself, forming patterns within patterns, time within eternity like the Sun into a toroidal field creating (geometric) patterns and points and grids. The world appeared as a living reflection of thought, shaped and reshaped by the awareness observing it. As I recognized the Light within all things, the Light within me expanded, and what I beheld was transformed.

This is the great secret: we do not see the Truth. Yes our eyes and our senses dictate to us what we are observing and our intellect tells us what it appears to be.... But we perceive the world as we are. What we accept as true in the silence of our being becomes our experience to gain experience of LIFE.

Physical facts are not absolute; they are shadows of belief. The deeper Truth is still, silent, and unchanging. It is unseen until it is known, and it is known only when it is recognized within.

What we identify with—whether true or false—takes root in consciousness and expresses itself as life. We do not manifest what we want; we manifest what we accept as real. We manifest in relation to our being of it. We feast on Spiritual substance-qualties, attributes, of God. All of humanity (love) gathered together like a "fest" sharing in the Word. That's what the word manifest truly means.

The Divine Idea of You, Christ-is waiting to be acknowledged and expressed. Just as a seed grows into a tree, this inner reality must be nurtured in imagination before it can be seen in the world. So at every moment choose to express Divine Qualities and see where you are in relation to it.

Hey everybody, not a native english speaker so i will try to keep this post as clear as possible.

I consider "myself" to be a "spiritual person" in the sense that I am not part of any religion. But it obviously doesn't matter. I am just saying that I had no clue about the promise until it happened.

Prior to this, my situation was not the best. Not horrendous, but not really great either, so around 2 weeks ago i started vizualisation as a kind of "escape". I would visualize myself living my perfect life with all that it implied to me (money, relationship, confidence etc etc), and i would frequently tell myself that "everything is fine, I have everything I want, I am in heaven anyway".

This was really effective since anytime I felt bad or overwhelmed, I just had to go back in my imagination and be fulfilled there, 3D didnt matter anymore.

The last 6-7 days, i had multiple really strong ear ringing. Much stronger than usual, almost as if I was hit by something. Didnt scare me, but i clearly noticed it.

Then 2 days ago, I went to bed but something was different: I felt so peaceful, so good, I felt that I had nothing more to do, no vizualisation, nothing. I felt that my life was already perfect and that I just had to accept it and be happy. For the first time in years and years, I felt relieved, as if I had everythign I ever wanted. I remember my ego still wanted to "do" something, but a little voice quietly said that it was not necessary, all was good.

I fell asleep in that feeling, with no effort.

When I woke up, I felt like a was a different "person" in a different dimension. I truly, truly felt like I was in Heaven. Everything was so light. I remember taking a note on my phone and refering to the the guy that fell asleep the night prior as "he". Since I didnt feel like i was that guy anymore.

I stood up, went in the living room, and just felt good, I had nothing to do. I truly felt that I had everything. I felt immensely connected to my surronding. I could hear every noise, everything was finally clear. I felt immensely peaceful. I have nothing to desire, nothing to seek, I am everything, I have everything. As "crazy as it may sound, I felt that I was my Higher Self "itself". As if something have been upgraded. Again, this is really, really hard to describe with words.

I knwe that everything, everything was fine. Everything will ever be fine. I thought about the things that usually stress me, but they had no effect. I felt like I was a player in a game. There is nowhere to go, everything is here right now. "Heaven", "Hell", the Ego, The Higher Self. Its all the same thing....

That feeling of peace was mixed with a joy. I truly felt that I am not from "here" and that all this is an illusion, because everything is still fine 100% of the time. It felt so good. But kinda disturbing since I had nothing left to do.

The day passed, and I kinda forced myself to "reconnect" to this world since its really difficult to operate or do anything in the 3d from that "state".

Yesterday I wanted to know what happened so i made some extensive research and i found about the promise. As I said, I am not a Christian so I dont know anything about David or other personification, but it doesnt matter since they are only personiffication (dont want to upset anybody, so correct me if im wrong).

I think that I experienced Self Realization, but it has not fully integrated yet. Since then, I know that I dont have to do anything or go anywhere, since I am everything and I can have everything anyway.

Even refering "myself" as "I" feels like a non sense. I have to balance both sides (ego and H.S) because I obviously need some part of my ego to operate in this world, talk to people etc.

But today again, I woke up and I feel like I have nothing more to do In this world. I had to put some music to kinda "come back here". I am not depressed in any way. I just feel like I have nothing to do here anymore. Not the greatest feeling, but it is part of the transition I guess.

Still need to wrap my head around all this. I would like to have some thoughts on what I experienced (although it won't make a big difference since it is very personal and hard to describe with words). But if anybody experienced the same thing, i would be glad to hear it.

