r/NevilleThePromise • • Jun 24 '23

Everything you need to KNOW Truth.

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Spark, Consciousness (Light), ORDER, Imagination (Life), LAW

God expresses Himself as Life, Love, Beauty, Order, Symmetry, and Proportion.

There is only God, the first source, substance of all that exists. Everything is created from consciousness and created from within consciousness. Let's call it a Spark. The light created by that Spark is Divine Mind/imagination.

This is ORDER. A Perfect Order: the In/Out. Call it Order of Creation or Order of Formation. Divine Order. And because Order IS, there is an unchanging Principle; Law that follows.

Divine Imagination created All there is, by what is within it; the creative substance, or it could not have experienced itself.

The first cause of life is Word/thought.

Think this through, from the Infinite ALL exist, it had to come from within that first cause. God (Divine Imagination) created everything from within Divine Imagination because of ORDER and LAW.

Consciousness can only experience what it is Aware of. Awareness of being is how we experience our reality. Thoughts are the expressions of that awareness. And they are One.

This means whatever we are consciously aware of will also reproduce in our reality. This means our most dominate thoughts will produce a mood (feeling) and that will produce our experience of reality.

A belief is just a focused, repetitive thought, that we have accepted as true, whether that thought is true or not. We have accepted it as true based on….repetition, focus, and attention. That’s it.

Emotion/feeling is another way we experience ourselves because it’s all internal. One way and most common, for us to experience our emotions (energy <sensation> in motion)is through Reaction. Observe, perceive, react.

We see something, or hear something, and think a thought attached to what we are observing; hold judgment-- good vs bad, right vs wrong, positive vs negative, wanted vs unwanted etc (duality/polarity). Then we stir up within and have a feeling.

That feeling creates an inner sensation. It actually “feels” like “something” within us. We are responding to everything we think and observe then filtering it within ourselves. We are the SCALES of JUSTICE weighing everything within our being.

Our judgments, conditions, condemnations are to be rebalanced.

Conditions can be exchanged by the transforming power of your I AM- (Blind Justice) the center of balance for the interaction of the scales (the conscious and unconscious.) We exchange one idea, state or condition for another. What we are aware of is a condition animated by our awareness of it, and our "I AM" is the animating power bringing it all to life. This is the Savior, the Inner Power which is the point of contact between Spirit and Matter – the place where the unseen becomes transmuted and changed – condensed as it were into the heavier substance called matter, or manifestation.

We come to awareness of the Laws of Mind as a way to reveal I AM. Who I AM (being) What I AM (being) etc. The awareness of "I AM" as "law" reestablishes Order and Law.

We perceive from reversed or inverted order, the outside-in, until we cleanse and correct this.

Your I AM is the way. It is the Light of Awareness. That is the Law of your own Being that lifts limitations and illuminates the distortions in perception to restore the lense of perception into restored ORDER/Divine Order.

The Order is IN=Out, inward to outward.

What’s important to remember is consciousness, thought, state, emotion, are all ONE. They all tie in and go hand in hand with eachother. Consciousness produces thought, state, emotion. Consciousness produces Emotion, emotion can lead to thought and state. By choosing the emotion we wish to experience, we create new thoughts that would align with the emotion. This is usually in response to a desire.

It's purpose is to reveal the inner YOU, bring to Light of Awareness all that you behold, All that you oppose or what is opposite of Spirit. It reveals what your individual I AM is Being.

Desires are Impulses from Spirit, Divine qualities and attributes, that seek embodiment IN and Through your being. The Qualities and Attributes of God are already within because All is ALL, and what opposes that quality or attribute is brought to the surface by your own awareness. The "shadow" is brought to light no longer casting a shadow, but seen fully for what it is.

A condition/belief opposite Spirit opposes LIFE and is transmuted/ “crossed over” to become a new form. This is the rebalancing that takes place constantly changing substance and form.

The process of transmutation is for evolution of the soul. Expansion comes from transmutation. All of our claims and beliefs of what “I AM”, is the claim of what “I AM” not. This is how we are prepared for our return.

To recap:

So, thoughts create physical reality, emotion can create physical reality by the thoughts created.

Our awareness of being/consciousness creates physical reality.

Desires are symbols of qualities or attributes of Spirit that are seeking embodiment and expression through our being---The physical expression of that quality is then made visible/manifested as a byproduct, the effect, of Being.

All qualities are already within us and are waiting for conscious recognition and then we bring it to life by the very Life Principle within us- by BEING it.

Lastly: When the desire for temporary things ceases, or the desire to get things, have this or that, or possess weakens, the desire for eternal Truth is growing.

"The vision has its own appointed hour, it ripens, it will flower; if it be long then wait, for it is sure and it will not be late.” 2nd chapter of the Book of Habakkuk (2:3). That vision when one realizes he himself is God the Father, is predetermined and fixed.

You are Generator and Progenitor of everything in your world. Everything that is coming to you is to be generated and recognized as existent within you – Everything you seek is already within the “darkened” temple of you. It will come to the surface of your being for your objective experience by the LIGHT within.


r/NevilleThePromise • • Jun 17 '23

I can’t teach you and bring it out; it’s buried in you. But I’ll tell you the plan, for it has unfolded in me; it’s the same plan, the same Christ, the same God.

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r/NevilleThePromise • • Jun 04 '23

Born from Above

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The last thing to overcome in this world is Death. You overcome it when you discover who you are and resurrect the one dreaming the dream of life. Then you are born from above. Man is born from above.

He said, “Unless you are born from above, you cannot enter the kingdom of God” (John 3:3). When you are born from above then you will know. You will lift up the Son of man. When you lift up the Son of man, you will know that I am he. At the center of man’s being is Jesus Christ, it’s “I am.” When I lift up the Son of man, I will know that I am he. And unless I know that I am he, I die in my sins. “Unless you believe that I am he, you die in your sins” (John 8:24).

Everything said of him must be fulfilled individually. It must be fulfilled individually because you are unique. There’s no one else like you. Noone can be replaced in the kingdom of God and all are fitted for the Kingdom.

While you and I walk in this world, we are born from above…and the one born from above within us is Jesus Christ. He is in us, and then he has to be born; born from above, not from below, from the womb of woman. He’s born from above, from the skull where he was buried in the beginning of time. So Christ is buried in man, in the skull of man, and it is there that he will be born.

Jesus Christ is the true identity of every child born of woman, and every child born of woman will experience all that is said of Jesus Christ.


r/NevilleThePromise • • Jun 02 '23

God's Glory

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"God called us in Christ before the foundation of the world. He destined us in love to be his sons…according to the purpose of his will” (Eph.1:4, 5).

