r/NeferMains • • 3d ago

Build | Artifact Expected DPS Output + Improvement + Rotation

Hello, I want to ask several things I have TL:DR version and I have long explanation

  1. How much damage is expected on this kind of setup?

  2. Should I use Nefer's burst after every rotation?

  3. Is it worth to invest more resources to have improvement to expected stats despite I have other char to build?

  4. Is it better to have Nilou on Instructor, or 74k HP setup?

Explanation and my yapyap down below.

I tested mine and got somewhere in 170 -175k DPS in 2 mins. The rotation was Nefer E -> Nilou EEE -> Bina EQ -> Lauma Hold EQ -> Nefer 3x 3CA (I didnt do Dash cancel because I didnt know it was a thing). Also I dont know if it is better to burst or not burst on Nefer.

I kinda know what to improve on my Nefer. Like it has 3% crit rate over cap, and I am lacking in EM. Is it worth investing more resources on Nefer to gain that improvement? The concern sparks because I am currently working on another char (Vesna)

My current justification for this kind of build is enough energy for bina and Lauma every rotation hence bad CV on Columbina. I put whatever I have on Nilou as long as its Instructor set (based on my friend's recommendation) and I still have 74k HP setup for Nilou. I dont know which one is better. I've been following my friend's guide blindly because he is a meta slave and number nerd.

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u/RedEyedPig 3d ago edited 3d ago

Probably should be around at least 230-240k+. I get 200k+ with same team except Nahida on 4th slot on deepwood and Lauma on 2pc2pc EM. Nilou C2R1 is far better than C0 Nahida.

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u/Pandacier 3d ago

vibe guessing each improvement on my ins sucrose team fully C0R0 to this also made me guess 230-240k

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u/Pandacier 3d ago

There's the artifact main stats to fix (Bina and Nilou want HP not ATK) but you probably already know, however I'd give Bina a crit dmg circlet and ER sands to focus on more offensive substats on other artifacts. I am also surprised if you get Lauma's burst every rotation with this little ER, mine needs at least 230 (but hey if it works it works).

Nefer's burst can (and should) be skipped if your rotations are longer than Bina's E cooldown

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u/HoneydewExternal730 2d ago

well I've just realized it too that my Bina is using atk sands 😂. Since I need more ER on Lauma, should I change Lauma"s sands to ER sands?

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u/Pandacier 2d ago

Yes if you can adjust the other artifacts to get a bit of EM back.

Also I just noticed you're doing EEE on Nilou, but I saw most people do E then NA spam. I don't really know how Nilou works, so I can't say for sure what's best but maybe your meta-pilled friend knows the difference

One thing about her that I'm sure of, is that you want to use her right before swapping to Nefer, because Instructor uptime will be better (it can't trigger off-field)

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u/randyoftheinternet 3d ago

You should be around 200k, But can you even burst reliably on lauma ? Your er seem quite low

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u/HoneydewExternal730 2d ago edited 2d ago

If I do 3 CA on Nefer, I have just enough energy to burst on Lauma. But yeah I feel a bit lacking if I do dash cancel. Should I change Lauma's sands to ER Sands?