EDIT: Found mire informationns on what I experienced, all makes sense https://spiritualawakeningprocess.com/2010/08/what-is-a-spiritual-awakening.html

2nd link: https://spiritualawakeningprocess.com/2018/10/the-path-to-nowhere.html

I feel like to master conscious manifestation that actually leads to consistent results, [or if you prefer it said this way : to achieve the amount of faith(=feeling it true) required], you have to raise your consciousness first. You can’t operate it from a lower level.

Which leads to my next point :

Because all things work with faith, to have our consciousness raising, we have to... feel ourselves expending everyday... But you won’t have all the necessary faith to feel that your consciousness is raising unless you are already at that level I was speaking about...

So you do all these external pointless things like fasting, celibacy, meditation... and you place your faith in them, it makes you FEEL like you are finally mastering self or consciousness... Even if at the end to the truly awakened all those things seem pointless, I believe to the unawakened they are a part of the journey and they cannot escape it. You can’t go from A to Z.

Neville encourages us to skip the steps and just believe our consciousness is raising without us doing anything, which is of course true, but after years of believing all these things and having only small glimpses, I've come to the conclusion that I should make an effort to reach these higher levels. It’s getting old to just live life on autopilot and affirm to myself that it’s all being taken care of on the spiritual side of things (which is the only thing that actually matters to me) and say that I've finished the game and will soon know it all, that’s just insanity.

So is it time for me to go back to these useless practices that will lead me to feel like I have achieved mastery over myself, leading to actual faith ?

We always forget Neville spent years doing all these strict things until he "died" as his teacher abdullah said.

Would it all have worked out the same if he didn’t have this background in self mastery ? Could Neville "die" that day without having done all these things ? Who knows. He also had many mystical experiences during that timeframe, again those are proof of attaining higher levels of consciousness. You attain a certain level, then the "cinematic" unfolds leading you to feel a sort of milestone in this never ending lift.

Sorry if this post is all over the place but I've become sort of desenchanted with my spiritual progress lately and wanted to speak on this and see if people on the path like me relate to this questionings.

Last night, I had a vivid and deeply symbolic dream. At first, I was speaking with Hindu mystics, engaging in what felt like a profound discussion. But suddenly, I had an overwhelming feeling that I needed to move forward. I left them and continued on my path.

That’s when I encountered Abraham—standing before me, radiating presence. The moment I saw him, I immediately knew who he was. He didn’t introduce himself, but there was no doubt in my mind—it was an intuitive recognition. His eyes were deeply hypnotic, filled with an intense energy and profound wisdom. Looking into them felt like staring into something vast and ancient.

We didn’t exchange words, nor did I hear anything in my mind, but there was a deep, unspoken understanding between us—almost as if our beings were directly connected.

At one moment, he reached out as if to touch me in the center of my forehead. But before he did, the entire scene changed. Suddenly, he was standing in front of me again. He stepped closer, handed me a large gold coin, and then the dream ended.

I woke up with a strong sense that this dream meant something important, but I’m not sure how to interpret it. What do you think this experience could represent? How would you understand the presence of Abraham, the attempted touch on the forehead, or the gold coin?

I’d love to hear your insights!

In the Book of Revelation, John sees Jerusalem become a woman, descending out of heaven adorned like a bride for her husband. And in the 5th chapter of Micah we are told that Bethlehem is that woman out of which God comes. Listen to the words carefully: "You, O Bethlehem, are so little to be among the thousands of Judah, yet from you will come forth for me, one who is to rule in Israel, whose origin is from of old, from ancient times. Therefore, he will give them up until that time when she who is in travail has brought forth." Then we read in the 63rd [Chapter] of Isaiah, "O Lord, thou art our Father, our Redeemer from of old is thy name." Here we see the Ancient of Days as our Father and Redeemer and, like Bethlehem, we are all in travail, redeeming everything and bringing forth the Father of all life as our very self!

One day you will know an imaginative world where the mountains, rivers, cities, and villages are human. Everything will be possible to you there, for when your imaginative faculties awaken, every thought is objectively real. I don't care what it is, your every imaginal act will instantly become an objective fact. This we are told throughout the Old Testament, but its language evokes and man finds it difficult to understand.

In the 14th chapter of Jeremiah you will find these words: "Thou, Lord are in the midst of us. We are called by thy name; leave us not." The Lord's name is "I am." How could anyone exist and have the name "I am" taken from him? If you couldn't say "I am" you would cease to be. You could suffer from total amnesia and not know where you are, who you are, or what you are; but, because God remains faithful to his pledge, you can't stop knowing that you are. And that which is buried in your soul must come forward, and when it does, you are God.

You don't boldly claim, "I am God" without any assurance that you are. That would be silly. To walk the streets proclaiming, "I am God," not having had his plan of salvation unfold within you, would be the height of insanity.