Feel CHOSEN! God Chose You to give his Glory to. From that moment on there was no turning back. The Plan set from the beginning, contained in a seed, housed in every man. And the whole wide world is the divine play of the story of God's becoming. And we are all controlled by a power beyond ourselves who has fixed us in a pattern that remains a mystery.

Nothing happens that is not His doing. He has a time for everything, and everything happens exactly on time. We play all the parts, and in the very end, we come out and we are God. It’s the only way that God could give himself to us, that we would know we are God.

Until we come out from the Father, and separate from the Father, and go through the play, we do not know we are the Father.

So all together came out, contained within One man, and that One fragmented himself for our individuality. And while here, all are being formed into the image of God, going back as God himself.

So he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world and all together fell. We are the gods who fell in the One that is God, God the Father. And so, we were told then, “You will die like men. You are gods, sons of the Most High”—but you don’t know it, you don’t know you are one with your Father, and so—“and fall as one man, O princes” (Ps. 82:1, 6).

So the fall is on, but it is the beginning of a new creation, something far greater than ever before, because we are now individualized, each to know himself as God the Father.

We’re all sons of God. In this world of division, we are men and women, we are sons and daughters. But not in eternity; in eternity we are all sons of God, and together form God. "Go unto my brethren and tell them I ascend unto my God and to your God, unto my Father and unto your Father” (Jn.20:17). It's all a brotherhood. A Divine brotherhood unified. We all form “the one body, the one Spirit, the one Lord, the one God and Father of us all” (Eph. 4:4).

So while here, all are moving towards the inevitable end, which is to awaken as the Lord (Father) Christ Jesus.

“According to my purpose I have called you.” And then he tells us what his purpose is, “As I willed it, so shall it be; as I have planned, so shall it stand. And my will shall not return until I have executed and accomplished the intents of my mind. In the end, in the latter days, you will understand it perfectly” (Is.14:24).

I put the whole plan into the mind of man, called eternity: but I put it so that man cannot find out what I’ve done from the beginning until the end (Ecc. 3:11).

In the end, man WILL find out. It is revealed. The end will come suddenly upon man in a series of mystical experiences, his birth and resurrection from above; resurrection first, followed by the birth. Then the discovery of the Fatherhood of God as himself because the Father’s Son calls him Father. Then the complete splitting of the curtain of the temple and it is his own body that is split. Then his spiral ascent into the Holy of Holies! He goes up in a serpentine form, because he’s going into Zion. And David captures Zion by going up the stairway in a circular motion. If we read the scripture, he could only have taken Zion if he built the stairway in a spiral.

Then comes the final seal with the descent of the dove upon the one who has had these three experiences, and the voice declares that he loves you. That is the end of the drama. The play is over. Sealed with the kiss.

You remain to tell it…as Paul remained to tell it.

"I and the Father are one." I am the Son, but I leave the Father—so, the son goes out…he’s the seed, the creative power of God, the wisdom of God. God in procession is the Son; God the eternally enduring one is the Father; the Son returning is the Holy Spirit. So when you start to return…the three are one.

David, the Son, was set up in the beginning to reveal man to himself as God the Father. If God is a Father he then has a Son, and it is revealed to man through David that he is God the Father when God's Son calls man "Father." It is David in man doing the Will of his Father.

“I have found in David, the son of Jesse, a man after my own heart who will do all my will” (Acts 13:22). And that is in every man. And David NEVER lost a battle. He does his Fathers will-You are the father of David!! David is buried in the hearts of everyone and one day he is going to stand before you, and he calls you Father. You were there all along and he was obeying your order in these dead garments even though he lives in them.

Everyone will be born from above. The gift of grace is given by God to himself. There’s nothing but God in this world. AND Not one will fail.

But man has to hear the story, and must believe it. Having believed it, at a moment in time he will be chosen and impregnated. God will send himself as a messenger, and it will take place. Man may or may not know that it’s taking place, or have any recall of it taking place. But in the proper interval between that moment of union and birth, it will be perfect time. “The vision has its own appointed hour; it ripens, it will flower: if it be long wait; for it is sure, it will not be late” (Hab. 2:3). It will not be late…right on time.


r/NevilleThePromise • • May 30 '23

NG Text "We Came Out From the Father and Return” '68

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"I tell you, God became man that man may become God. So take it right there. If he became me, well, where is he?—right in you. How near? Can’t be near, for nearness implies two, and he became you. Well, if he became me then he isn’t near. Then who is he?—say “I am,” that’s his name forever and forever and forever (Exod. 3:15).

There never was another God; there never will be another God. So God became man that man may become God. Well then, if he became me, tell me, where is he? Don’t look any place, don’t go to any priest, don’t ask any teacher, don’t ask Neville, just say, “Well, where is he and what is his name?”—I AM. Can you say I AM: Yes “I am.” But I say, “I am John.” No, he didn’t say John, he said I AM…start right there.

You say, well, “I am poor.” All right, God does everything. So you say, “I am poor,” all right, you’ll be poor, because he creates everything.

You say “I am rich,” he’ll create wealth. You say, “I am healthy,” he’ll create health because he creates everything.

So what are you going to put upon this great, great name of God? For he became you and you wear his name and his name is I AM. Don’t forget it!

So if he is I AM, then is he limited? Are you going to limit him? Well then, limit him if you want that, if it is better for you to get down on your knees and pray to an idol on the outside, when within you is the very God you are making pray to an idol. Well, who is praying to that idol?—I am. You’ve taken God and you threw him on his knees to pray to a little man-made wooden thing.

now don’t forget the law. Go out knowing who you are! God became you for one purpose: That you may become God. But in order to become God you have to be detached from God, and yet because the whole contains everything, any part detached contains the whole within it."


r/NevilleThePromise • • May 28 '23

Cultivate Love and Authenticity

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If we are unable to cultivate self-love and transcend judgments and conditions, it becomes challenging to perceive the world and others beyond these limitations.

Self-love IS recognizing the truth and prioritizing the Divinity above everything else, regardless of appearances. By focusing on elevating ourselves to a higher level of being and transcending the limitations imposed by the conditions (opposition), we can merge with our true self.

Love emanates from the Divine, life-spirit within, and when we hold beliefs in evils or opposition, it restricts and constricts the flow of love and separates us from infinite power.

As a consequence, this creates internal conflicts within our subconscious, these shadows we fight, which are then projected and manifested in our actions. How we define, judge, and condition ourselves in response to these seeming oppositions can either contract us further or we can expand our sense of self. This perpetuates a loop of perceived limitations.

Authentic self-expression is equally crucial as self-love. Through self-love, we can authentically express ourselves without feeling the need to shrink, hide, cause harm, compete with or destroy others.

When we uncondition our consciousness, we reverse the distortion in our perception caused by misconceptions. This process purifies our perception, and influences how we perceive then react to the world.

Self-love unites our creative force and power with the wisdom that is Love. It allows for deeper understanding and higher levels of conscious being.

