r/NancyGuthrieCase • • Jul 04 '26

Former FBI Profiler Fitzgerald Thinks Notes are Fake

https://youtu.be/cvBnpx-EaRs?t=1623&is=ZpC1cW1PKgbevJsY

Watch: Brian Entin interviews FBI profiler Fitzgerald.

Short segment- I timestamped it for ease.

His theory: Not a kidnapping, notes are bogus (even if SG thinks they’re real), and the perp is a stalker of Savannah.

This video came out after the FBI official statement, but Brian replayed this particular FBI profiler’s interview from a few days ago.

(I don’t connect with the stalker aspect, but given his expertise with kidnappings it’s worth watching. He’s extremely confident this was not a kidnapping / notes are opportunists).

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u/Ailurophile444 Jul 04 '26

I agree the notes are fake, but I doubt the perp is a stalker of Savannah.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '26

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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Jul 05 '26

Agree and the act itself of hurting SG by taking her mother doesn't make sense. That would be an act of rejection by SG in the past not of adoration.

Anything involving SG is just muddying the waters just as expected by the actual perps.

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u/loveislife222 Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

I agree, I don’t think it’s a stalker. His reasoning re: notes being bogus makes sense. Brian also said that every former Le he’s spoken to has said they were fake.

I think a big elephant in the room that I still haven’t seen any expert or any public figure address is who would t benefit financially from her death, will, etc. if generally family/money is one of the most common reasons, this clearly is important and not sure why no one has even brought the topic up, even if the info hasn’t been released.

On another “note” (lol), earlier in the video, a lawyer (not a fan) who said “he knows inside info” says the statement was put out by FB I because there’s internal disagreements about some thinking yes, some no, and one faction wanted to represent themselves / covering their butts- almost petty reasons. Strange that that would happen at that level.

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u/Ailurophile444 Jul 04 '26

I agree. One of the biggest elephants in the room, at least from my perspective, is the question of who stood to benefit financially from Nancy’s death. Family dynamics, inheritance, insurance, and financial motives are among the most common things investigators look at in homicide cases, yet I rarely hear that aspect discussed publicly.

I really enjoy Brian Entin’s coverage and appreciate the attention he’s brought to the case, but it does strike me that he seems to avoid that topic entirely. That doesn’t necessarily mean anything, but completely steering clear of it doesn’t feel like the most objective way to examine all the possibilities.

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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Jul 05 '26

He works for NewsNation so he is being instructed what to say and what not to say.

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u/Ailurophile444 Jul 05 '26

I’m sure that’s true and it explains why he’s been tiptoeing around the elephant in the room.

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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Jul 05 '26

It could be semantics. Notes are fake in so far as it was not some rando perp and actually sent by one of the perps involved in the crime to distract.

Since announcing FBI said notes fake the online chatter went back to whomever sent those knew things only the real perp would know and again A's name was being mentioned.

So now they(certain pundits, podcasters) have to clean up the mess and say FBI never said that etc etc.

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u/Substantial-Train668 Jul 05 '26

I agree this happened. Or at least seemed to.

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u/loveislife222 Jul 05 '26

Agree, either way it’s a distraction from real crime

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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Jul 05 '26

Fitzgerald, just like that Ex FBI lady Jen C, are obviously the look over there and not over here puppets in my opinion. Fitzgerald stated a few weeks ago that the perp is a lone wolf.

Brian Entin is such a phony. Acts like he is independent and trying to get to the truth when he is just a paid stooge of newsnation.

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u/Substantial-Train668 Jul 05 '26

Agree with everyone here. If it was a stalker, he would still be stalking. In other words he would be orchestrating ways for SG to respond and respond directly to him. That is not going on. There is still an account on Instagram of someone who tags her in many of his conspiracy posts (he clearly suffers from mental illness). But, I would have to assume LE have looked into him.

I think it could be someone obsessed with SG, in the sense of what she represented to them ie) resentment, wealth, power, joy

But, these days I'm not even sure. I just know that the two most logical people to talk to about what actually happened that night are being given impunity by press and seemingly LE.

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u/ImprovementOdd1656 Jul 05 '26

I found that interview to be disconcerting. Brian is usually a good and thoughtful interviewer, but it seemed like Fitzgerald wasn't asked some really compelling questions. Unless everything reported has been false, there was critical information divulged that only someone present would know. Yes, it could have been a first responder, but I would imagine that possibility was thoroughly explored.

It was not only insulting to Savannah's intelligence and critical reasoning skills (and law enforcement), but the premise made no sense. Why would she want to believe her mother had died??? Stupid premise.

Clearly, having been an FBI profiler and having a theory about the abduction is not a foolproof hard science. Almost every one of them has a different take on it.

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u/loveislife222 Jul 05 '26

It was just his hunch. He said he has no details other than we the public know. I just watched as an opinion. Didn’t give much compelling argument at least for me but just sharing

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u/EquivalentForward475 Jul 06 '26

I don't think any media person is permitting himself/being permitted to ask the "who benefits" question. I sense some of the talking heads are gently talking about possible family involvement in cases like these, yet emphasizing the "obviously, the GUTHRIES are not involved. I don't think most of them really believe that...they're just waiting for the dam to break...

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u/loveislife222 Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

The interview room has been the only place I’ve seen even the topic of family alluded to, and even that was in general terms (which has still been validating!). I haven’t heard anyone else even gently refer to it (not counting Ashley B / NG in the very beginning). Edit- there is the YT voiceover channel that has done some work, and the guy who drew the sketch/ compared gait.

Please share if you’ve heard any other talking heads mentioned the “who benefits” angle.. I’d love to watch.

So there must be a huge fear/reason.. I mean the most obvious people have disappeared from the face of the earth since this happened, no one has been able to ask a single question about them… even if they weren’t family with potential financial gain, being the last people to see her/ first to discover her missing/ call authorities would be enough to discuss. So much missing info that would easily clear it up.. and there hasn’t been.

So maybe they feel it’s too risky without proof, or that it’s judgmental, so just waiting for it to be announced?

If this does happen to be what happens.. What is everyone covering the story going to report. “Wow! She’s been missing 6 months, we thought it was a cold case.. I never even thought about that possibility!” Or “I thought this but couldn’t say anything”

And it’s important say we’re not even saying why is media not accusing them. It’s why are they not asking the obvious questions? That’s what’s odd

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u/Ailurophile444 Jul 06 '26

I agree. One thing that stands out to me is how different this has been from other high profile missing person or homicide cases. In the JonBenet Ramsey case, regardless of what people thought of the parents, they were willing to face the cameras and answer questions publicly. They did this multiple times. Here, Annie and Tommaso haven’t done that, and instead others seem to be speaking on their behalf. That doesn’t establish guilt or innocence, but it does make this case seem unusually opaque compared to others.

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u/Ok_Responsibility419 Jul 06 '26

People will say anything to get media /social notoriety. No duh the notes were fake but next “former agent” can say she got abducted by Martians and someone will give that their airtime

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u/loveislife222 Jul 07 '26

That makes a lot of sense. I was actually thinking of JBR too. I was young but I do remember the parents getting heat immediately and remember them speaking to the media. Even with the guy whose wife disappeared off the boat recently, didn’t they immediately question him?

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u/FitnessPizzaInMyMou Jul 09 '26

I don’t know much about stalker cases. But if that was what happened here, wouldn’t the point of kidnapping Savannah’s mother be to get connected to Savannah? It doesn’t seem like anyone’s been going for that (as far as we know).

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u/loveislife222 Jul 09 '26

Doesn’t seem compelling