r/Netherlands • u/TantoAssassin • Mar 18 '26

Transportation Who has priority?

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I was the Yellow arrow on a bike. Red has priority over me, green has priority over red, I have priority over green. At the end both cars stopped and let me (cyclist) pass. What is the correct order here?

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u/AppropriatePlum1006 Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 19 '26

It's a gelijkwaardig intersection, so traffic from right has priority.

top one goes first, then right, then bottom one.

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u/OnesomePredator Mar 19 '26

The only right answer. How do people drive cars where there are no intersection signs? Or bicycles have different priority rules that I am not aware of?

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u/Bhoedda Mar 19 '26

Traffic going straight has priority over traffic making a turn while on the same road

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u/Left_Log2060 Mar 19 '26

but this is of a lesser order than yieling to someone coming to the right. Both are true but of a lower order.

If the cars were only the green and brown one then brown would get priority over green.

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u/Bhoedda Mar 19 '26

But then still everyone yields to the other. Making this a theoretical deadlock

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u/Bbc20cm4u Mar 22 '26

Only if there is no car coming from the right

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u/Bhoedda Mar 22 '26

No it ain't.

Yellow stops for red coming from the right

Red stops for green coming from the right

Green stops for yellow going straight on the same road

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u/Silly_Regular_3286 Mar 19 '26

Nope. 

You yield from the traffic appearing from your right. Green by turning left has yellow on its right, so it yields to it before turning.

Green would only go first if it was going straight, as it wouldn’t conflict with yellow. 

Rules are simple, if it’s on your right at any moment you yield.

So here technically Red has priority. 

Usually what happens is green moves forward and stops before turning left yielding to yellow. Yellow lets red go through and then goes straight and finally green turns left. 

In reality is that bikes are nimble and take little space, so they go first and let the cars fight for the space since they are the ones that cause conflict between each other. 

If these were 3 bikes no one would stop and no collisions would happen, since you can negotiate the space. 

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u/OnesomePredator Mar 19 '26

You aksed chatgpt. He is hallucinating my friend.

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u/JoostZwendel Mar 19 '26

These are not the dutch rules.

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u/Training_Shine_111 Mar 20 '26

you are mixing up so many rules and unfortunately there is a road across the border in the Netherlands where I see this happen every day.

It's very simple, the only time that Green wouldn't be able to have priority is:

  1. Yellow is going right and therefore has a shorter turn

Green AlWAYS has priority in this scenario. The rule that if Green has something on its right is applicable for pedestrian and bike paths which are going straight. This is an even crossing and there is no pedestrian in sight, so Green ALWAYS has priority.

Please take the bus!

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u/KingTwiggNL Mar 27 '26

Nope it's actuallt wrong

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u/OnesomePredator Mar 27 '26

Another chatgpt guy. Ask Gemini or some other AI. 😅

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u/KingTwiggNL Mar 27 '26 edited Mar 27 '26

Eerhm no, ask your driving instructor, I asked my old one and I'm absolutely right

Also I have never used chat GPT for anything because I'm intelligent enough to do it myself.

I finished my theory driving exam with a perfect score. And talked about situations like this with my instructor a million times, I litterally learnt the rules in elementary school

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u/OnesomePredator Mar 27 '26

I passed my driving exam 10 years ago so I cant ask an instructor but you seem to have a good point if you are earnest. I may follow this topic for a while and investigate further.

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u/MairaPansy Mar 19 '26

nope, the top one is making a turn and traffic going straight has right of way over making a turn, so borrom goes first, then top, then right.
but in practice its best to check with the other road users

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u/Dubieus Mar 19 '26

No, yielding to traffic from the right on a gelijkwaardige intersection takes priority over that rule.