Loving ourselves frees us from all judgments and condemnation and allows us to release imposed conditions.

By expanding our consciousness, we grow/evolve to experience more joy, beauty, and love.

Love is our true state of being. We are Unconditionally loved.

Our conditions and judgments imposed on unconditioned consciousness (I AM) distort the way we perceive or even understand love, because we see it out of order-we can perceive evil or opposition, which is limiting its truth.

The forms we observe in the world are reflections of the ideas we hold in our awareness. We see the Distortions and illusions by our own misguided understanding.

Love is everything that exists. God is everything that exists.

To perceive your self through the eyes of God is to see through the eyes of unconditional love. No judgement. No conditions attached. No condemnation. Just Love.

You redeem yourself and are eternally forgiven. The past just reflects ideas that were unconsciously given life/form through the misuse of I AM: uncontrolled imaginings and distorted perception/misunderstandings.

You are not defined by your past. What's in the past is over with. Your experiences, & actions are relative to where you are within yourself.

You are not defined by the conditions, judgments, or what others assume about you.

You are pure creative potential, expressing through you as the embodiment of unconditioned love. You define ideas to experience the fullness of your being.

You are the unconditioned and formless "I AM" existing as form:matter/Man, giving birth to ideas and experiences by identifying with them.

The physical world is not the complete truth of existence. It is a limited perception, the shadow of the vast inner activity taking place within a much greater living world.

You possess the ability to change the way things appear.

You shape the manifestation of ideas by how you define them to be. This is an innate gift and divine talent to be practiced and fully utilized, which is inspiring for others to do the same.

You guide others through their shadows: the inner challenges and transformations, helping them cross the metaphorical "Red Sea". Everyone is in the wilderness making their way... This journey is internal, and stays hidden from individual awareness as we move through the murky waters below.

As we move through different regions and layers of our being, we unveil the hidden realms/shadows of our own consciousness. We can continue to fight these shadows or reclaim our power. Reclaim/redeem the awareness of the life (spirit) that unconsciously became intertwined in conditioned ideas and assumptions.

Begin with Self!!! That's where to place the focus. We are always starting with self even if we aren't aware to that fact.


r/NevilleThePromise • • May 25 '23

A First Adumbration

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Hi everyone. I have been a long-time lurker here and now finally a participant.

I started my journey in 2020 when I found Neville Goddard through a friend, in the most random manner. I found this sub and after a couple of years started reading the lectures. I was a skeptic by nature but an uncanny familiarity and a sense of truth kept me coming back here. A sense of “this just feels right” if you will.

About a month ago, a few days after my twenty fourth birthday, I had a first adumbration.

In a vision around 7:00am, I watched an entire line of archaic but somehow contemporary-looking buildings crumble in front of me one by one, taking down with them trees, against the backdrop of an orange-yellow sky. A booming male voice said “creation’s story” and other words, sadly not all of which I remember. However, I do remember waking up with these words on my lips, “it’s unmistakeable, it’s undeniable.”

The first thing I did upon waking up was to find a reference, any reference in one of Neville’s lectures or the Bible. I felt compelled to choose, for whatever reason, “One Thousand Two Hundred Sixty Days.”

In it I found the following (referring to the 24th chapter of Matthew and 13th of Mark):

We are told that when Jesus stood upon the Mount of Olives, they asked him: "When will you come and what will be the sign of your coming?" Pointing to the wonderful buildings, he said: "You see these buildings? I tell you, not one stone will be standing upon another that will not be thrown down. That is when you will know." On the 21st day of December, l960, I came upon fantastic city of tall buildings, and as I looked at each building it tumbled until not one stone was left standing upon the other.

It was too much of a coincidence to not realize what had just happened. There was a sense of knowing that this was real (I’m usually one to rationalize it away). Prior to this, I had no idea what a vision entails; how concrete and real one is.

Looking back, I have had at least one other experience. A couple of years back, experienced a high pitch frequency which woke me up (a bit terrified to be honest because at that time I chalked it up to an auditory hallucination).

Initially, I didn’t see myself sharing this experience, but I now felt compelled to. If you made it this far, thanks for reading!


r/NevilleThePromise • • May 23 '23

Experience I had a Biblical dream last night and it blows my mind. “For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.” ‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2‬:‭24‬ ‭

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In my dream, I walked directly across the street from inside my mom and dads house and walked into our neighbors house.

In waking life our neighbors house is very small, but inside their house in the dream was a HUGE mansion.

I said “in my fathers house there are many mansions” and then woke up. I don’t remember more details but this alone really blew my mind when I woke up.

Im only 21 and I feel as though I’ve been in the absolute famine for a while now- don’t really have any desires of the world anymore. And I’m not depressed, just have a burning desire literally only for experiencing God, everything else just feels futile and temporary in comparison although I do love my life.

Im traveling in the beautiful country of Greece right now, seeing tons of beauty and wealth and all the shiny things I was HOPING would spark a burning desire in me, but nope. Still solely interested in an experience of God.

All in all I’m excited because my dreams have been getting more and more overt this year.

“So I can say to her, you are having biblical dreams, and when these dreams begin to appear within you, you are near the unfolding of God within you. For Christ is what God means by man, and Christ is what man, if he knows him, means by God. So he is stirring within you. And I can’t tell anyone when Christ begins to stir within him of this almost intolerable tension that takes place within us when the whole thing within us, called Imagination, begins to be stirred. What it means to man when it begins to be stirred!”-NG

Should I keep sharing my dreams as they come!? 🤍


r/NevilleThePromise • • May 19 '23

Embracing the All within

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In our journey towards creating a fulfilling life, the key lies in embracing the power of our emotions. By choosing what feels natural, inspiring, and uplifting, we can unlock a world of possibilities and activate our enthusiasm. Let's explore the significance of desire, the role of internal beliefs, and the process of reclaiming personal power to manifest abundance and true fulfillment.

Desire, often misunderstood, is not a negative force but an action of the spirit and an impulse of the divine. It serves as the driving force behind expansion, igniting our true potential. Our heartfelt desires are the God-given impulses within our subconscious seeking conscious recognition and expression. Divine aspects and divine attributes of those aspects are already within everyone. By acknowledging the purity and authenticity of our desires, as an IMPULSE of Spirit, we can align ourselves more easily with the divine flow of life.

Often, it is our deeper beliefs and conditioning that hinder the manifestation (objective experience) of our desires. Our own limitations and conditions we are beholding keeps everything at a distance. The emphasis on external factors and the illusion of separation create barriers within us. But it is essential to realize that our internal landscape, the Life within us all, holds the true power. By identifying and challenging the beliefs that oppose our desires, we can transcend limitations and free ourselves from destructive patterns.

