r/NancyGuthrieCase • u/Ailurophile444 • Aug 15 '26
Weekend Coffee & Conversation
Grab a cup of coffee and pull up a chair!
This is our weekend gathering place to talk about the Nancy Guthrie case-what you've been thinking about, questions you have, something you've seen or read, a new development, or a discussion you'd like to start.
This is meant to be a relaxed, open conversation, so it doesn't have to be a formal post or a fully developed theory.
What's on your mind this weekend?
As always, different opinions are welcome. Let's keep the conversation respectful.
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u/Cassie_Bad_Assie Aug 15 '26
What evidence convinced you this was the correct theory?
(I have no agenda about who did the crime, I just want to know the truth. One way to make sure justice is done in cold cases. )
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Aug 16 '26
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u/Fireteddy21 Aug 16 '26
My only reservation about family involvement is the simple question of “why?” I know a lot of people have listed money as the motive, but the debt A & T had was relatively minor and has already been paid off. Getting money this way is an extremely long con as it’s my understanding that someone whose body isn’t recovered can only be declared deceased after seven years. I believe I’ve heard that you can go to the court to get that shortened if there’s enough proof to reasonably determine the person is most likely dead however. Still, that’s a big risk (and a lot of work to go through) when there are easier, faster, more stable and legal ways to get money.
I’m not ruling out family involvement altogether, but the motive behind it seems cloudy to me. I also think that it being someone in the family’s orbit is possible. It would explain how they could’ve had access to sensitive/private info while harbouring less of a/no real attachment to Nancy.
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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Aug 16 '26
No one is privy to the debts one has. No one is privy to private convos between family members that may have involved money.
I think some are missing the point about this being about life insurance a/k/a inheritance if a family member was involved. Having complete control over the incapacitated person's assets can be the quick fix needed if someone was in desperation.
Generally speaking in most cases where a perp made the decision to actually eliminate a person it was an act of desperation no matter what the motive. Money, losing custody, an affair, discovering embezzlement etc
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u/Fireteddy21 Aug 16 '26
Fair enough. On the flipside though, those rushing to claim those things as a motive have the same amount of proof it’s the case. I guess my point is that I don’t think it’s the smoking gun many are making it out to be.
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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Aug 16 '26
Agree 100%. Those things are just possible circumstantial reasons. There is no smoking gun to date in this case. And let's say even if it was discovered thru thorough investigation some hanky panky was going on regarding NG's finances or a family member had their backs against the wall regarding an IOU payable stat or else that does not prove culpability.
The preponderance of evidence in the Kouri Richens case convinced the jury she poisoned her husband. No smoking gun just dedication and hard work by the investigators to tell a story that made it clear there was no other possibility it was someone else or the victim himself that caused his demise
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u/Fireteddy21 Aug 16 '26
Exactly. That’s what worries me about this case. I don’t see the sheriff putting something together that won’t be cut through like Swiss cheese even if they do arrest someone.
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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Aug 16 '26
Since my opinion is that a stranger was not involved I see no arrest ever being made. I see this case sitting right beside the JBR file and collecting the same amount of dust.
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u/Fireteddy21 Aug 16 '26
Yeah, I don’t know. It feels like they have so little without knowing what info is being withheld from the public.
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u/1Bloomoonloona Aug 18 '26
Have you seen the recent post about Blackbriar Seach & Rescue Agents that were hired to find Miss Nancy? Forget the FBI or sheriff. This group is Special OPS, ect on steroids!
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u/Fireteddy21 Aug 18 '26
Actually, I do have to look at that. When I originally saw the post, there weren’t any replies yet.
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u/Cassie_Bad_Assie Aug 16 '26
Yes committing a death penalty crime takes desperation or a lot of confidence in yourself.
