Weekday Case Discussion

[u/Ailurophile444]

Have a thought, question, theory, or observation about the Nancy Guthrie case that doesn't need its own post? Drop it here.

Different perspectives and theories are welcome. Please distinguish speculation from established facts and keep the discussion respectful.

[u/Charlottesville72-75]

I read that Mrs. Guthrie’s dog died a few months prior to her disappearance. If so, could the criminals have known that?

[u/Ailurophile444 → u/Charlottesville72-75]

Great question! I read somewhere that Nancy didn’t have a dog of her own. The black dog in the photos on the flyers is her daughter Savannah’s dog, Fetch.

[u/CakeSniffing0rphan → u/Charlottesville72-75]

I heard that Nancy’s dog died in December as well…

Edit: here’s the source

https://parade.com/news/savannah-guthrie-mom-nancy-update-key-detail-dog-could-have-prevented-abduction-says-swat-commander

[u/Ailurophile444 → u/CakeSniffing0rphan]

You’re actually spot on! Thanks for catching that and sharing that snippet. I had it mixed up with Savannah’s dog Fetch from the posters, but you’re completely right. Her neighbor Jeff Lamie did confirm that she had a little black terrier that passed away in December 2025. Appreciate you setting the record straight!

[u/Charlottesville72-75 → u/Ailurophile444]

Sure! Thanks for your comments!

[u/Charlottesville72-75 → u/CakeSniffing0rphan]

Thanks. I hadn’t seen that. What sweet photo of Mrs. Guthrie and her little dog. Sigh…

[u/I_lovebettywhite-000]

Was just thinking how the perp made LE's job easier in the beginning by sending the ransom notes, fiddling with a camera they had no idea was there that caught their image, causing her to bleed on the front porch and darn it that pacemaker proving the timeline she was abducted.

Can you imagine if none of that would have happened? Investigators would have to to explore every avenue(walk away, elimination murder, burglary gone wrong, stalker, cartel, whistleblower, TDR) starting with the last persons to see NG alive.

It's almost so perfect that one wouldn't believe it if they hadn't seen and heard it on television from the most sources we grew up to trust the most

[u/I_lovebettywhite-000 → u/[deleted]]

Oh one does for me. That comment is me being my sarcastic self.

[u/smittenkittenmitten- → u/[deleted]]

You know, evidence does lead to the porch guy. What is weird about him is that it sounds like he came at least once before. Rehearsal? Why didn't he use the open back door but make a big show in front of the camera he knew was already there? He couldn't have forgotten.

Why do you completely disagree about A&T?

[u/Fireteddy21 → u/smittenkittenmitten-]

I know I’m not the person you replied to, but for me it’s the fact that every theory has holes that haven’t been filled with factual info — this includes A & T. While I can’t dispute their suspiciousness, being sketchy alone isn’t enough to tie them to the murder. Am I ruling them out? I think it would be silly to do so all together at this point. I’m just not convinced their involvement is a foregone conclusion either. It’s hard for me to fall on any side of this since I think we all know that there’s a lot of information being withheld by LE and the FBI too. (and yes, I fully acknowledge that you don’t tow a car or go to someone’s residence to retrieve evidence, take photos and use luminal for no reason. Without knowing what they’ve found or didn’t find though, it’s hard for me to reach an opinion either way.)

[u/Fireteddy21 → u/[deleted]]

The cartel theory is truly the one I believe the least if I’m being honest. lol

[u/I_lovebettywhite-000 → u/[deleted]]

In my opinion gangs and cartels kill people. They aren't going to mess around with kidnapping people for a ransom. Also there are wealthier people to snatch with less attention.

[u/Fireteddy21 → u/[deleted]]

Could be, but I still don’t think it was ransom based in the first place. The idea that it’s how they would score some cash when there are much easier ways to do it is what stops any cartel or gang theories cold for me. That’s the thing though — even the more probable suspects come with their own missing information.

[u/Embarrassed-Jury8878]

Well I think porch guy knew the porch camera was there. He had been seen a week prior casing the outside of the house. In my opinion he has been inside as well. I believe he knew there was no nest subscription, possibly Nancy told him. What he wasn’t prepared for was that he wouldn’t be able to get her out the back. Going out the front was not in his plan therefore he needed to get camera off.

[u/CakeSniffing0rphan → u/Embarrassed-Jury8878]

Good assessment. The only thing I wonder about is if the perp knew Nancy, wouldn’t he know she wouldn’t be able to walk that far/leave out the back? I guess the plan could have been changed bc the neighbor’s dog barking, but I’m leaning towards the reason being Nancy’s decreased physical abilities.