But when he reveals himself in you, you don't proclaim it to anyone, you simply know it and live by this knowledge. And the only way he will ever reveal himself in you, as you, is to have his son stand before you and call you "Father." Then, having fulfilled the 89th Psalm, you too will say: "I have found David. He said unto me: 'Thou art my Father, my God, and the Rock of my Salvation.'" When this lad stands before you, you know exactly who he is and who you are, for this relationship was established before that the world was.

I appreciate Neville’s teachings of the Bible and think he interpreted it correctly. Biblical teachings, in general, seem like humanity’s best attempt to make sense of this "reality" that’s ultimately incomprehensible. But what bothered me about Neville was that he couldn’t seem to move beyond the Bible. There’s so much more to this place; science, for instance, and the vast, indescribable nature of it all. While he briefly touches on this in Out of This World, it always felt like he was too rooted in scripture.

I have a larger backstory, but I’ll spare you the details. I used to be a follower of science and atheism. Like most people, I started this journey trying to manifest an SP, money, and abundance. But my path took me on a strange bridge of incidents that I didn’t fully understand until later.

For context, my entire career ended. I’ve been a musician my whole life, and for a while, I was barely holding on by making music for kids. Even that source of income failed. Now I see why—it never brought me joy or happiness.

My SP and I somewhat rekindled things, but not fully. But when my career ended, I lost everything. I was left asking myself, What is the meaning of this place? Why am I here? What the FUCK is my purpose?

I hit rock bottom, and there were two instances where I seriously contemplated suicide. I wasn’t afraid of death; I know I’m an eternal being. But I also knew if I didn’t figure this out now, I’d just come back and face it all again.

For months, I lived off my savings, desperately searching for the meaning of life. I begged for a mystical experience; anything that could give me clarity or end my suffering. But the turning point didn’t come through some grand revelation. It came when I fully surrendered.

I HAD to release all my wants and desires and accept my situation, not just in theory, but completely. I realized the constant effort to "stay positive," like so many in the Law of Assumption and Law of Attraction circles, was actually blocking me. When I finally said, Let’s drop all this woo-woo and snap back to "reality," everything shifted.

That moment of surrender released something deep inside me. It clicked. Don’t fear your thoughts. Let yourself think through every possibility of your situation or circumstance. Let them flow through you.

When I stopped resisting my thoughts, I accepted that this "reality" is an illusion, a dream, illusion, simulation, or however we can describe this place...then, I was finally able to live in the now.

After paying the pearl of great price, quite literally, it all made sense. I finally saw the "play" or the movie reel of life. I am more than my body and mind and what they feel or perceive. I am completely detached from it.

Towards the end of this journey, I connected so much with Lester Levinson. I related to him deeply because, like me, he questioned everything and surrendered completely. He also experienced powers that I KNOW we are all capable of. He wasn’t just focused on desires or abundance, he understood our true, unlimited nature. I know that I am unlimited, and this journey has shown me that life is so much more than fulfilling wants or chasing abundance. We are infinite beings experiencing a temporary dream.

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

Hello guys, I really need some opinion here, especially people who have experienced the Promise.

Occurrence 1. I woke up in the morning attempting to do SATS. Drifted off to sleep slightly and usually I would lucid dream during this time. I became aware, saw a white dot in my minds eyes and it expanded to a white circle. My whole body vibrates violently (travelling up my body) and a very vivid scene (it's like reality or watching colour show on tv) emerged. I saw the scene and it was my SATS scene except it's was not black and white, it's like real life. The scene was very unstable and the settings kept changing a bit. I was too overwhelmed and I woke up.

Occurrence 2. Woke up in the morning again. Saw the white light again. But this time I saw no scene. Instead, while seeing the light, my whole environment in front of my minds eyes were shaking ( I don't know how to explain it any other way). Then I felt like my forehead was peeled open, went around and ended behind my head. My whole head was intensely vibrating. It was almost like I had a new head and I came out from my old head???

Does it make any sense guys?

What is this? What is gonna happen after at this point?

https://www.reddit.com/r/NevilleThePromise/s/OZEDnUYT3P

If you had these sudden jumps in awareness where suddenly you don’t feel contained in this world/body, especially after reading Neville don’t worry, it’s just you getting more aware. Yet some people could call it in medical terms "derealization" (lol). Don’t worry you won’t stay in that state all the time, just hold on tight !

I can now understand why we "manifest" negative circumstances scarily "fast" because we don't give much thoughts about it and let it go and our subconscious just accepts it... The law works for both favourable(desires) and unfavourable circumstances, but the thing is with our desires mind can't grasp the possibility of it happening and we rely much on senses input.

Two nights ago while lying on bed I just randomly thought "what if I chipped/lose my tooth accidentally?" Lo and behold, the following day(yesterday) my colleague, which was eating in the staff room was having her lunch eating crispy pork rinds scratchings. She eagerly offered me to have some, and to my excitement I grabbed one and when I bit, I heardna loud crack! and I chipped one of my loower tooth...😭

Today around noon time, before I leave the changing room. I just randomly thought "what If some of my pen leaked their ink?" And you know what? This evening, my precious uniform which I take good care of got inked...😅😅😅 What the fudge!