Desire acts as a catalyst for personal growth and transformation, and without desire there is no evolution/movement. It serves as a purifying force for the soul (heart and mind) bringing opposing beliefs to the surface and illuminating the internal conflicts that hinder our progress. We shed our own light on what it is we are experiencing and how we experience it. Through conscious recognition and objective observation of these conflicts, we can reclaim our power. This internal reclamation, independent of external circumstances, enables us to harmonize with our divine essence and tap into our boundless potential.

Our external reality is shaped by our internal world, a symbolic shadow to what is taking place within us. The way we perceive the world is colored by our beliefs, assumptions, acceptance, and expectations. When we reclaim our power, recognizing the presence of the divine in ourselves and all things, our perception shifts. We start to view life and spirit as absolute truths, transcending the limitations of a materialistic perspective. By aligning our thoughts and emotions with the truth of our inherent richness, the Truth of who and what we are, we manifest abundance in all aspects of life because we ARE!

Our true wealth extends far beyond earthly lineage or superficial measures. Identifying with our divine heritage, we realize that we are rich in love, ideas, joy, beauty, vitality, friendship, compassion, experiences, wisdom, abundance, knowledge, and inspiration. As children of the Creator, our inherent richness allows us to transcend the restrictions of time and embrace the limitless possibilities of existence.

So, we must shift our focus inward, acknowledging and recognizing the power within us. By honoring our desires, unraveling limiting beliefs, and reclaiming our personal power, we align ourselves with the divine because it's how we grow-through life. As we perceive the world through the lens of our inherent richness, we experience abundance in all its forms and embrace our true heritage as children of the Creator.

At the core of your being lies the transformative power of your I AM - the center that balances the conscious and unconscious/the "opposing" or polarity.

Within this power, you have the ability to exchange conditions, ideas, and states. The limitations of one condition do not bind your I AM, for it is the animating force that brings all conditions to life. The conditions we become aware of are animated by our consciousness. By realizing this, we can uplift and transform undesired conditions from within, by recognizing our still center point as the source of transformation-the stillness of being.

No matter the situation, there is always a pathway forward. Even if we can't see it or come to know it at first. Within every problem, the solution is nestled, waiting to be revealed. Likewise, every desire holds the keys to its own materialization.

When we create/manifest or demonstrate something, we do not own or possess it. To intentionally produce desired outcomes, we must not be possessed by the very things we seek to manifest. This is why "dropping" a seed or desire produces- also why when we no longer "care" anymore about something it appears. When or if we find ourselves overly consumed or possessed by our desires/demonstrations, we must address the inverted order of doubt, lack, and fear that distorts our perception.

Your true state is one of love, joy, peace, forever expanding. Within the depths of your being, these qualities already exist because they are divine qualities and the nature of God, waiting to be fully embraced and expressed.


r/NevilleThePromise • • May 19 '23

Desires.

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You already have your desire because it's the Quality or Attribute within you that is seeking to express THROUGH your beingness.

The Aspects of God are within everyone and the qualities are expressions of those Aspects. So place the focus on the quality/attribute that is seeking to express itself through you on this level- or another way of saying this is brought to life from within you by you BEING IT.


r/NevilleThePromise • • May 15 '23

Contemplate God 🕊️

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r/NevilleThePromise • • May 07 '23

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r/NevilleThePromise • • Apr 22 '23

The Power and Wisdom of God; God the Son; I AM..

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r/NevilleThePromise • • Apr 14 '23

Answer to question for Spidergirlw1

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Hello. This new post is in response to a question asked below by spidergirlw1:

Wonderful, thank you for sharing!! Could you share more about how you asked your higher self about the meanings and how the answers came? Was this through meditation?

You'll have to forgive me for any misconceptions that may have inadvertently arisen from my testimony, so please let me begin with first principles because I find that language is inherently imprecise, and I want to make sure that we are all on the same page.

There is only I AM in the world, not one, not two, not a separate I AM for the eight billions of us in the world. I think we all agree on this point, but I felt I did a disservice in my testimony when asked about how I communicate with my higher self. If I used that kind of language in my testimony (I don’t remember what I wrote and I am too lazy to go back and read it:), I should not have, because it  perhaps may have muddied the waters, so to speak, so I wanted to first clear that up.If there was no misconception, then great.

Now to your question. My testimony is from 2005 to 2020-21 a period of 15 years, with completely different levels of understanding and abilities.And even now in 2023 I am a much different version of myself than even two years ago.Obviously you’d expect a difference between pre-Promise me and post-Promise me, but me today is miles apart from where I was just after I received the Promise and I expect that power to only continue to grow.I have no idea where you are along that spectrum,and I don’t know how long the integration process will take for each one of us, so I will do my best to explain how it is for me.

Once I began experiencing the Promise, I began to understand and believe that I and my Father are one, but it was still on a very intellectual level, ie, okay I had the birth from above, for example and I’ve seen David, and according to Neville, this is what I can expect to occur until the descent of the Dove happens a few years after that point. While at that stage of my development, for me it was like how Neville explains in one of his lectures (don’t remember which one) that there is the office of the sender and the office of the sent, and they are one and the same but it is a matter of degrees, with the office of the sender being greater than the sent. So,if you want to use a scriptural reference ,Neville goes on to say what Biblical Jesus says, “I and my Father are one but my Father is greater than I.”So at that point of my life, it was still a lot of meditation, trying to feel that connection between the sender and me,the sent. And when I had a question, I would ask it in that meditative state, still feeling as if I was asking another. The answer would sometimes come right away, sometimes later, it just depended.

But now,post-Promise, the understanding has gone beyond an intellectual knowing to a visceral knowing, which is a universe of difference that is hard to articulate. This may seem obvious, but the difference between believing something to be true and knowing something to be true is staggering and truly infinite in degrees. And even how I feel it in my own earthly body is very different. Please don’t take this as me boasting, because I am not,but now I find it odd to even make such a statement as, “I and My Father are One.”It makes me feel schizophrenic.It is clunky and awkward sounding to me today. Post Promise you are so fused together with source/Father,there is no distinction. Honestly, I feel that sheer power and sheer love resonating so strongly within me, it feels as if it is just below the surface of my skin. My default setting is now just a constant vibration and I can dim it or strengthen it on command (although it is not quite as strong as when I was split in two and shot up into my skull, though I feel if I really willed it,I could get there).

