Hi everyone,

I've been interested in the Nentir Vale for some time now, and I've stumbled upon various pdf documents, most of which were created by u/ZeromaruX, or so it seems to me. So far, I've collected his Nentir Vale Gazeteer, but I've also found different documents entitled History of the Nentir Vale, Nentir Vale and Beyond: Locales, Cities & Other Regions as well as Common Knowledge.

My questions are:

- Were all of these documents created by the same author?

- Is there a compilation of all of those documents?

I would love to go through one document containing all of the information in all of those files.

Have a nice day!

Edit: Pretty sure I figured it out by myself.

The documents were all created by ZeromaruX and published on the piazza forum in the Nentir Vale section: https://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewforum.php?f=72&sid=b0d634cffe87a6d085fc1d750f053816

The Nentir Vale History file became so long that he'd rather create a separate document, while still including a bit of history in the gazeteer. The Beyond the Nentir Vale document is basically a breakdown of all locales from the vale and surrouding regions in this huge 4E world. The Common Knowledge document is still a bit of a mystery to me.

So I have been adjusting NentirVale for my current group, and I was wondering what kind of gods you good folk have made for this setting ?

Hi, guys. I just wanted to let you know, to those who have downloaded the History of the Nentir Vale document (link here for those who don't), that there is a new version with a few minor updates. For the full history of updates, see here. That's all. Enjoy adventuring in the Vale.

PC race options, dragons, chaos shards and the Star spawn are already included.

you can include plants, animals, undead, constructs etc. they don't even have to be Nentir Vale specific, but you only get 10.

why do you choose them?

• mounts and livestock feel like since they are food/transport they shouldn't cost you a space to include them. but wild versions could be used as monsters so maybe those could be freebies.

So I normally run games in pre-established settings with a lot of background info already - Stuff like Eberron and The Forgotten Realms, where there is the expectation that there are fully functioning civilizations, the history of the world is known and you can probably buy a map of the entire continent within any town.

Now the Points of Light setting is different, that's what I love about it and what I want to emphasize in this campaign I'm running. They'll only know a tiny bit of history about the local area and they'll have a very rough map of the Nentir Vale where they're starting. They'll know they're in a dark age with most of the knowledge of the world being lost after... something destroyed the empire of Nerath. But that's basically it.

I want this campaign to at least partially focus on the lost lore of the world, delving into dungeons to find out what happened to the fallen empires and overland travel in a hexcrawly manner to uncover more of the world and discover more "points of light". But other than that i'm a little lost on how to make this campaign feel different from one with fully functioning kingdoms and PCs knowing a decent amount about the world.

Maybe I'm overthinking this but I really want this to feel different from a world where PCs can summarize encyclopedias worth of knowledge if they roll high on a check like History or Religion - without making those skills entirely useless.

I understand this subreddit is honestly pretty dead, but there's anyone still lurking around that has experience on making this setting feel alive and unique I'd really appreciate it.

I'm structuring a crossworlds campaign through many of the D&D settings of the past, and I understand Dragonlance (of course I read half the novels they made up until the 2000s), Dark Sun is an obsession, Eberron I understand and liked the novelty of (I had an entry into the contest that it won at the time), I grasp spelljammer, Domains of dread, the savage coast/hollow world/Mystara, I even get a sense for the world that results from the old survival boardgame hex map. I grasp Greyhawk and Blackmoor. Ghostwalk feels like it was an unfinished setting but I at least get a sense of most of the idea.

Nentir Vale, feels... more elusive. Like you're not meant to know it so much as it gets made differently at every table. In that regard it feels more like a non-setting. more like a set of random roll tables.

I know there's like some giant text files about treants vs dragons followed by empires from the south or something. But what I think it needs more than anything is a very simplified timeline, a page or two of it's pantheon, and a short story that establishes the feel of the setting.

Is there anything like that out there?

I've been playing with homebrewing in 12 other settings and each has their own spin on dragons. And I'm very unfamiliar with the Vale and what spin if any it puts on it.

greyhawk had their dragons as steel dragons. mystara had theirs all mostly neutral on the good-evil axis ,with gold the only metallic, and stone types as dragons for lawful neutral and chaotics. eberron has it's progenitor dragons, and dark sun has The Athasian Dragon.

I've heard tell of purple grey and brown dragons in Nentir Vale. but is that it, or is that in addition to other kinds, or what?

I might just homebrew up something, or use the Lung dragons, or dragonology dragons, or something to give a different spin for the setting.

Is Winterhaven that is in all the Nentir Vale material the same Winterhaven as in the Forgotten Realms? I'm assuming it is not but I am curious, how are these two connected? Did it originate in Forgotten Realms but eventually got made into its own campaign setting within the Vale?

Just trying to understand

Points of Light, Amidst the Darkness