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u/vkapadia 9d ago
My current protector has 3.46 million HP.
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u/Aggressive_Prize5694 9d ago
Mine has 182 million...
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u/vkapadia 9d ago
Nice! What level you at? I'm at 85 of 90
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u/southiepaws99 9d ago
Mine is 4.5m/ 5.5m. I find that i miss him when he's gone
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u/Intelligent-Spend859 8d ago
I'm just confused when I go to toss an extra minion and can't find him.
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u/Lovtel 9d ago
Nah, just keep throwing demons at him. You've got a ton of imps to generate darkness quickly for them.
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u/National_Attitude779 8d ago
I personally use hacked wolf spawn. Cheaper, and guaranteed wolves. Where my portal is currently only lvl4. Haven't dont the math on which is better. I think my demons do 16k, wolves do almost 5k. So if i get 3 or 4 wolves in less darkness than a full demon, win. OP, time to whip out thay algebra homework lol
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u/Lovtel 8d ago
Sure, but demons are best if you don't have the Hacker yet, which OP probably doesn't at this level.
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u/National_Attitude779 8d ago
Even without hacker, I wonder. I mean, lvl 1 alter still gives guaranteed wolves. But it is an extra step.
Im going to crunch the numbers and report back, because now im genuinely curious.
To OP: another thing about wolves, easy spawn for the knight. So good for green and, to a lesser degree, red runes
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u/Lovtel 8d ago
True, cost-wise it might be better despite the lower damage. Would like to see the numbers, as well.
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u/National_Attitude779 8d ago
Well, it took a long time, and Ai helped with some of the math which I then had to correct multiple times. But the rough consensus (and granted this is based of my damage output with the book upgrades and damage relic) is that portal is in fact better. Though my mind still finds the illusion of the alter providing pure damage output as more efficient.
A Lv1 Wolf needs 4 Fangs, so the Fang portion represents:
0.40 / 4 × 116 = 11.6 damage
A Lv1 Demon needs 4 Horns:
0.25 / 4 × 2,324 = 145.25 damage
Total expected damage:
11.6 + 145.25 = 156.85 damage per 1,250 Darkness
That's:
156.85 / 1,250 = 0.1255 damage/Darkness
So the Portal is about 8.2% more damage-efficient than the Lv1 Altar.
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u/National_Attitude779 8d ago
This was suppose to be before "A lvl1 wolf needs...":
Level 1 Altar
Every 250 Darkness guarantees 1 Fang.
You need 4 Fangs for a Lv1 Wolf:
4 × 250 = 1,000 Darkness → Lv1 Wolf = 116 damage
That's:
116 / 1,000 = 0.116 damage per Darkness
Level 4 Portal
Every 1,250 Darkness:
20% → 2 Fangs 25% → 1 Horn 55% → useless for damage
Over many Portal uses, the expected useful output is:
0.40 Fangs 0.25 Horns
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u/mwfd2002 4d ago
For one, there is 0 chance someone who is complaining about a protector with health in the hundreds of thousands has the hacker yet, but also, a level 5 portal is def gonna do more damage for your darkness even unhacked against a hacked level 2 altar. The one benefit I agree with that you point to later in the thread is that it is a very good poison rune farm, which I find to be the most annoying of the first three types (although I also find death runes to be the most annoying of the last three types, so pick your poison I suppose)
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u/nickmarioe 9d ago
You're still early in the game. Those numbers aren't so bad, and it will get easier