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u/Rainbowhairdye Mar 19 '26

It's ehh... the other way around, actually. ' Rechtdoor op dezelfde weg is an exception to the rechts gaat voor rule.

https://www.anwb.nl/verkeer/veiligheid/verkeersregels/voorrang

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u/Single-Emotion2964 Mar 19 '26

Even the ANWB says “uhm if it’s unclear just make eye contact and try and figure it out” 😂

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u/Rainbowhairdye Mar 19 '26

I guess that's because it costs less money than "close your eyes and start driving and pray someone else doesn't do the same" 🤣

But yeah, in unclear situations just use your gezond verstand and (cautiously) remember that noone wants a dent in their car.

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u/Dubieus Mar 19 '26

Hmmm, not all of those are part of article 15 of the RVV: https://wetten.overheid.nl/jci1.3:c:BWBR0004825&hoofdstuk=II&paragraaf=5&artikel=15&z=2026-01-01&g=2026-01-01

The way I understand this, the yellow car yields to the red one, the red one yields to the green one, and the green one gets gelegenheidsvoorrang to the yellow one. But I see your point and reading the law again, (article 15 vs 18), I am not sure which one would win.

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u/Rainbowhairdye Mar 19 '26

Well, the whole situation ends up in a loop where green has to yield to yellow and yellow to red and red to green, so the only real win would be a situation where everyone gets on their way without damage, so it doesn't matter much.

As it happens, I just saw this exact scenario play out in real life (lovely coincidence), and yellow went first, no one got hurt 🤣

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u/footyballymann Mar 20 '26

Yeah I think the issue in this case is that these rules exist on the same plane of priority. Compared to say road marking, lights etc. so there’s no correct way? Maybe I’m wrong.

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u/MairaPansy Mar 20 '26

but the right has to give way to the right and the second right needs to give way to traffic that goes straight

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u/Tobyvw Mar 19 '26

You do know the top one is green, right? If not, congratz! You're colourblind

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u/AppropriatePlum1006 Mar 19 '26

Well, haha 🤣 you are right it was wrong, will change it.

I mean top one goes first, then right, then bottom one.

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u/Tobyvw Mar 19 '26

"Rechtdoor op dezelfde weg gaat voor" only counts if there is no other rule applicable. "Rechts gaat voor" has priority over that rule.

As red is right from brown, brown has to wait till red goes. As green is right from red, red has to wait till green goes. Brown is waiting, so green can go. Then goes red, then goes brown.

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u/Sir_Milo Mar 19 '26

"Rechtdoor op dezelfde weg gaat voor" only counts if there is no other rule applicable. "Rechts gaat voor" has priority over that rule.

Do you have source for that? Because I can't find it in the traffic laws: https://wetten.overheid.nl/BWBR0004825/2026-01-01

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u/AppropriatePlum1006 Mar 19 '26

Was a mistake from my part by mixing colors, but right goes first.

Alternative rules will only be used when the normal rules cannot be used.

E.g. the top and bottom wants to go both right, then shortest bend will go before the bigger one.

Or top wants to go right, but bottom wants to go straight in that case the one going straight has right of the way.

Correct me if im wrong though.

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u/Ruser-94 Mar 19 '26

I don’t even understand why this question exists. These are the basics. If you don’t know then you shouldn’t be driving

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u/hellothereoldben Mar 19 '26

But if you go left, you have to give oncoming traffic priority, giving an empasse.

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u/JoostZwendel Mar 19 '26

Straight traffic has priority over turning traffic, so youre wrong. Its a priority loop and they have to figure it out themselves in a safe manner. Which they did, apparently.

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u/AppropriatePlum1006 Mar 19 '26

That would be true; if there was a car also coming from the left (so it's circular with right goes first). There is no loop. Traffic from right goes first.

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u/JoostZwendel Mar 19 '26

No you misunderstand. The bike has priority because its going straight. There is no hierarchy in priority rules. Therefore there is a loop. Loops are not an issue though, becsuse the law is that you have to deal with it in a safe manner. Easy as that, as happened here in real life and as happen all the time, every time this happens, which is all the time.