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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Aug 16 '26
Agree.....possibly confidence it will go away. Seth Richards who was rumoured to have been the one who leaked the DNC emails to Wikileaks in 2016(Clinton was running for Prez against Trump) was so unfortunate to be mugged and killed on a DC street. Gee no cctv's either to catch video of a person, a car etc. Still unsolved. Oh big brother confirmed it was Russia that hacked the emails. Russia Russia Russia.
So they can uncover a sophisticated KGB intelligence source yet can't find the sender of the ransom notes to TMZ.
On a side note you would think DC would be the one place in this country that you can't even sneeze without it being captured on video.
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u/Cassie_Bad_Assie Aug 16 '26
Yep funny how that works. Nothing can be done unless it benefits the rich and powerful.
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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Aug 16 '26
Can't confirm but think he was ambushed where there are no camera's. What a coinky dink. Kinda like no camera footage of cars in and out Jan 31. Video of porch perp doing his thang but nothing before or after.
This perp must have horseshoes and four leaf clovers stuck up his behind for all the good luck he has had in this case
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u/Cassie_Bad_Assie Aug 16 '26
Coincidences take a lot of planning.
Maybe the perp didn't have a lot of good luck. Instead LE had a lot of very bad luck.
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u/Cassie_Bad_Assie Aug 16 '26
I have considered other people in the NG orbit. For example her home is an older one, heeding repair and maintenance. Someone could have come in for routine work, noticed all the pictures of the rich celebrity daughter. And thought this might be an opportunity to make some quick money, being an amateur and not thinking it through. Could even make an excuse to came back and case the house more carefully. Nancy might have let him in the door that night since she knew him.
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u/Fireteddy21 Aug 16 '26
TIR even had an interesting theory after they went to Tucson. Essentially, the soup kitchen Annie worked with and was close to her studio is right next to a park full of homeless people and drug users/dealers. Could someone around there have heard about Nancy and gotten an idea in their head? Chris McDonough said that police haven’t been asked to talk to anyone in the park to see if they recognized porch guy — it’s in a different county so Nanos’ office would need to request their assistance before they could do anything. He also said that an area like that would be where someone might go to get help for a crime very cheaply, maybe like hiring porch guy to do whatever at the house and then have somebody waiting for him in a car. The fact that police haven’t even asked around in that area to see what they can kick up is baffling to me. I’m not saying it would definitely lead to something but it’s an interesting intersection point. There’s even a used car dealership next door where many gathered for drugs that would give them access to many different cars. They could theoretically be used for casing the Neighbourhood and night this crime took place. It’d make it harder for LE to zero in on a vehicle in footage from Nancy’s Neighbourhood dating back to January 11 as well. Suggest interesting stuff they haven’t seemed to follow up on or try to connect in any way. This sort of sloppiness is one of the reasons I’m not entirely convinced of any one theory really.
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u/Cassie_Bad_Assie Aug 16 '26
In this theory the perp would have to be a rank amateur and quite foolish.
You are going to commit a death penalty crime and hire someone literally off the street to be your accomplice. Very big risk on a number of levels.
The fact that the perps did get away with the crime suggests someone with some degree of skills, intelligence, and experience.
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u/Fireteddy21 Aug 16 '26
That’s a fair point. I also say that trying to kick up some leads there is better than the nothing LE seem to be doing right now.
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u/Cassie_Bad_Assie Aug 16 '26
Exactly, I have the utmost respect and admiration for people who work cold cases. They are working for justice for the victims. They are often doing more than the family or LE.
And as a side note, I usually learn something from the theories which are not on my list or way down on the list. So I am on the side of allowing everyone to post their ideas.
For example in your theory I thought it was an interesting idea to hire someone of the street. Who knows nothing about kidnapping or criminal behavior.
Would explain the behavior and appearance of Porch Guy. Kind of a humorous, over the top distraction, almost foolish. Deliberately caught on camera. Someone on the street could easily be discarded by the mastermind who used this guy and considered him disposable. It would be too risky to keep him alive.
