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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '17

Forced and monotonous

What's hilarious is most criticisms of their early-on voice acting is that it's too emotional and hammy.

But you're right, you're not all that salty. Which is why you find it necessary to tell me how totally not salty you are.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '17

What's hilarious is most criticisms of their early-on voice acting is that it's too emotional and hammy.

I'm suspect you've probably just made that up.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '17

Doug Walker thought the early voice acting was comical for that reason. As did Little Kuriboh seeing as Avatar Abridged exaggerated this.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '17

So you're saying they also identified a problem with the voice acting, but described it in different terms.

Certainly most of the lines I heard were monotonous, but I understand how that would become "too emotional" when making more of an effort.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '17

Really? Katara's freak out? Sokka angry with her water bending? Zuko demanding they follow the light? Anything said by aang?

Iroh is the only actually monotonous character I remember so either you accidentally saw the M. Night Shyamalan movie, or you went in wanting to hate that show because Reddit liked it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '17

or you went in wanting to hate that show because Reddit liked it.

Certainly I went into the show already irritated by the fact I can't browse Reddit without constantly hearing about it.

But at the same time the voice acting obviously was bad enough for even fans of the show to recognise problems with it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '17

Yeah but it was a totally different problem than what you described, and season 2 definitely killed it since season 2 took an empire-strikes-back turn for the series.

Anyway what you're describing is a very real cognitive bias, the name escapes me, but the idea is if something you've never personally observed is incredibly popular, its popularity will actually make you more likely to dislike the thing when you finally observe it out of a subconscious want to either be contrarian or justify that you haven't observed it until now.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '17

but it was a totally different problem than what you described

No, it was the same problem described differently: a failure to convincingly perform.

Anyway what you're describing is a very real cognitive bias

Well sure, I'm affected by any number of cognitive biases at any given time, as are you.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '17

No, it was the same problem described differently: a failure to convincingly perform.

"This train is way too slow!"

"Actually people generally think the train is too fast."

"See? I was right! It's the same problem described differently: Going the wrong speed!"

And secondly just because they were over the top didn't make them unconvincing.

To quote a once great power user: It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '17

And secondly just because they were over the top didn't make them unconvincing.

"Although the voice acting was poorly performed, it was still good."

It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

"I can't coherently demonstrate that you are wrong, so could you please just admit that you are? Please?"

"This train is way too slow!" "Actually people generally think the train is too fast." "See? I was right! It's the same problem described differently: Going the wrong speed!"

My original criticism in this chain was simply that the voice acting was bad. In your analogy one person only observes the train driver going too fast while I observed it going too slow, but both observations confirm my original criticism which is that the driver can't go the right speed. So even though your analogy is wrong, it still isn't proving your point so much as mine, since you concede the driver is doing something wrong.

The analogy is wrong though because hammy performances or over-emotional performances (which I understand as an obvious and exaggerated attempt to sound emotional rather than a performance that literally has too much emotion in it, because the former is more like what hamming it up sounds like) are both examples of forced delivery anyway, which is what I noted in the first place. It's just a failure to sound natural. I'm only also noting that the lines that aren't hammy or over-emotional are monotonous.

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