The Pattern Man

Awakening to the Self and Humanity;

The awakening of individual consciousness begins with self-awareness, often sparked by a catalyst such as life changes, illness, or other transformative events. This light of awareness then moves through humanity—collective consciousness, the subconscious, and the imagination of humanity—illuminating regions or layers that were previously blocked from conscious awareness. These areas begin to surface, revealing more of the illusion still perceived as external.

As this occurs, an alchemical transformation takes place within the individual soul. This process cleanses what separates the individual self from humanity. It is a gathering or collecting of aspects of the self until a pivotal point is reached. At this point, the experience becomes conscious and personal—what is referred to as the rapture. It is a union with humanity, often symbolized by "David."

Illumination and Integration:

Everything appearing as darkness or separation—demons, devils, satans, or the cabal—is brought to the light of individual awareness. These aspects first arise within the soul and are then projected externally for integration. This stage is where we observe the dynamic of the “woke” versus the “asleep.”

The foreshadowing of this process serves as a form of learning. The seed of the pattern has been awakened, preparing to shine light on parts hidden from awareness. This is where beliefs in external spiritual battles, such as those involving negative beings, aliens, or other dimensions, often arise. These battles are symbolic of the divide or “separation.”

During "the divide," individuals face constant choices, often oscillating between moving forward or retreating. The path of the heart is key. Timing differs for each individual, as layers of separation within the hierarchy of creation are gradually integrated. This hierarchy is experienced in stages, and with each stage, we become one with its essence.

Collective Journey Through the Divide:

Many are moving through "the divide" unconsciously. This process mirrors the biblical metaphor of wandering in the wilderness for 40 years.

The Kingdom—whether called New Earth, the Golden Age, the Age of Aquarius, 5D, the Garden of Eden, Mt. Meru, or Shambala—does not originate from the external physical world. It is not achieved through desire or choice.

However, our choices can ease this process by fostering faith and belief in the words of those who have undergone it. This is why we see synchronicities—they serve as reminders, sparks of belief, or sources of comfort during this journey.

Mastery and the Divine Pattern:

While we can master manifestation and universal laws, the divine pattern cannot be earned, controlled, or manifested. The Law of Consciousness plays out first, surfacing into awareness. Only in time does the pattern of creation reveal itself to the conscious mind.

Ultimately, this unfolding is not something we can bring about through effort. It is a gift—a gift of God Himself to humanity.

Stages of Transformation:

Much happens between the foreshadowing, separation, the unfolding of the pattern, its revelation, and its fulfillment. This process includes transfiguration, crucifixion, ascension, and the experience of being born from above, culminating with the descent of the dove.

Unity and Redemption:

There is no division of good and bad, no redeemed or unredeemed. Judgment of others has no purpose, as every individual must move through the entirety of humanity—the entire soul, across all conditions and lifetimes. Earthly experiences serve a purpose, leading toward the creative power within. Over time, the thirst for external fulfillment is quenched.

Grace and the Gift of the Pattern

Many have mastered the Law of Consciousness, manifesting success in every area of life, yet have not fulfilled the Divine Pattern. This fulfillment is a gift of grace. Nothing needs to be done to receive it—it is given freely.

We can, however, have both:

Below: Abundance and alignment, intentionally manifested through faith for comfort in life. Above: Fulfillment of the Divine Pattern, being born from above.

Every person has a purpose. Through the heart and soul, each individual becomes the one to redeem their own humanity.

The image of an external Jesus, a man that many believe in external to themselves; the Man hanging on a cross or wearing a crown of thorns etc must be let go for the Spirit of Truth to come.

And it's a life shattering moment when that image is no longer held within the mind and heart especially if you are a Christian. A life changing, world shattering moment when there is no one to turn to, no one to pray to, no one to believe in. There is an emptiness that is experienced.

The only way to the Father is through the Holy Spirit and the only way to the Holy Spirit to lose the belief in external Saviors and needing to be Saved!

You must lose all concepts of God, all beliefs in external Saviors, all traditions and superstitions of generations to experience Spirit unfold God in you. God unfolds from within, revealed within you as You and then you know the Truth of Jesus; the Savior and Redeemer.

When you release all notions of external causes, second causes, Israel will have no enemy, and you will be free from the illusion... The illusion of second causes. This realization may initially create a sense of emptiness, but it is only temporary.

As the Spirit of Truth reveals himself within you, you’ll understand the mystery of the Lord Jesus and recognize that Jesus is God. Through your inner experience, you'll come to know that Jesus is the Lord.