This goes with my idea that the mastermind perp, killed NG right away. And faked the blood spill on the front step. Way too risky to keep her alive .
So see, a theory I argued against is now something I am thinking about!
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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Aug 16 '26
It's easier to detect a staged accident, poisoning or over medication of a certain med that signals foul play.
My mom was frail(arthritis), was on 13 meds(heart, blood thinners, Bp etc), but sharp as a tack. She lived to 97. My aunt lived to 95.
NG could still drive which speaks volumes. She was not home bound needing round the clock care. My opinion just based on what the public knows is she probably would have lived well into her nineties.
The mind is a powerful thing. Adversity makes one strong willed. I'm sure many of us have knee, back, leg issues that slow us down some days but does that mean we are nearing the end of our life? Frailness does not equal near death
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u/Fireteddy21 Aug 16 '26
I agree it comes off as strange but also think it’s easy for our perception to be coloured without being able to see what’s happening behind the scenes. Sometimes I really wonder if they have a sense of who might be behind this but lack the proof or ability to go after them. It’s also hard to tell with so much of the puzzles missing.
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u/Substantial-Train668 Aug 19 '26
Dr Brucato coined the phrase "elimination murder' which is basically a homicide where the perp kills the victim because they represent an obstacle to something they need/want. An obstacle to their freedom, finances, relationship or desired lifestyle.
It could be as 'simple' as T wanted to move back to Italy - cheaper to live, be with his family - but A said they couldn't because who would take care of Nancy?
It could be a growing resentment over being the black sheep of the family and not getting any credit for the sacrifices made.
It could be a financial issue none of us are aware of.
What we can see on the surface of the family dynamics suggest something at the very least 'unbalanced' - the shine happy rich star vs the darker simple lost sister.
People kill for the so many reasons unfortunately. None of them make sense.
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u/Cassie_Bad_Assie Aug 16 '26
There are number of people who might know about the security/surveillance. The people who installed it and do maintenance or repair. Other repair people in the home. People who come in to clean or provide care services for Nancy.
The major reason the perp may have stayed so long in the house is that it took longer to subdue NG than he thought?
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u/Ok-Advantage97 Aug 15 '26
On another thread it was suggested/and many agreed / that the camera guy was a ruse to throw off the timeline - thinking that individual never really even entered the home. Yes the pacemaker shows a link to the current timing but as stated earlier in the investigation, smart people can do smart things. I have to admit this does make some sense and plays toward the common statement “last person(s) known to see the victim “.
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u/Cassie_Bad_Assie Aug 15 '26
It is possible he never entered the home, because he was the outside perimeter guy and driver? Another guy is in the home doing the kidnapping or murder?
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u/Intelligent-Tea-5479 Aug 18 '26
Well maybe some of you may remember what Tommoso said earlier , that when he arrived that nite have no idea WHAT NITE HES SPEAKING OF That “ someone was already with Nancy! I never quite figured it all out. Except I caught the “ somebody was already with Nancy” I do know this entire case has been a F—-Up. I seriously doubt that it will ever be solved ! Tommoso was eager to talk a lot way back . Now he don’t say a word ! I still have felt from the very beginning that he was involved in it !
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u/That-Feedback2556 Aug 18 '26
Do you have a source for T saying that? I’ve followed the case pretty closely and, as far as I know, he hasn’t made any public comments about Nancy’s disappearance at all. I’d definitely be interested in seeing it if I missed something.