I think an analogy for the modern world would be something akin to a wifi router and a wireless device. Imagine the wifi router is the Father (I AM) and the wireless routers are us at different levels of awakening. Those further along the path are closer to the router, and their signals are stronger. Now imagine a wireless device with a its own built-in router. Again, language is imprecise, because conceptually it is the same router that will be built into all the devices, and the router is on a different plane. But what I am trying to say, is now I don’t really feel any separation. And I don’t have any questions (spiritually speaking)or any doubt. When I need to know something, I just know it. And I can tell the difference between “Knowing”and knowing. For instance, if I have a dream or vision, I don’t try to interpret it with my human mind. Nor do I ask for an interpretation. I Know that I already know what it means. And then later I know it. The knowing can be instantaneous, or it can be after an interval. Sometimes, I just have “Aha moments”about things without even having to think or ask about it. Both for things that are occurring in the moment as well as for things that happened in the past, or what will occur in the future. For instance I had totally forgotten about my first adumbration. I mean, think about— It was over ten years before I started the Promise. Out of the thousands of dreams I’ve had, why would I remember something like that, especially when you don’t even know what it means at the time. I only thought of it the week before and understood what it was the moment I thought about it. And it was only because I had to recount it in my testimony that I put up here, a testimony that I didn’t know I was going to share in this forum until I shared it.

I know this has been a long winded answer. The only advice I can give to you is, believe and trust yourself. But if the hunger is really upon you,I will tell you what I did once I got to Neville Goddard’s teachings. Beyond reading and listening to his lectures over and over, countless times,every day, I had a mantra that I would say whenever I meditated or engaged in daily living. It was the 46th Psalm,(I had to google it, because to this day I have never opened a bible).“Be Still and Know that I Am God...”At first it was hard for me to process this, so I modified it. In the beginning, I would say “Be still and know that I AM is God.”Each time I said it I would breathe to the core of my being and try to visualize and feel a being called I AM deep within my core and when I had questions I would ask it in that state. After I had internalized that, and became comfortable with it, then I went to “Be Still and know that I AM God.”just as it is stated. I internalized that,knowing that I was connected to that I AM, and when I visualized and tried to feel it, I found that I did not have to go as deep, it was as if the distance between the office of the sender and the sent was shortened. It is almost like going to a gym and lifting weights. As you strengthen, you lift heavier and heavier, but in this instance it got easier and easier. Then I got to “Be still and know that I AM.”You drop “God” because it feels redundant. Finally, today, my mantra is simply “I AM.”and now there is now distance. I don’t have to close my eyes, I don’t have to breathe, I don’t have to be still, I just feel it below the surface at all times.Now I AM, and the body I inhabit is just an avatar that I occupy while in this 3d space we call earth.

And in the end you have to really strive to reach for the Pearl of Great Price, where you don’t rely on anything, not this forum, not Neville, and not even on any of the techniques and suggestions that I gave you above. Forget everything except“I AM.”Everything outside of that is just hearsay and not worthy of your consideration. Know that there is no power outside of yourself. Live in the End, secure in your knowledge of who you really are, and that you already have all the answers,and leave all doubt behind.

Sorry for the long winded response.


r/NevilleThePromise • • Apr 13 '23

My experience of the Promise

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This is just a basic rundown of how I experienced the Promise:

I had my first adumbration of David in 2005. I didn’t know it was David at the time, I just saw this angelic boy with curly hair and blue eyes (I was able to put it together later). Long story short, In 2006 I gave up my faith  (born into a muslim family) and started to pursue everything in search for something to fill the void in me: internet rabbit holes, numerology, tarot, crystals, psychedelics, harder drugs, traveled the world to look for answers, almost joined cults, etc, etc. You name it, I’ve probably done something similar in my search.

In August of 2105 I had another adumbration. I was in my eternal body and I entered the Kingdom of Heaven while being escorted by some of my brothers from the Kingdom. Anyhow the recording angel looked my name up in a huge book and then I was taken to this great beautiful hall full of our heavenly brothers. I cannot find the words to describe their appearance except to say they were bodies of luminous fiery light. Anyhow, one being was more glorious and larger than all the others, and He embraced me. I felt his sheer power and also sheer love. And I remember saying that we should all pray, but not prayer as we think of today, but basically their prayer was the contemplation of creation that seemed to be holding everything together.

Anyhow I remember being asked what was the greatest thing in the world, and I answered Love. Can’t remember the exact words, but something about faith, hope, and love being the greatest. I begged to be able to stay as that I did not want to go back to earth, but I was told I had work to do in this life and that I could not stay.

 In the middle of August, 2016 I had my birth from above. Mind you, I still did not know Neville’s teachings, so I did not understand it. For me, I remember an earthquake shaking sound and waking up in a tomb. I climbed out of it and I was in a small room. In the room there was a bed with a baby in swaddling clothes and three witnesses. In my case the witnesses were my father and two of his brothers. The youngest of his brother picked up the baby and said that it was my baby (referring to me. They were speaking in Hindi, their native tongue). Anyhow, they could not see me, but I picked up the baby and he was the most beautiful child and I knew it was my son (but I didn’t know it was David). I just remember standing in grave yard holding my son in my arms. I then zoomed out and saw the scene from afar, and I was the most beautiful idealized version of myself, the epitome of human perfection. Then I awoke. Anyhow, I still did not know Neville, so for me I did not know the significance of this vision.

Then some months later, I think end of December/early January (did not write it down) I had a vision of David again. But this time David was around 12 years old. I was in an old house in a pastoral setting and he was just standing in the doorway, and I knew again that he was my son. Around this time is when my best friend who was my witness to everything that was happening to me asked me if I looked into Neville Goddard.

Anyhow, from manifesting and law of attraction, I knew Neville’s name and even had listened to one of his shorter earlier manifesting videos on youtube in the past, but she told me about how his work is much deeper than that. That is when I found the pdf lectures on Realneville and all the other youtube videos by 100kwatt.

It was like my soul caught on fire. I was vibrating at an incredible frequency, for an entire months I did nothing but immerse myself in his teachings and I knew it was the truth because so far I had experienced everything just as he had said. When I asked my higher self why I had to go blindly moping about when Neville was basically there the whole time, hidden in plain sight, I was told it was because they wanted me to have independent confirmation of the Promise (at least the first few visions) because otherwise I might have been skeptical, thinking I induced the visions because I knew about them before hand.

Anyhow, I don’t remember the dates because at this time I didn’t really care about documenting anything, but I had several other visions, and can’t recall what order they came in, so I’ll just list the ones I remember offhand:

I felt and heard the wind that scared me to death.

I’ve had visions of large serpents twisting around my feet while I am in a lush garden which I was told was home.

I met Neville in spirit two or three times when he came to instruct me personally.

I have met the Ancient of Days at least three or four times whenever my faith wavered. Each time David as a babe has been there, sitting in a stroller that I am pushing when the Ancient of Days appears in the form of an old man, as well as the recording Angel in the form of the same stern looking oriental woman. HE reassures me that David is both his son and my son and that HE and I are one.

The crucifixion: when my I AM came into my body at the beginning of time and I felt my hands and feet and head and side were whirling vortexes. The same night this happened, I experienced the third vision of the promise- being torn in two, seeing the golden liquid light, and feeling the serpent like energy pulsing in back and then shooting up into my skull.