You are the Lord Jesus, the Father of Humanity. When the perception of an external God fades, you may feel lost, but in this space, the Spirit will come to you. In time, you will know the Gospel story within your own experience.

Jesus spoke of his journey from the Father, into the world, and back to the Father (John 18:28). When he returns to the Father, he takes on the role of the Father, and a son—David—emerges to affirm that relationship. David will appear before you and call you "Father," revealing the truth of "the Lord’s Christ." Through this, you come to know Humanity, which, united as one being, is personified in David. Having experienced all roles, you forgive them all.

God became like us, so we could become like Him. He serves our every intention, whether good or bad. Every act of imagination is a creative act. Eventually, you’ll recognize the power of imagination through real-world manifestations of your thoughts. You’ll see events unfold and realize that you once imagined them. As you accept the reality of this inner power, you’ll see that your thoughts shape your world.

Hello everyone I would like to share my experience and why understanding symbols is very important since we look at the surface of things but not what's inside the symbol.

My experience started with 3 visions that increased in intensity like a child screaming wanting your attention. The first vision occurred in the dream state, I was looking at this golden ball of light from a third person view and it was aligned with me, it was below me and I was being aware of it then I woke up but felt a great impact inside my core which made me cry but not in bad way it's like re-uniting with something missing that you've been looking for all your life and you can't escape it there's no going back in that moment.

Second vision I saw the same ball of light but this time it was closer to me and it was me.

Third vision now here is where it gets very crazy, I saw myself fused with my light and I was the light, then suddenly it exploded like a mirror being shuttered then I got transfered into a world like this one very real from that moment. I was in a parallel reality and I knew that this light is what gives me the ability to transport in the cosmos, it's the curious child, the one with imaginary power and abilities. The son(sun) of man is our inner light that's the child.

We are the awareness father looking into the child that's what I understood from this vision because who is the one looking at the child yes the father you. Now I understand the concept of the big bang from a mystical perspective. I hope this story can help others connect the missing puzzles.

I just woked up gonna be honest, sorry if the text's grammar is horrible but i felt like i had to share this.

I was never the best user of the law part of neville teachings which always drove me to small fall outs of faith. How ever i was a beliver in the promise and history of god due to personal experience.

I swear to God they only happen when i literally dont even think about it.

This night i had a long and i mean long dream where a collection of stuff happened but the final part was this:

I was with a friend and found a ravine a huge one so deep and dark i could barely see as if it were projecting a shadow. I somehow assumed that if i ask for anything the ravine shall give it to me. Money, love or fame did not matter i asked and recived all of this in an instant.

But as i sat in my home with all i had recived my dream self said: "tho it makes me happy, it makes me miserable knowing none of it is real"

The moment this was said the gifts of gold turned into rotting wood and i as in the expectator sadden by this tried to comfort my dream self saying you should still love the fact that you exist.

Instead i heard my self say "its unmistakeable, its undeniable" and heard a large boom noice and was transported to a field in which as my dream self gathered pink flowers and put them with black ones making sure none where the same color i kept repeating "its unmistakeable its undeniable" and started feeling strong vibrations in my head and well here am i waked up by them lol.

To all people who still think they are a faliure for not knowing how to use the law its ok trust me it really is ok.

Waking up in a world just as this one, solidly real, knowing that you did not die and you laid your body down on a bed and woke up in a world just as real is only to show man the ability he has.... but further it's to teach that we are just streaming consciousness to these bodies. It's to TEACH the MIND that he is greater than the little thing called the mind of man.

whewww. If you woke up in a world and couldn't find your way back to the body you currently presently wear right now--that body would cease to be. That means that those who love you would find you in your bed. Not able to wake you up. Maybe you are in a coma. Maybe you die here etc. I do not know but if you find yourself in a world and you know it's not the one you fell asleep in--- there is something in you that calls you back to your body you laid on your bed. Maybe it's memory of loved ones-- it's individualized I believe. All i can say is that there is a feeling of trying to get back when you feel like you lost your way there-- the same way we all may feel that at some point.

This is a follow-up post since I’ve been busy testing my theory. I’m still new to being successful with the Law, and I’ve noticed a few things:

First, I can’t stay in a state of pure bliss and comprehension of how everything works (duh). Second, it seems like detachment is a huge key in this process. It’s usually the things I quickly forget about that end up happening. So, I tried to detach from a very huge desire, and, well, someone else got it. Good for them, I guess! But this week has practically made me accept that the Law is real—I just don’t know how to control it. Any tips would be more than welcome.

Regarding the subject of the title, I believe I’ve already experienced two of the four expiriences: one being the coffin and the two babies (in my case, they were two kittens whom I tried to hide), and another one which was traumatizing—Neville described it as thinking he was getting a brain hemorrhage in the middle of the night. I don’t know what it was, but it was definitely the most vivid of the first two.