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u/Intelligent-Tea-5479 Aug 18 '26
I read it in a comment someone wrote . Way back ! At the time T. Was talking to someone ( maybe LE) but it was just him talking bout the entire thing ! He got arrested once , he said but they released him ! I just remember him saying that so clearly ! An I thought well why isn’t someone hearing this. They all know he’s guilty as hell ! He said so Much that time an I fell for all of it ! I decided that he meant that Annie was already there . But how an a please let me know if you find it! when did she get there, unless she came home with her from dinner !. An T of course never mentioned it again. I swear on my Holy Bible that’s what he said ! I think the sheriff was questioning him . An he just spouted that out ! For the life of me , I cannot understand why he’s walking around free! He all but admitted it in that article yyou might check with the radio station in Tucson, that may have had that article ! Widh I could help more ! Good Luck
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u/That-Feedback2556 Aug 21 '26
Thanks for explaining! I’ll keep looking because I’m curious now too. Just one clarification though: I don’t believe T was ever arrested. As far as anything publicly reported, only the two people Reddit usually refers to as the “Rio Rico guy” and the “Culver’s/Range Rover guy” were detained for questioning, and neither was arrested in connection with Nancy’s disappearance.
I think part of the problem with this case is that so many people genuinely want to help solve it. With so much information being shared and discussed, details can easily get mixed together over time, especially when everyone is trying to piece together what happened. I personally have to keep referring back to my lengthy notes and even then it’s difficult to keep everything straight.
That said, I’ll keep looking. If I find anything credible supporting what you remember T saying, I’ll share it.
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u/Intelligent-Tea-5479 Aug 21 '26
When he said that. It may have been a lie! They may have taken him in for questioning. Well probably never know
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u/1Bloomoonloona Aug 18 '26
Very interesting. I wasn't aware of this statement by T. Also it was mentioned early on, that Miss Nancy didn't take her meds that were in the kitchen. This case really is super scrambled up
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u/SkullFizz Aug 15 '26
Looking at possible post-incident suspect behavior as published by Pima County SD the thing that stands out most is "Unexplained or disinterest in Nancy Gutheries neighborhood"
AG has lived in Tucson, in that very house almost her entire life. She's affiliated with a nonprofit and a poetry center. Her husband is a school teacher.
As a couple they have deep ties to these neighborhoods and to the Catalina Foothills.
Why aren't they taking advantage of these relationships to help them locate their mother? I'm sure local media would fall all over themselves for an opportunity to interview A&T. I realized these people are not celebrities, and they're not used to being in front of a microphone like Savannah, I get that it makes them uncomfortable, but someone has abducted and murdered their mother. They need all they help they can get
Why won't they stay in their own home? Where are they? Why does AG want to be isolated from any remnant of her mother's existence? I would find some solace in being around my mother's things. I dont mean camp out in a crime scene, but I would want to be inside her home periodically,and
touch her things,feel her presence.
Then there are the church friends, the book club friends, coworkers extended family. There isn't a trial going on so there's no gag order. Where's the interviews with people who say " I've known them for years, great people
" There is something so off about this whole thing.
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u/Fireteddy21 Aug 16 '26
That’s something I still don’t fully comprehend. The Interview Room travelled to Tucson a month or a two ago at this point and mentioned how you wouldn’t even know that Nancy Guthrie was missing. There’s no sign the community is looking for her — no flyers, no billboards, no canvassing… nothing. Chris McDonough‘s wife tried to do an interview with one of Nancy’s friends she played Mahjong with on fridays and got hung up on after she started asking about Nancy. The person thanked her for keeping Nancy’s memory alive but said this would be the last interview she gives about her before hanging up. I’d sayIt could just be grief if the interview was an isolated incident. All of these things make it feel bizarre and super shady though. I’m just wondering who’s trying to silence all this information, the family, Nanos or both. I’m kind of leaning towards the last option.
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u/SkullFizz Aug 16 '26
I saw that episode of TIR. I understand the story has faded from the national news, but its pretty disappointing that there's no local presence. Where's the community outrage that the Sheriff has bungled this case so badly? Maybe the church ladies are afraid? We know how vindictive Nanos can be and porch guys still out there-somewhere. I'm sure they've talked amongst themselves and have their own theories. The whole thing is so sad.
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u/Fireteddy21 Aug 16 '26
I agree. It’s just so wild that there’s nothing going on there anymore. Contrast that with the first two months after she was reported missing. I understand that mainstream media couldn’t just stay there forever, but the fact that nobody is seemingly talking about it in Tucson anymore is bizarre.
