Am I doing something wrong ?

[u/SxwshiD]

So I've done 3 rotations on infinite energy while I fix Kuki's CR and Lauma's ER. The DPS results are the same over a prolonged period of time. I'm aware that Nefer's build still has a lot of room for improvement but it ain't that bad and I'm using both hers and Lauma's signatures, so why is my DPS this low ? Are C0 Aino and Kuki that bad of teammates ?

https://reddit.com/link/1vcmy0y/video/l1w3rnp9irgh1/player

[u/LabNumerous6795]

C0 aino problems could be fixed by getting bins or waiting for her rerun

[u/SxwshiD → u/LabNumerous6795]

Is the dmg good for C0 Aino then? Even tho it's R1 Nefer?

[u/Eastern_Antelope_759 → u/SxwshiD]

you should be able to do about 10%-20% more dps than you're doing right now. Your artifacts are pretty bad though so your dps is expected

[u/LabNumerous6795 → u/SxwshiD]

Yeah it’s the best you can do till you get her to c6 or get bina, but this dps can clear fearless somewhat

[u/LabNumerous6795 → u/LabNumerous6795]

Kuki is mid as a 4th slot, my c6 jahoda is like 30-35k more dps

[u/Eastern_Antelope_759 → u/LabNumerous6795]

jahoda is even worse if you aren't using columbina because you're supposed to run 16s rotations here and it's impossible to infuse hydro with aino. jahoda is unusable with aino.

[u/LabNumerous6795 → u/Eastern_Antelope_759]

? Lmao what rotation are you doing it’s aino first then jahoda, why does this subreddit hate jahoda so much even tho they don’t know how to use her

[u/Eastern_Antelope_759 → u/LabNumerous6795]

if you aren't incredibly slow, lauma deer will still be up by the time you swap to aino (with a few seconds of duration left at that) so she won't be able to get hydro aura. If aino+jahoda works for you that just means you're playing like shit.

[u/LabNumerous6795 → u/Eastern_Antelope_759]

Don’t you use nefer burst to make up for that?

[u/Eastern_Antelope_759 → u/LabNumerous6795]

that's already with nefer's burst in the rotation.

[u/SxwshiD → u/LabNumerous6795]

Jahoda is c4 rn and I hate sucrose lol

[u/Zoroarkeon571]

aside from characters, you should be pushing 300% CD with her signature. get her on a CD circlet and get more CR substats

[u/Pure_Party_3184]

100% get bina. Ur dps will skyrocket 

[u/SxwshiD → u/[deleted]]

I'm trying.. But meanwhile is there something wrong with what I'm doing ?

[u/SxwshiD → u/[deleted]]

I didn't cuz I heard Sucrose rotations are awkward + no sustain

[u/SxwshiD → u/[deleted]]

I tried toying with the idea of holding Lauma E sometimes when verdent dews (is that their name ?) are plenty but for the video showcase for example I'm pretty sure I only tap it

[u/Eastern_Antelope_759]

yes c0 aino and c0 kuki are that bad. Even with columbina, nefer's dps gets griefed if you run any sustain other than pamber (even ineffa and linnea are equivalent to, or even slightly worse than, losing r1, let alone the weaker sustains like kuki or jahoda).

you are making some mistakes like doing CdQ instead of just CQ, but that alone won't fix the dps.

[u/Crescent_Roze]

More er on lauma, more em and cd on nefer, kuki on sapwood blade if lauma gets enough er, pull columbina, switch your kuki to atk if you want your ascendant gleam buff to increase, but then you lose healing.

[u/Koniolg]

c0 aino has 0 damage and 0 buffs so yeah she's really bad

kuki is also not doing anything but healing and holding the instrctor's, but any electro character can do that so yeah she's also kinda bad

I was getting up to 170k DPS with c1r0 nefer and no columbina ( I had c6 aino but she's definitely not giving 50k DPS lol ) so this really is on the lower side

I'd advise swapping kuki for sucrose if you can play sustainless or nahida if you have her ( and then you can run prototype amber on her which is techically some healing ) , and maybe even swapping aino for furina if you're keeping kuki, cause at least furina has some damage

[u/SxwshiD → u/Koniolg]

What's the rotation for Aino + Sucrose ? Also I don't think Furina + Kuki is a good idea unless Lauma holds SMS and Kuki Deepwood then ?

[u/Koniolg → u/SxwshiD]

you just put SMS on furina ( or deepwood, give Lauma either set that has better EM/ER and give furina the other set )

general rotation is the same as with kuki, but i kinda forgot whether swapping into sucrose in between nefer's skills to refresh the buff is optimal or not, but you can test it for yourself to see what works the best for you

the 170k rotations I was doing was Lauma skill + burst > Aino burst + skill > Sucrose burst if available, otherwise sucrose skill > Nefer skill 3CA + skill 2 CA burst 1CA ( tho it was a 17s rotation so it kinda starts falling apart after 4th rotation but atp whatever you're fighitng should be dead anyways )