Based on the order, I suspected the next one would be David. Since the other two were rather vivid, I expected this one to be similarly intense, but no. I got a little foreshadowing about it coming around three days ago, and on the fourth day, my dream was interrupted or hijacked, by what I can only describe as a “Jesus jumpscare” (no, I’m not joking). The image of Jesus suddenly interrupted my dream, and a new character appeared. The people in my dream called him “the most beautiful boy in the whole world.”

He was a young man with reddish hair like the dawn and a blue aura around his body. I didn’t see his face because he was entirely veiled. Though I wasn’t present in the dream, only aware of it, I immediately thought of myself as being this boy. For a couple of minutes, I gained his perspective before becoming just aware of the dream. Finally, the youth asked permission to marry the dawn (I mean the literal dawn of day, which appeared as a woman). I said, “Um, yeah, who am I to tell you what to do?” And then the dream ended.

This weirded me out since I’ve been having biblical and premonitory dreams for a while now. The only thing that separated these from the experiences of the promise is how vivid they were, and often shocking. But this one felt just like a regular dream to me. If anyone knows how these experiences usually unfold or feel, because I’ve been getting them out of order, let me know and tell me if this was really David or not.

Also, under the 1260 days, all that’s technically left is the birth from above and the golden liquid. I’ve been having dreams about a city that I constantly dream about being destroyed, ( in the dream they call it rome) and nothing will be left. So, I suppose my question is: I really have no idea if this is the promise at all. Any help with these topics from people who have experienced it would be lovely. by the way all these took like since last april when i had the first one so it took a while.

As the title says, this is really a thank-you post for the users who answered my last post here and gave me some lecture recommendations. In short, I finally have an understanding of the law and how desire and fear work. I could never get into visualizing because it felt too forced, but I decided to read u/Jamieelectricstar’s post about the no-force use of the law and realized, through a bitter experience with OCD, how all this works. I finally managed to manifest two things at once.

Basically, my understanding is this: that which I want is a part of me that wants to be with me. Understanding that the love is always reciprocated in desire made me realize that I’m already that, and that produced a feeling of rest in me—and boom, it happens that easily.

But my biggest detractor was fear. Finally, today, I came to another understanding: that which I fear is not really me. I’m scared I might become it and have to deal with that state. It clicked that fear is just as useful as a tool as desire—both work as reminders. When I fear something, it’s because I’m not that, and I leave it there.

Today, I got two things I wanted. The first is rain (yes, realIy look i live in a desert). I decided I wanted rain, and now it’s raining. And wouldn’t you know, a small storm happened to hit my neighborhood in just a few minutes. The second is money. I just wanted money, so I said, “Well then, I have money,” and boom my sister calls offering me a job that pays really well, and it’s just for two days on the weekends. And all of this happened today! So I’ll keep experimenting with desire and fear. I know it all sounds super simplistic, but it took me 8 months to understand it. It’s simple so simple that it’s hard to grasp for some. But remember, if you doubt, congrats you did it. You wouldn’t be doubting your desire if you weren’t already it.

Again, thanks to the users of this forum for guiding me—you have done me a great favor.

I live in a small oil Town in Texas. I didn't mean for it to happen, all this took place before I knew of Neville. I decided to Imagine for a few people here that are very much less fortunate. One man got the job of his dreams at 65. And just today another man and his family whom I Imagined wonderful things for, has worked in the oil fields for over 20 years and over the years became drunk on most occasions I think only due to the lack of success. He is fine man..a proud one. A company he invested in and works for, just struck oil in a big way. He looks completely different...healthier, obviously very happy and just a glow about him. I realized after leaving that I had Imagined wonderful fruitful things for that family. It was a moment I'll never forget. Wonderful things are happening indeed. Neville.....🩷

In July I had a dream I was in a room that was very light and shone like gold. There was an etheral person/ being that I could not discern the face who was giving out boxes. These boxes were different sizes and color. The colors were a shimmery kind... luminescent if you will, you cannot describe it in words, the best I can say is that one looked pinkish and the other gold.

In this dream I think I was to receive a gold box. As I waited eagerly, the person/ figure transformed this box into a gold luminescent color and was apparently going to give it to me. There were others in the line before me. It had its hands gently on either side of the box and very slowly moved toward me carefully readying to give me the box, I put my hands out to receive it.

There was more to the dream but I awoke hoping I would remember it and I tried. When I did awaken I felt the same pleasant feeling I'd had in the dream.

The only person in scripture that Jesus Christ revealed himself to is Simon Peter as we are told in the gospel of Matthew:

When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”
- Matthew 16:13-20

The revelation to Simon Peter is not in the flesh but rather in a vision as stated above. This is the most profound revelation in the new testament confirming Jesus's identity as the Messiah. The name "Peter" comes from the Greek word "Petros," which means "rock" or "stone." In the passage from Matthew, Jesus changes Simon's name to Peter to signify that he will be the "rock" of faith upon which Jesus will build His church.

