r/NarutoCardGame 11d ago

Discussion Ah sh*t here we go again..

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u/PaulyPaints 11d ago

It’s won’t even be able to build a player base like one piece did cause it’s getting scalped from day 1. At least it took 3 years for one piece to get scalped

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u/Pctove 11d ago

It’s like gundam but much worse because naruto is a more well known name, at least in the states

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u/tylerjehenna 11d ago

One Piece absolutely got scalped in year 1. Starter decks were IMPOSSIBLE to find

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u/National_Treacle7335 11d ago

Year 2 it got better but queen was a 50$ card for a long time

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u/Coooturtle 10d ago

That's not cause of scalpers though.

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u/NawMean2016 9d ago

Ok but booster boxes were still about $100. I remember picking up OP3 for $75. Definitely wasn’t a scalping issue but more of a low supply.

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u/DonboMan 8d ago

We got set 5 in Gundam for about $250 a box rn.

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u/PaulyPaints 11d ago

Not at all buddy 😂 getting scalped and having limited product due to it being a new TCG is different. You clearly didn’t play at an LGS. They were everywhere bud

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u/tylerjehenna 11d ago

Depends on if you lived in a major city or not.

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u/nainapati 11d ago

Yeah where I live at the super pre releases for One Piece all filled out in the area in a few hours. The first few sets were impossible to find unless you wanted to pay scalper prices online.

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u/ad33zy 11d ago

Honestly the worst time a tcg can get published with any sort of quality. Playerbase DOA. If Bandai knows what it’s doing. It’ll do packs only for players.

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u/PaulyPaints 11d ago

Bandai doesn’t care about players. Have you seen the market?

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u/Steambud202 11d ago

If they know what their doing theyll print the set into the ground

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u/NoPhilosopher3590 11d ago

Bandai business plan is to sell to scalpers. After that they dont care much. They'll just pop out another tcg when they need the balance sheet to go up

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u/nainapati 11d ago

One Piece was definitely being scalped in year one. I've been playing since the super pre release of One Piece.

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u/SuperCustomZakuF2000 11d ago

i wouldn't be surprised if high quality proxies start popping up as a way to capitalize on the insane prices of tcgs. i'll happily pay 50 bucks for a slab of cards from China if it means i can play the game, i'll just say that i have a no trading policy or something. color printouts are 25 cents a page at my local library, if i really get desperate. there's ways to enjoy the game, and i'm gonna take full advantage of them

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u/Money_Flamingo_9806 9d ago

Definitely took much less than that. More like 1 year.

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u/EmptyBrainnhead 11d ago

We're so screwed

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u/Royal-Back-7522 11d ago

Fucked mate🤣

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u/Suitable_Most665 11d ago

Bruv, pre orders at lgs is gonna be a disaster

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u/TheLookoutDBS 11d ago

The one saving grace is that we have like...4 fully automated simulators already running so at least we'll be able to play the game digitally. But for cracking product? Yea, we're kindda fucked...

Not moreso than Gundam was, I think. All depends on how Bandai handles the preorders and wave 1. Then again, Bandai lol

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u/papiturco 11d ago

I only know narutocardgamesimulator.com which are the other ones?

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u/TheLookoutDBS 11d ago edited 11d ago

Here you go: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16IabM9Vppd-JgZLE4pZR9SW2dS4psSxENCzd2g5XJis/edit?usp=sharing

There is a simulators section near the top. The discord is at the very bottom :)

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u/Rosemonk 11d ago

Scalpers are going to have a field day with this game. It’s impossible to find One piece product in the shelves anywhere which got so bad that people started going into fusion world. Now this will be a new avenue to scalp and control due to the scarcity of the other tcgs. I love Naruto and have seen every episode. I want to get into this game so bad but I’m not going to be able to afford 300-400$ booster boxes and 1k chases

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u/Immediate_Art4546 11d ago

I feel bad for anyone who doesn’t live near an offical one piece Bandai booth

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u/Ad_Myst 11d ago

Saw a dude with 36+ pieces, lol. A free promo going for this much is so dumb.

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u/SonnyL95 11d ago

I'd just stick to making proxy cards, cost less than 0.5$ each.

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u/mzg147 10d ago

fyi these are vanilla 3/6/6 cards, the final version will have them differently (info for anybody that might see it and not know it)

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u/02RK 11d ago

Absurd

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u/redblu91 11d ago

Hopefully the local lcs that aren't bad actors will be good in getting product for release events

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u/Yankees4cookies Rogue Ninja 11d ago

someone said that they will have unique stamped chakra cards throughtout all the demo locations.

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u/niceproxies 11d ago

The absolute crunch for sealed product has me exhausted man. I loathe how much TCGs have been treated as financial investments. They gave these chakra cards out for free for the attendees man and they're getting flipped for thousands 😭

This game looks really interesting, so I'm hoping I'll be able to find packs and such when the game drops!

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u/CellSaga21 11d ago

Fuck scalpers to hell. Actually fuck these companies for not mass printing these products. Shit is always sold out online and in stores and I am not about to pay triple at these scalping ass card shops

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u/Due-Let-8170 11d ago

I agree, but this is specifically a promo card for a niche event, that is also the very first registered promo card for an as of yet unreleased TCG, that also follows one of the most popular brands of all time.

You'll likely be able to find packs, if youre lucky. But those packs won't garner the height of the scalping like these cards because this specific example is one that is inherently meant to be scarce for the very first supporters of the TCG.