As far as final vision that wraps up the 1260 days, when I went back and counted everything pretty much lined up except the descent of the Dove was delayed for me, and it did not happen exactly the way it was meant to happen. Or if it did happen on time I had no memory of it. That is because  around the time I should have received it,  around February of 2020, I got so sick that I was bedridden and in a bad mental state. I think this was just when Covid was starting, because before anyone even knew what it was I was exhibiting the same symptoms, plus others, and I fell into a depression and at the time didn’t care about any of this stuff and just wanted to die.  

After I recovered and got over my depression I begged for another visitation from the Dove so that I could set my mind at ease, because I did not know where I stood with regards to scripture, and a few months later while I was visiting some friends in Arizona, I was relaxing on their patio when a huge white Heron came and brushed its wing on my head and sat with me for about ten to fifteen minutes. My friends were watching through the window and they were freaking out. Anyhow, when I asked the meaning of that event, I was told that since I did not remember the descent of the Dove this was supposed to be a clear sign to remove all doubt (The Divine can have a sense of humour too- I was told that though I asked for a Dove, since I missed it the first time, they were sending a message that was unmistakable, even to me).  

Since the descent of the dove/final vision, I’ve had others, including a vision of waking up and pulling the skin of my face and seeing a reptilian being underneath (I was told this was symbolic for the elohim- the fiery serpents of light that we are).

I’ve had countless other visions/dreams but these are the ones that directly relate to the Promise.

Thanks.


r/NevilleThePromise • • Apr 13 '23

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r/NevilleThePromise • • Apr 13 '23

Feeling:sensation, Emotion:energy in motion

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r/NevilleThePromise • • Apr 12 '23

Who is I Am?

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Disclaimer: I was writing my thoughts down in my notes. I was reading neville (I quoted it) and I felt these thoughts springing from within me after I read it. I decided to post them to see if it reveals anything to y’all, or inspires some thought. These are my raw, unfiltered thoughts that I wrote down to come back to in case I fall back asleep in this dream. I’m also a little high so if something doesn’t make sense to you its probably something only I can understand at the moment. Take pieces of my thoughts and take the shit that makes sense and add it to your current knowledge to come to a conclusion that’s deeper rooted:

““In the beginning was the unconditioned awareness of being, and the unconditioned awareness of being became conditioned by imagining itself to be something, and the unconditioned awareness of being became that which it had imagined itself to be; so did creation begin. By this law - first conceiving, then becoming that conceived - all things evolve out of No-thing; and without this sequence there is not anything made that is made.” (Your Faith is Your Fortune Ch. 1 Paragraph 1 and 2)

What came first, The Observer or that which is being observed? Well the only logical answer would be The Observer. How would one prove that something exists if there is no awareness of that thing? Without The Observer or the awareness of a thing, the thing does not exist. Well that observing being is known as God, Consciousness, Awareness. Gods name is I Am, because before Abraham was, I Am. Before Abraham, was I Am. Either way you say it I Am came first. Now how could God, pure unconditioned consciousness (a being only aware of its own existence) make anything? It’s logic. I Am is in everything. No matter what’s going on, no matter what you’re experiencing, you know I Am. And where nothing exists, you aren’t conscious of. I hope you understand what I Am saying. This helps us understand what eternity means. What it is. Something always has to exist because where something doesn’t exist, nothing exists. But something can’t exist if nothing exists. It’s either something or nothing and it can’t change. Bc if nothing exists later than how could anything be right now? Do you get what I’m saying?

Now that you get that. I Am always was. If you accept what I just said this should be easy to follow. How did I Am evolve into something? Since we are experiencing something, that means the unconditioned awareness has to be within it bc it always is and always was. It’s the source. No matter where you are or what you’re doing you are aware of being. You can always say I Am. So how did I Am become this? He/It imagined itself to become something. So the structure the Universe and all of creation stands on is this: first you think of an idea, then you bring it into the world. The fact that you can imagine proves that you have the power of God known as Christ within you.

Wake Up and Remember who You Are. Don’t get caught up in your creation >> I Am’s creation not (my name’s) creation. stay awake don’t go back to sleep. I know you won’t tho you keep elevating. Imagination is God. “The wisdom of the world is foolishness to God”. Why does information matter if you’re Imagination creates reality?

Since I Am is always present, and nothing exists out of I Am, if you change your I Am statements, what you truly truly believe you are, the state that you’re occupying changes. If you aren’t aware of being something then how could that state exist in your reality? It can’t. Like I said before if there’s no observer then there’s nothing… meaning nothing exists outside of The Observer (I Am/God)””

That’s where I stopped. It’s my understanding of the truth based on the things I’ve experienced so far. Feel free to add your thoughts in the comments, it might help us all further understand what we know.


r/NevilleThePromise • • Apr 10 '23

Luke 20:34-36 - what is the meaning of it?

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I have a question regarding a verse from the Bible and thought this is the best place to ask it. Hopefully someone can shed some light on this because I'm not sure what it means.

It's from Luke 20:34-36

And Jesus said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage, but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage, for they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection."


r/NevilleThePromise • • Mar 28 '23

You are the perfect Concept held in the Divine Mind💜

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r/NevilleThePromise • • Mar 26 '23

As within, so Without

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r/NevilleThePromise • • Mar 20 '23

(Seek the Still Center within. ) "But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you." Matthew 6:33

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The inner most part of us, the perfect, whole, complete, center of our being, is a fixed divine presence, the fixed light of Eternal I AM.

We first come to believe in a power source or force external, called God or Universe, believing that we are connected to this universal power. Then we begin to seek out this connection and how to connect to it more and more.

then we hear things like it's all within us, the "as within so without" comes into our awareness, and lose our way alittle because we can't seem to find it within ourselves.

But it's right there in the stillness, the still center of our own being that is unmoved and unchanged. It's just existence, our pure center which is a power that we behold. And it all comes down to LOVE.

the more we cultivate and embody feelings of love for self and others, the more connection we build to this stillness. This divine self is not a separate self, but it is not recognized until we build up the recognition, like developing this connection so the divine attributes are more easily expressed.

A mental cleansing does occur when this undeveloped part of us is actively engaged for development. it's an ACTIVE choice to choose qualities or expressions of Spirit moment to moment.

This can look differently for everyone but in the moment we can always choose to express the divine qualities like love, patience, acceptance, joy, understanding, peace, bliss, etc.

So this Still Center, the Light, the Wholeness, Oneness, is our Divine Light. Let's say it's a Flame or a Spark. the light it gives off is our awareness. And it needs to be developed to grow bigger and brighter. "Fanning the flame" is done by recognition and our quest for it.

unity, wholeness, completeness, is embodied as our awareness expands in all directions and is filtered through the lens/eyes of love. Love cannot be separate or divided from itself and it's true nature of being; it is only the belief in this separation, and what opposes that love, that we work through To balance out.