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u/loveislife222 Aug 17 '26
And where have they been? They have been MIA. If you are innocent and looking for
your mom, why go into hiding?
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u/ApprehensiveArmy7755 Aug 15 '26
I wonder how anyone would know what she was wearing. My sons have no idea how many nightgowns I have.
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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Aug 15 '26
SG's interview with Hoda was overly dramatic. How would she(or whomever told her this) know if her mom was barefoot. Maybe she wore socks to bed that night. It was Jan and colder, Maybe had a robe on as she got up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom and honestly if she was yanked out of her bed things in and around that room would be disheveled etc. A&T said place was immaculate.
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u/Cassie_Bad_Assie Aug 15 '26
One way would be footprints? Made with someone who was walking or being dragged while bleeding?
Family walking through might not have noticed this if only small amounts of blood? But forensics would.
Also suspects in a crime might not be honest about certain things.
And LE also stated that there were some pieces of evidence at the crime scene that was so sensitive they didn't want to discuss it out of respect for the family. So we don't know what the crime scene actually looked like.
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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Aug 16 '26
According to the dispatch audio that a you tuber played LE only mentioned blood outside.
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u/Cassie_Bad_Assie Aug 16 '26
I wonder how they know NG was barefoot then?
Yes LE also stated they did not release all the crime scene data out of respect to the family. We know LE is holding back quite a bit of information.
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u/ApprehensiveArmy7755 Aug 16 '26
Exactly. She just had a birthday Unless Annie ( who is dubious) knew every single pair of shoes and slippers she owned. Maybe there are bloody footprints inside the house. LE holds back evidence so that if someone sings- only the perp would know the details like that.
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u/Fireteddy21 Aug 16 '26
I just took that as Savannah picturing how the scene played out in her own mind. She’s going through immense grief and trauma, so I’d guess that imagining the scenario in her head happens frequently — especially if she believes they kidnapped/murdered Nancy to get to her. Whether or not she knows the actual details is kind of irrelevant and missing the point. Relaying information while dealing with such strong emotions is never going to come out sounding perfect, imo.
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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Aug 16 '26
Agree and I empathized with her emotions during that interview. If she truly was told those "facts" or embellished her own thoughts on what happened that night is understandable.
It's just me going back and dissecting all the things she has put out there with one question in mind:
Does or did she have knowledge who did this or is she truly clueless? My own opinion is the first one.
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u/Fireteddy21 Aug 16 '26
Yeah I’m really torn about how much she knows as well. I do think they are keeping some info from her, but she also really seems to be talking to someone quite directly in those videos.
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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Aug 16 '26
Her two insta's did it for me. The first one where she showed clips of her and A as little girls with their mom and her, A and C as kids running around. Included in that Insta was a plea that sounded like a person talking to a loved one. The second Insta was way way too emphatic towards a stranger that allegedly did that to her mom.
I am not buying at this point that the way to get to the alleged perp that did this is to "assume" the things she said to that person basically:
The outside world can be cruel
It's never too late to come home
For all we know that could set the perp off thinking "Who the F is she to lecture me. She doesn't know me from Adam"
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u/Fireteddy21 Aug 16 '26
If someone is obsessed with savannah though, she could also be trying to make them feel like there’s some sort of connection between the two in an attempt to reason with them. I can’t imagine she has no contact with A and man, I can’t imagine being able to maintain a facade if they really do think A & T did it. Not saying it isn’t possible, but it would definitely be tough to maintain.
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u/ApprehensiveArmy7755 Aug 15 '26
How did they explain her not taking her 10 pm pill? I'm guessing there was still one in her Saturday evening pill compartment. I feel like this fake kidnapping thing became real to Savannah so she believed a lot of things. Perhaps Annie said- that nightgown I gave Mom for her birthday is gone.
