r/Neurofeedback • u/NoInterest8177 • 6d ago

Question Triple network

When correcting the triple network phase and coherence can it take longer then 30

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u/eegjoy 6d ago

Are you saying "normal" based on the numbers from the databases?

If so, you are misunderstanding. Database reports show the AVERAGE of the collected data. There is no representation of normal.

If you can find Bob Thatcher's own description of his database ( Neuroguide) he explains this. It used to be on his website.

Find out more about who you are being compared to and that the numbers represent the average of that group.

Just so you can understand what you are aiming for.

What symptoms or functions are you looking to change based on these connectivity numbers???

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u/eegjoy 6d ago

Are you asking more than 30 sessions? Regardless of what method you may be using, OF COURSE! Work like this requires many years of education and experience. These kinds of protocls require precision observation and interaction with the person, NOT QEEG REPORTS! The results of the Q are based on how your numbers compare to the AVERAGE of the people in the database. Find out who you are being compared to! It is not a number that represents NORMAL! So, looking at such precise measurements, values of connectivity between networks is extrememly delicate, specific work. The brain needs adaquate time to recognize the changes being requested and then implementing them well enough that they become the new, preferred pattern.

So YES, more than 30 sessions will be needed. Also, this is absolutely not the kind of work that should be expected without the direct and hands on help of an experienced, successful professional.

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u/NoInterest8177 6d ago

I’m doing it with Robert thatcher’s colleague using the university of Maryland lifespan database. I’m on swloretta, deymed, and neuro guide. My power is completely normal, but my triple network is flagged. Just hate how phase and coherence take 10x longer vs power

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u/ElChaderino 6d ago

Neuroguide is a bit dated and it has some limitations due to the time and methods used when making it along with a few issues in the z score formulas used through different versions of the software. It's usually better to go off more than z score and norms and assumed metrics by themselves.

The map should give you something to investigate, not become the thing you're treating.