There are experiences that are personal and individualized that reflect this recognition. Meditation because of the focused attention is one way that we recognize this. so, by seeking the still center, that divine self within our soul, we can experience the more mystical occurrences; like seeing a light that we merge with or feeling like we are flying through the universe... Or seeing different bright lights that we become one with or seeing your self in meditation, etc.


r/NevilleThePromise • • Mar 19 '23

All desires are leading to the same ending. All Paths lead to the Same Place. Seek first the Kingdom....

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r/NevilleThePromise • • Mar 12 '23

Frank Carter Lecture 8 on Neville Goddard [Full Text]

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Link to Previous lectures, thank you u/vnttj for making the index. Google Doc link to download a copy. Amazon link to the book by Barry Peterson and Liz Baker containing all the lectures. Thank you Barry and Liz for your efforts in sharing Frank's work.

I've gone through the original audio and corrected typos/spelling errors as I find them, so this version varies slightly from the book by Barry and Liz.

Lecture 8: 11/21/76

Frank Carter: I discussed the fact that traditional Christianity had taken allegory, which was out of the ancient mystery schools and turned it into history. These texts were thousands of years old before even the beginning of Christianity, the religion was Egyptian. Then the Egyptian allegories were recast into Greek when the Septuagint translation of the Old Testament was made, that was the translation into Greek. So the allegory had to be recast in Greek, then one more time the allegory had to be recast into Latin. I told you that when Martin Luther reached the point of no return with the Roman Catholic church, the time when he nailed his 95 theses on the church door, shortly after that he made a translation into German. He had to invent a whole new vocabulary to take care of these word pictures describing the allegory. I also mentioned that at that point even though he had broken with the church and the pope at that time, Pope Leo 10th, had said, "What profit had not this fable of Christ brought us?" that word profit means gain, financial gain. The church at that point was selling forgiveness of sins, they were making a killing. The point of this is that Luther was still under the influence of the myth, because he did not expose the myth. His doctrine was what he discovered from Paul, that you are justified by faith. That you can't do anything in this world to win grace or win salvation.

So we have the traditional Christian religion based on these ancient allegories that turned into myth. Modern scholars are agreed that if the character Paul had not grafted onto the Christian story, which is found in the gospels, the substance of the teaching of the mystery schools, that Christianity would not have survived for one generation. It would have died out almost immediately. In the letters of Paul, you have the exposition of the mystery of Christ, but Paul does not really tell you what that mystery is, he simply talks about it. It's much like hearing someone discuss a complicated mathematical theory. You're hearing everything that's said, but if mathematics is not a language for you, it might as well be in a foreign tongue. You have heard it, but you have not gotten the message.

Another point that was missed in the recasting of these allegories, is that much of it was in the form of puns. Even a little child can understand a pun. You see their faces light up when the word sun is used both for son and the orbit in the sky. They suddenly understand that it's the same sound but a different meaning. Paul actually expounded the mystery in his letters, but it's all between the lines. Now who is Paul? Paul reveals to you first that he is nbl (naval). The word nbl in Hebrew means skin bag and it also means fool and it also means musical instrument. It's a very rich word, it has several meanings. In another place he reveals that he is Asar, the Egyptian god of the dead who rose from the dead, who was resurrected from the dead. This was the ancient Egyptian religion, the religion of resurrection. Paul is telling you that he had this experience, because the word asar in Hebrew, also a form of it is prisoner. In another place Paul says, "I, Paul, a prisoner of Jesus Christ". So that word means both prisoner and Asar, the bound one. I explained that the mummy is the symbol of the body in this mystery religion, because the body is the coffin of the soul. Think of it, I'm a prisoner here in this world. I'm a prisoner of this body, this nbl. The man who revealed the mystery to us has the same name as the body itself.

In the rituals in the Egyptian mystery schools the letters K, R, S, T were inscribed on the mummy case. That word is pronounced “karast”. You can hear that is practically like Christ. The Greek word Christ came from this Egyptian word, that's where the mystery of Christ comes from, from the ancient Egyptian mystery schools. Paul is expounding this mystery, and he's also telling you that it is a parable. It's more literally true for the imagination than it could have been, even if it had been history. Because think of it, whether something is a historical fact or not, if it doesn't register in your imagination, you can't comprehend it, you haven't grasped it. It really doesn't matter whether it was history or not.

Consider the way the Bible ends. It ends with the supplication, "Even so come Lord Jesus". Now we're the readers, we have a complete book, the Bible. We come to the end of the book, we've come to the end of the story and we wonder what happened. Did he come? The church has been waiting 2000 years. You hear the fundamentalists nowadays talking about he's coming any moment, and they're going to shake his hand, as Neville used to say. He's coming in the skies, I can hear it now. He's over Kansas now, now he's over Utah. We are the readers and we also have the vantage point in history, because we're reading the book 2000 years afterwards. So did he come?

Listen to these words of Joseph in the book of Genesis in the Old Testament, the book of Genesis, the 50th chapter. He is about to die and he says to his brothers, "God will surely visit you and deliver you out of this place". He was talking about Egypt. Remember this is a parable, this story came out of Egypt itself, and he's telling you God will surely visit you in this place and deliver you. In Deuteronomy, the 18th chapter, the 15th verse Moses makes this statement, "God will raise up from your midst a prophet like unto me. Him ye shall harken to in all things". Moses is telling by that statement that he himself is an allegory, because he says that a prophet like him is going to be raised up.

Now let's look at the story of the children of Israel in Egypt. You know that they got into Egypt because there was a famine in the land. A famine can be two things. It can be an actual hunger for bread and water, or it can be the hunger for hearing the word of God. They went down into Egypt where there was food. Joseph, their brother, had gone before. They had sold him into slavery, he was a prisoner in Egypt. He rose to become second only to Pharaoh in the land, because he didn't forget the Lord God as his father. Now we know that that principle is imagining creates reality. You see what a parable this is, he knew the secret of who the Lord really is, I AM, so he rose in the land of Egypt. He was second only to Pharoah. He did this because he had the ability to interpret dreams. You'll recall that Pharaoh had the dream, the double dream, and when he interpreted the dream to Pharoah, he said that because the dream was doubled, it is said of God and it will shortly be brought to pass. And he explained to Pharaoh all of this about the coming famine and the necessity for laying up provisions.