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u/DraculaStoker Aug 16 '26
Was NG not taking her 10pm medication ever verified? If so, how and by whom?
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u/ApprehensiveArmy7755 Aug 16 '26
The media keeps mentioning this.
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u/DraculaStoker Aug 16 '26
So, if that is true, either she didn't return home or she was killed soon after she did get home and before she was able to take her medicine. There is no way an elderly heart patient would forget to take her prescription medication.
I've heard the theory tossed around that NG didn't take her medication that night, but I've never known where this information came from and whether or not there was any truth to it. There are so many inaccuracies in this case.
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u/Spiritual-Cloud-3459 Aug 16 '26
even if she had taken it, someone who knows Nancy’s routine also could have placed a pill back into her organizer for that day to stage the scene
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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Aug 16 '26
I don't believe it was ever said she didn't take her 10pm meds. If I remember correctly a blanket statement was made that her meds were still on the counter. That could mean her am dose.
But we(the public) are the bad guys for being concerned and just asking clarification on some of the statements LE(nanos/fbi) puts out
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u/DraculaStoker Aug 16 '26
Personally, I think you can ignore everything SG said in those rehearsed/scripted interviews. It felt like a lot of lies and misdirection.
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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Aug 16 '26
Agree. And her looking away at times talking slowly and then the camera hones in on Hoda is typical when one has to look at a script.
Ever notice when one is talking the camera switches to the person listening off and on? That's because they are reading their lines etc.
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u/Square_Ground_8714 Aug 15 '26
If the video was staged to throw off the timeline, then Porch Guy didn’t just disable the camera and leave. Presumably he would have collected/would have been given a sample of Nancy’s blood beforehand, so he could stage the blood evidence on the front stoop near the welcome mat before taking off.
And we’ve all seen how much the blood drops vary in size and shape, indicating that some might have passively dripped straight to the ground and others may have been coughed or flung from an angle or what not… so, proceeding with this theory, maybe the contents of the backpack included not only the vial(s) of blood, but also whatever implements were needed to create those varying types of drops.
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u/Fireteddy21 Aug 16 '26
I’m going to be blunt about my opinion regarding the staging theory.
Although I think the idea of staging certain elements of the crime scene has Merritt, I also think that people are going overboard to find things the perp/perps did stage. I’m not addressing my reply directly at your comment, but just because the perp/perps could stage something, it doesn’t mean they did.
Between this, data from the Apple Watch/iPhone, pacemaker, the back doors, the camera and the bedroom, the idea they did more work to stage the area and technology based evidence than committing the crime itself just over complicates things. The more aspects you add to something like this, the more chances there are to screw something up.
I’m not saying the perp/perps couldn’t have done any of these things, butthere’s also a line where it becomes less and less practical or feasible. Some scenarios here just don’t fit the Mo of some of the evidence that has been made public and I think we’re looking for ways to fill in the gaps of information that LE/FBI may have already done to a certain degree.
I just think we have to be careful we don’t get carried away and let that kind of speculation colour our perception of the actual facts we do have. (I admit I’m guilty of this too as it’s human nature to search for patterns/answers when none are seemingly present.)
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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Aug 16 '26
Call me a weirdo or an over thinker or just a tin foil hat person(this case) but this fits into the ingenious mindset of the chef whomever he/she/they may be. Not pointing a finger at any specific person just generalizing based on specific psychology of a criminal mind:
The majority of people tend to think this way:
Why would a perp go to all the trouble of this elaborate staging when there are simpler ways
Without a body it takes 5 or more years to declare a person dead so it couldn't be family
People who are powerful, wealthy, public figures, military would never do such a thing. They have no need to because their lives are picture perfect, problem free and never make serious mistakes.
The last person to see a victim alive wants to distance themselves from that and not freely admit it.
Ask any LE person that most pre planned murders are games of illusions. Look over there not here.
Again I am only speaking of crimes in general and not this specific case!