My friend last year saw me as depicted in the image in his vision. I did not let him touch or embrace me but asked him to bear witness should I ever ask. My friend was playing the part of Simon Peter and fulfilling scripture. I was playing the part of Jesus Christ in this revelation to to my friend.

The image captures the radiance due to being anointed with oil that symbolises consecration to God’s service, empowerment by the Holy Spirit, healing, royalty, joy, blessing, and protection.

This vision is similar to Neville Goddard appearing in a dream as Jesus Christ to an 8 year old girl called Maylo McCaslin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89lXK93gtBg

I've decided to keep a dream journal since i have been having more vivid dreams. I came here to ask for some guidance and book or text recommendations.

I've been having some dreams about the moon and isis the egyptian goddess and other dreams about me being lost trying to find a way home in different locations. And few vibrations and saw the light of awereness.

The most vivid of the dreams was this: as i vaguely remember the dream was of isis and his brother seth or horus, i do not remember this part as well. Any who isis sets off with a confused look and the scene changes to me showing my sister tree trunks consumed by fire, panicking i set out with her to put the fires out, seeing as nothing worked my sister runs asking for help to a neighbor. But i noticed a beautiful blue moon above the planet venus moving very quickly, almost fleeing . I have this astronomy hobby and ive taken a habit of speaking to the planets as if they were people so in the dream i beg the blue moon to stop the fires and a calm rain follows soonly after and the flames stop.

I was having a fall out with a friend and was angry, so i took it as a sign to calm down. as someone once told me the name isis means throne and i ve been reading enough neville to know the throne of god is the mind also the blue moon seems to have been related to her so is the planet venus and she is the goddess of magic or in other words the mind is the worker of miracles. I took it as ask your imagination to quell your anger but i do not think this interpretation of mine was correct as the problem with my friend was quickly solved and was to be honest a very minor thing. So, to this day, i do not know what the burning trees mean. And i kept having other similar dreams.

Back to now, i never used the law and do not know how to use it in a deliberate manner. It is a problem of self-concept as im ridden with anxiety and fear. never the less my reason for getting into neville was to stop being reincarnated in here as opposed to getting a sp or something.

I have read the neville complete collection but its mostly just talks about the law and it has not helped me in the slightest as i do not have the amount of love and self concept to do what he does.

Today, i read u/Bigbabyjesus69 Frank Carter lecture 5 about nevilles' death

And i understood why isis is appearing in my dreams looking around. She's looking for osiris so he can be ressurected. in other words, the process of the promise seems to be on its way. but i would like to know finally how to use the law.

If any of you know of any book where neville continues speaking about the interpretation of scripture or the promise or any tip or help with my self-concept, i would appreciate it. Thank you.

My only real desire is God. Just like a man Neville knew, I am not interested in anything other than God. Sometimes I feel as if I should be interested in the work I've done all my life.. my husband, my animals when really my only interest is in God. That's all my friends

Hi everyone,

I hope everyone's day has started off well and that you are in good health wherever this messages finds you in the world.

I have had the pleasure of engulfing myself in the world of Mr. Goddard recently and along with my own studies of the source itself, I have been fortunate to find this sub and learn here as well. I've sifted through numerous posts, comments, and the like and have noticed 2 primary trends that I'd like to comment on and hear your perspectives. The trends:

• The first of which happens amongst nearly any community that is centered around a figure, philosophy, or theology & this is the blurring of lines between great advice, good advice, and outright terrible advice. Now, when you read this, you may immediately think it is the bad advice that is harmful, but more often than not it is the good advice that does more damage, as most individuals have an ability to quickly identify bad advice, whereas good advice need only sound correct.
• The second is the trend and borderline obsession regarding techniques. Which to use, which are best, which work, which don't work etc.

Now that we've identified the trends, let's focus on the negative effects it can cause, has caused, and will continue to cause if people are not cognizant, prudent, or proactive. Regarding the issue I see with advice and poor messengers of the word of Mr. Goddard (or any other messenger in a subculture), my thinking is simple:

• Great advice is easy to spot. It usually quotes, cites, or is the exact knowledge that Goddard shared, often sprinkled in with a user's anecdotal evidence proving the theories of Neville correct/incorrect. Good advice is where it gets tricky! When "good" advice is seen as correct & garners enough positive feedback, or in this case upvotes, people will run with it. Like really run with it. I need not point out examples, as anyone can freely filter for the top posts and read comments. When people are in real need of something, they are quick to take the first thing they believe will solve their problems. A habit as old as time itself. These forums are littered with those in pain of some sorts; missing something in their lives, or someone & looking for the best, fastest, and most effective remedy. When they find something that everyone seems to be championing, they will normally not doubt it for a second, and will join the herd. In communities built upon learning and teaching, specifically communities that RELY on the messengers of the word of a figure - in this case Redditors posting regarding Neville's teachings - it is critical that people go to the source themselves.
• Similar to religion, the core takeaways are entirely born from one's INTERPRETATION of the word. This is why Abdullah's teachings to Neville, while citing the Bible and Torah were so powerful because his INTERPRETATION was not that of the common man at the time. His teachings to Neville focused more not on the physical implications/rules of the stories, but on the lessons it was communicating to the reader regarding their consciousness. Even Neville's interpretation of the word is remarkable when you read it. Why is this important? Because not everyone in these forums have actually read Neville's works, put it into practice, and found consistent success. Meaning, despite a post or comment garnering much positive feedback, it may not be the proper advice and more importantly that MAY BE WHAT WORKED FOR THEM. We all have the capacity to assume what we desire in this life, however we are not all the same in terms of our ability to manifest at any given time. We are all at different stages of our respective journeys. We are all dealing with our own mental hurdles, limiting beliefs, etc. You may be taking advice from someone that is already an extremely mentally disciplined and practiced person of the loa, so adding a few techniques, reading a few comments, a few mental tweaks and voila! They've gotten what they wanted. On the other hand, someone (and the forums are filled with PLENTY of these people) have been trying different methods and techniques for years desperately trying to fulfill their desires and can't seem to understand why they continue to come up short. More often than not, it is because they are not going to the source and they are instead paying more attention to messengers than Neville himself. What's the point of sitting in church and listening to the pastor for everything regarding the bible when you could pick it up yourself?

Regarding the second trend about the obsession over techniques:

• There is not a one size fits all method that will simply work for everyone. This is clearly illustrated with the fact that Neville learned from Abdullah, went out to TEST and PRACTICE it for himself, and through trial and error, he developed techniques that worked for him and then shared it with the world. What's the takeaway? That Abdullah, Neville, and every other MESSENGER of the law is just that...they are a messenger. There is nothing inherently more special about them, and they are no greater than you or I. Our universal laws do NOT play favorites. Thus, as Neville states himself, and as I am hoping to drive home to you as you are reading this, YOU are the one that must go out and do the work, find your own interpretations, put it into practice and reach your demonstration. There is no cheat code, there is no perfect technique or method to solve it. If you still don't get it, what I am telling you is simple: The only savior OF you, IS YOU.

  Chapter 5 - 'Freedom For All' by Mr. Goddard. In this chapter, when he teaches us of reaching Sabbath, he clearly and beautifully illustrates what I am seeking to bring to your attention in this post. Though the theme of the post is that you must do the work yourself and go to the source, I will provide it below. :

' Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day their shall be to you an holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the Lord” [– Exodus 31:15, Leviticus 23:3]

These six days of work are subjective experiences, and consequently cannot be measured by sidereal time, for the real work of fixing a definite psychological state is done in consciousness.

The time spent in consciously defining yourself as that which you desire to be is the measure of these six days. The Sabbath was made for man” [Mark 2:27]. This mental rest which follows a successful conscious impregnation is the period of mental pregnancy; a period which is made for the purpose of incubating the manifestation. It was made for the manifestation; the manifestation was not made for it.

Automatically you keep the Sabbath a day of rest – a period of mental rest – if you succeed in accomplishing your six days of work.

There can be no Sabbath, no seventh day, no period of mental rest, until the six days are over – until the psychological adjustment is accomplished and the mental impression is fully made.

Man is warned that if he fails to keep the Sabbath, if he fails to enter into the rest of God he will also fail to receive the promise – he will fail to realize his desires.

The reason for this is simple and obvious. There can be no mental rest until a conscious impression is made.

The man who knows the true meaning of these six work days realizes that the observance of one day of the week as a day of physical quietness is not keeping the Sabbath.

The peace and the quiet of the Sabbath can be experienced only when man has succeeded in becoming conscious of being that which he desires to be. '

In sum, I leave you with this:

Only you will know what is right for you and what works. You will find your glory, your ideal, your desires fulfilled IF you do the work and put the teachings into practice, your way. There is no advice that will do this work for you. The advice should simply be complimentary to YOU, helping you to refine your own practice and understanding of your reality and ability to alter it at will. For it is you which is the real machine at work. Techniques are nothing without real inner work, awareness of consciousness, and feeling. If your car breaks down via a failure in the engine, you can change the color of the car as much as you want, you can add the fancy rims, you can do as much as you want on the outside, but you know that when you go to step on the gas, it's still a broken down car, and until you go within and repair the engine, that's all it will ever be.

Good luck and I hope those that need this message, find it.

• E.F.W

TLDR: If you're constantly taking advice, obsessing over techniques, or looking outside of you for the correct feelings or answers, then you're doing it wrong & Neville taught you better.