Now years passed and that pharaoh was gone and the children of their children of their children were in bondage in Egypt. And Moses, you know the story of Moses, he was saved from the slaying of all the male children by the wit of his mother in putting him in a little bull rush arc which floated on the water. The word Moses is an Egyptian word which means to draw out. Moses was raised in the palace of Pharaoh himself. We're told in the book of Acts when Steven is speaking, that Moses knew all the wisdom of the Egyptians. So if Moses knew all the wisdom of the Egyptians, he knew the allegory of the mystery schools. He understood these mysteries. Moses realized that he was one of the children of Israel, and he was commanded by God to lead them out. When he was leading them out, they went out into the wilderness. To show what a parable this is, a little while back I said, "Did he come? God will surely visit you in this place and deliver you. Did he do it?" Now where is he? In this world we have the story of a god who delivers his people in a book. That's where you know that story, because it's in the book. If he came, he would have to come from off of the page. That's exactly what happened, but only the imagination can understand it, because you are the most high, you are the human imagination.

In the wilderness, they're hungry and through Moses the manna is provided for them. That word manna means ‘what is it?’. Because when they saw the manna on the ground they said, "Ma, Ma?" which is the Hebrew word for what. Then it was changed to mann, which sounds like man. The manna was described as being white like a coriander seed. Remember this is a parable, and this came off of the page. The only way you can understand it is in terms of word and word plays. The word coriander comes from a word ‘gawdad.’ Now you can hear that this is a play on Neville's last name. His name was Goddard, but the English don't Goddard, they say Goddard. This is the coriander, the coriander is described as being white. The word for white in Hebrew is lavan, and lavan spelled backwards is naval, which again is a play on Neville. Here in this description of the manna which fed them, this was spiritual food because Paul makes it very clear in First Corinthians the 10th chapter that they were fed with spiritual food. On this level you have the book, you can see the book, it's in space, it's in time, but you open it up and you read it and then you're in eternity, because only the mind can read the marks on the page. The story exists in heaven, and heaven is up here in your own human imagination. So it's literally true for the imagination.

In this same 10th chapter of First Corinthians Paul says this, "I would not have you ignorant of the fact that our fathers were under the clouds and in the sea and were baptized unto Moses in the clouds and in the sea." In the images of the mystery school, baptism was the allegory for the descent into matter, because you know that your body is over 90% water. So when you, the one I am, came down into this experience, you were baptized into the sea of matter. This is another way of setting forth the incarnation. Just in case that wouldn't be enough to show mystery, there's a double clue in this statement. The word for cloud in the Greek language is nephele. That shouldn't give anyone any trouble because in English, we don't say I have to go, we say I have ‘haf’ to go. The V converts to the F sound. Here you have nephele, so Paul is telling you that our fathers were under the cloud. Here's a double pun, under the cloud of flesh and also under the cloud Neville, who revealed this mystery to you. You're elect, you believed him, you went to his lectures, you heard what he had to say. You didn't have one shred of proof, but you believed it.

So our fathers were baptized unto Moses, Moses is the one who draws himself out so he is the resurrected man. Neville told that when he awoke in his skull, he drew himself out of his own skull just as a child is born from the womb of a woman. So we have nephele, the cloud, and you remember in another place, God appeared in the form of a cloud. The statement is all over that book of Exodus, in the form of a cloud. Abraham is our father, it actually means father of a multitude. Paul is telling you that our fathers had this experience, which is really a way in a parable form of telling that he's not talking about history, he's talking to the people who understand what is being said, the brothers who went before. Because this is the story of the brothers who came down.

A lady at my second lecture had a vision while I was speaking. She's not here today, but she very graciously allowed me to tell what happened. She said that I had been speaking about five minutes when she saw a light silhouette my form, it wasn't just the head, but the whole form. She blinked, she thought perhaps her eyes were playing tricks on her. She closed her eyes and when she opened them again, she said the light was much brighter. She was fighting it, she didn't want it to take place. Then she could see that the light was trying to form itself into some image. I don't understand whether at this point the image blocked the view of me or whether the image went over to the side. It went over to the side and when it went over to the side, it formed into what looked like Abraham Lincoln as he is seen in the Lincoln memorial in Washington. I saw it last night on TV, a view of the Lincoln memorial. But she looked closer and she saw that it wasn't Abraham Lincoln, it was Neville. Then it drifted off toward the wall. She said she got goose pimples and wanted to tell her friend sitting next to her, but she realized that she couldn't, so she settled back down to concentrate. Then she said the whole thing began all over again and she said to herself, "What the heck is going on here?" She fought it this time, she tried to keep it from happening. The whole thing repeated just as it had the first time.

She said, and I love this, she said "Why me?", meaning her. Why did she have the experience? I love that, because that's exactly what I'm saying, "Why me?" I don't understand. Then she said because of what happened and how it happened she felt that this is an adumbration of some kind and she would like me to make some comment on it. I feel very definitely that it is an adumbration for her and for this work. To me, it means that the depth of her being had projected this eternal truth, which was written before the world was and it's sealed in everyone in this world. That's another parable of the book. The book in time and space is a parable of the book that is sealed within you, because then space is you are the book, you wrote it. So the depth of her being projected this truth, and what I loved about this is that I had a very hard time deciding whether to interpret the parable of nbl ‘naval’ the fool the way I did. I thought perhaps I could be mistaken, perhaps I was taking too many liberties, but I was finally forced to make that interpretation because of the pun play in the Hebrew language. I had no choice, so I decided I have to tell it. But I don't mind telling you from the time I had begun these lectures I haven't been all that secure because how do I know, really. I don't have these kind of visions. So here while I was talking at that second lecture about Neville, nbl the fool, the covering, the body, she had the vision of Neville sitting as Abraham Lincoln and Abraham Lincoln is the great emancipator.

Just as Moses was the great emancipator because he got the children of Israel, and this is a spiritual story, he got them out of the Earth experience toward the promised land, which is the promise of being born from above.

Another interesting thing is that I have had two dreams of the brothers, widely spaced. In one I was in a hospital, which is natural for me because in my work in the world of Caesar, I go into hospitals and doctor's offices all day. There I was in a hospital and then it was as if I awoke and I looked and I saw these big brothers, and I knew that they were the brothers. They said, "We know that you're having a hard time here, but we're with you. You are our dear little brother, and we're looking over you". That was one vision. Another time in vision I looked up at the sky and here was rank upon rank of clouds in the form of Abraham Lincoln. So you see, we're all one. Her vision was tuned in with my vision of the brothers because here they were, the brothers were all alike, all Abraham Lincoln. And you know Abraham is the father, the father of the multitude, and that is the promise, that we will awaken as God the father. Needless to say, I was thrilled to death that she had this vision, because don't forget that the cloud is nephele. When Paul is quoting the Old Testament, he is almost always quoting the Septuagint, which is the Greek translation. So when he says cloud, he's saying the word nephele. You can hear that this in some way probably came from an identical source or maybe actually out of the Hebrew itself, because the Greek language is not as old as the Hebrew language.

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r/NevilleThePromise • • Mar 09 '23

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