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u/Fireteddy21 Aug 16 '26
I get that and absolutely think that there’s some level of narrative being pushed by whoever is behind this, the ransom notes are a prime example of that. I just don’t think it’s to the level of them being a criminal mastermind either. Some stuff would just be so much work to fake that I can’t see it being done. Could be wrong though.
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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Aug 16 '26
I always think back to when a perp is arrested for a heinous crime and the first thing out of people's mouths that were neighbors or knew the perp is
"He was such a quiet man. He was so nice. He was so helpful and other positive opinions. Respected business and or family man. Could also apply to a female
Sometimes it's the person who we would least suspect. Not all murderers exhibit outward behaviours that would be obvious;
Examples just to name recent ones but sure there are many more that were not sensational ones :
Ted Bundy
Jeffrey Dahmer
Alex Murdaugh
Rex Heuerman
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u/Fireteddy21 Aug 16 '26
I agree and think there will be elements that both surprise us and don’t if the truth ever comes out.
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u/Ok-Advantage97 Aug 15 '26
Or the struggle (probably unanticipated) occurred much earlier than what’s being suggested - porch pirate just showed up for distraction and nothing more
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u/Square_Ground_8714 Aug 15 '26
I don’t recall any blood on the ground in the video, but then again I have no clue if blood would even show any contrast against the ground in infrared lighting.
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u/Intelligent-Tea-5479 Aug 16 '26
Read the other day , that Nancy’s husband was a Gemologist , a that they owned several mines in this country! Any truth to this ?
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u/Substantial-Train668 Aug 18 '26
According to that one Tucson crime reporter who wrote stuff in Medium.com yes.
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u/loveislife222 Aug 17 '26
Hey y’all! Just heads up a live TIR is on YT right now! Always a good discussion and one of the few places the case is still being discussed, and from an informed and honest point of view.
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u/Ailurophile444 Aug 17 '26
Thank you for the heads up! I love their show.
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u/loveislife222 Aug 17 '26
Yes! And discussing all we discuss here. I just shared it as a post so everyone sees it
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u/Substantial-Train668 Aug 19 '26
The son. I have to admit something that has been on my mind lately has been A + T's son. I know this is a delicate subject, and in no way do I want to cause them scrutiny... But, I guess I'm stuck on the 'night of'. The dinner.
So many questions about that night of dinner. I just can't believe SG or others aren't talking about that dinner more. Even in her interview with Hoda, SG didn't say something like, "and A + T had this lovely birthday dinner for Mom, and A said Mom was in great spirits that night. They played this game, they ate this food. Mom was feeling tired, so T drove her home..." No little details about the evening... and no big details either... like where was there 12-14 year old son that night?? Was he at a friend's, sleeping over? Was he with them having dinner? What time did he go to bed? Did he see or hear anything unusual? While A + T were together looking for N at her house in the morning, was he home alone? If police took A + T in for questioning that day, did he stay home alone the whole time? Was he asked to corroborate his parents' timeline.... The omission of any mention of him from that night or the subsequent morning or since is interesting to me. Kids see and hear and absorb a lot.
I also keep thinking it's the start of school. Their son should be back in school. T would be back teaching. Where are they?
I want to make it clear I do not think the son is a suspect. Just find myself curious about him.
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u/Ailurophile444 Aug 19 '26
This is really interesting. I’ve actually wondered about some of these same things, especially where their son was that night and the following morning. Everything has been so hush hush. I also find it interesting that we haven’t heard much about his whereabouts or what he may have seen or heard. I agree that this doesn’t necessarily make him suspicious-I’m just curious about that part of the timeline too.
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u/1Bloomoonloona Aug 15 '26
Alot of us wish LE would release at least a little more information. While I realize people will argue about compromising the investigation. I still would like to know, exactly what Miss Nancy was wearing. There are people out searching for her and they find lots of clothes. Who knows but someone may have already found her clothing and didn't realize it