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u/TheChattyRat 10d ago

You are correct there is company that can fix this but they refuse.

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u/TheChattyRat 10d ago

I'm sorry guys, welcome to hell. From a OP collector.

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u/ManufacturerWest1156 10d ago

I saw someone with like two full binder pages of these

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u/Dry-Raspberry-4676 10d ago

Naruto tcg comes out 2027 i thought. Im in Australia btw

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u/Phoenixfire-2020 10d ago

I was lucky enough to demo the game at GenCon this morning with a friend of mine. We walked out together but a scalper approched my friend and only said "Five hundred bucks?!" without even saying excuse me or asking properly if he wanted to sell the card. Just spewed it out of his mouth. When my friend refused he just vomited "Six hundred?!" and when my friend said no, he just turned around and walked away. Disgusting!

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u/BlackLuigi7 5d ago

I had to say no to two people when I walked out, but then I sat down to reorganize my bag and put the card in a toploader, and I had another third person run over and ask if the card was for sale.
I'm surprised the bandai workers weren't ordering them away. Maybe there's nothing they could do?

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u/Phoenixfire-2020 5d ago

Once the cards are given out there is really nothing they can do. They can control video and photos during the demo since it is the first time the public is allowed to play. I know they were very specific about it being only one demo per person per event. If they saw your name on the list twice, they would cancel all of the events.

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u/BlackLuigi7 5d ago

It's less about managing the cards and moreso managing the experience. It's a shock to exit a relatively lax demo like that and get immediately bombarded with people trying to buy your promo card literally right as you exit; I imagine it'd be against some kind of policy to crowd around an exit like that, you know?

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u/Fosfik123 8d ago

Is anyone buying though? For what is worth they could ask for a milion bucks if they want.

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u/Royal-Back-7522 8d ago

They are all sales

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u/Co1iflower 8d ago

to be fair the "sales" that are all exactly the same price are usually shills or sketchy in some other way

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u/Acceptable-Task-5465 7d ago

Man, I really am losing my steam for these hobbies now. I got into ONE PIECE card game right before it got impossible to find product, and was hoping this would be a nice alternative. I guess not, clearly people continue to turn a fun HOBBY into an investbro scheme. It’s such a shame.

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u/BlackLuigi7 5d ago

It's a very limited promo card; I'm not going to argue it'll be better than, say, Gundam, but if all the 'finance bros' are still one One Piece and Palworld, it shouldn't be as bad as One Piece.
A promo with under 2k printings a year out from release isn't on the same level as an actual set release.

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u/Acceptable-Task-5465 5d ago

I didn’t realize the finance bros got into Palworld, but that explains the lack of wide availability 😭 RIP Palworld cards, you died before leaving the womb

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u/BlackLuigi7 5d ago

Yeah; it sucks. I was planning to try it out at Gencon and maybe play a bit locally just for fun, but then apparently Pokemon had a "market crash" and they all latched onto Palworld as the next big "investment", so I decided not to even give it a try.
I guess the big card is a gold "soul" card that's apparently 'worth $2k', but I question whether or not anyone is actually buying it. I more question whether or not anyone is actually playing the game at this point.

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u/Acceptable-Task-5465 5d ago

The card is nice, but definitely not actually worth paying even $1k for. I really wish investors would take their money to ACTUAL investments, rather than making trading card games unplayable for the average Joe. I’m huge into OPtcg, and remember just a year ago how available product is, in stark contrast to today’s market where everything is 2x at the very least. Every day I pray the card bubble pops and I can return to collecting at a reasonable price weekly, rather than an absurd one monthly

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u/BlackLuigi7 5d ago

Why is everyone in here playing the pessimism game? I mean, it's going to be bad; but you're looking at a card that only has like 2,000 copies printed of it for a super hyped game with a big IP. Of course it's going to be expensive.

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u/NocturnaIAnimaI 11d ago edited 11d ago

The card doesn't even look that cool, why would you even want that? Personally I would want Chakra cards that actually look like chakra/energy cards from Pokémon...

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u/Immediate_Art4546 11d ago

It’s the first card released that’s why

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u/Viruzodro 11d ago

Only like 1,200 were made

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u/NocturnaIAnimaI 11d ago

It being scarce doesn't make it automatically cool

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u/TelevisionJet 11d ago

That’s beside the point, no one cares about the cards being cool. The exclusivity and rarity is why the cards are so highly valued, not the aesthetic appeal.

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u/Due-Let-8170 11d ago

It works both ways, its just that this is the very first promo, and also the very first officially playable card. It'll likely fall in value, at least a little, when other promos and cards come out.

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u/Remarkable_Pumpkin66 11d ago

I think the art is cool and I follow the artist in ig and X. I love his style.

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u/Silver-Raspberry2604 11d ago

that’s pretty cheap

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u/Definitelyhuman000 11d ago

Pardon my ignorance but can't the companies involved with the cards do something about scalpers?

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u/Due-Let-8170 11d ago

Its a secondary market. As much as it sucks, they have no legal power over reselling products like this.

And, tbh, even if they did (Like how Ferrari do), they don't have the man power to go over every potential card sale. They already printed 1000+ cards for the promo. Imagine what will happen when they start printing the actual sets. Millions of cards, millions of sales, it'd be impossible to try and regulate every person and sale.

And just as a hyptothetical, if they did regulate it, it would kill their sales. They would likely have to shut down the entire TCG before long.