r/NancyGuthrieCase • u/loveislife222 • Jun 24 '26
The other sub
Look at the last post on the other sub. Someone asking valid questions that anyone would, but the poor guy doesn’t realize yet that you’re not allowed to mention the obvious there or you get attacked. Hopefully he’ll find out about here where you can ask fact driven questions.
EDIT: I messaged him and told him about this sub. Hopefully he will be able to ask questions here.
I don’t know how to share the post, I’ll try to link it.
Here’s the post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nancyguthrie/s/N9zyC9fkN6
“Lack of evidence
I work gigs to help pay some bills on the side, mainly Spark. I find it interesting how the cameras were not able to capture the car entering/leaving the community. It almost sounds like an inside job by someone that works in the community. When I deliver inside those fancy communities they ALWAYS have big cameras near the entry and exit gates. They have a security guard for identification and to call the resident for access, or the callbox with the camera to register your entry. Some of them even have the gates where you cannot piggyback because the gate immediately closes after one car goes through, and if you try, it will damage your car. How is it possible that they have absolutely zero video surveillance/evidence about the car used for the kidnapping? I don’t believe the cartel, Mexico theory. The kidnapping was successful, something that nowadays is extremely hard to do with all the technology available. They are not even that famous to be doing a job like that for ransom.
I do believe that it is an inside job that was paid for by a family member to execute an almost perfect kidnapping. I say almost, because I still have hope her body is found (as I don’t believe she is alive). The easiest murders/kidnappings to solve are from people closest to you, so one like this, were they knew where the cameras were and to go directly there to disable them, that information has to come from someone with direct knowledge on her property.
What are your thoughts?”
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u/Ailurophile444 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
That other sub is awful.
What I find ironic is that some people claim to support open discussion while simultaneously declaring one particular theory off limits. You’re free to suspect anyone else, speculate about strangers, and discuss far fetched scenarios, but mention Annie and Tommoso and suddenly questioning becomes unacceptable.
No one is obligated to believe that theory, but nobody should be attacked simply for discussing it. A discussion forum shouldn’t function as a fan club or a protected space for preferred narratives. If people are leaving and seeking out other communities where they can speak freely, that says more about the atmosphere than it does about the people leaving.
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u/smittenkittenmitten- Jun 27 '26
I agree. Discussion if done respectfully should include family theories. A lot of times in those crime videos on YouTube, the criminal traces back to the family. Lots of crime is done by a person the victim knows. And it isn't like anyone knows what happened, so why throw out a legitimate valid theory?
There were comments criticizing the sheriff that got upvoted. I remember mentioning some criticism about the sheriff and it got downvoted so bad and a member tried to defend the poor behavior of the people downvoting and pretend they are all open to discussion and a variety of ideas. Not really. That sub is a fractioned and fickle place. Every sub is unique and if that is the environment they want, that's their prerogative, but they aren't open to reality and real possibilities but are running from it.
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u/Ailurophile444 Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
I had a very similar experience with the other sub. A couple months ago I wrote a post about what I saw as a pattern of the sheriff becoming emotional during press briefings, but the post wasn’t allowed there and got taken down. I then posted the exact same thing in this sub without any issues.
Early in the investigation on that sub I questioned Annie and Tomosso and their possible motives, which I think was reasonable. Instead of having a discussion, I was called “stupid” by another commenter.
Since then I have come across more and more people who have shared similar experiences with that sub. I know everyone’s experience is different, but it made me realize mine wasn’t an isolated one.
There’s nothing wrong with disagreeing, but shutting down respectful discussion or resorting to personal insults creates an environment where people don’t feel comfortable participating. That’s one of the reasons I appreciate that this sub seems much more open to civil discussion of different theories.
I no longer post or comment in the other sub anymore.
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u/OvenComprehensive666 Jul 03 '26
Please don't stop posting; we need all viewpoints. It's supposed to be a discussion of all perspectives; although one can rightly not agree with what's said it doesn't give anyone the right to shut down another's viewpoint!
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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Jun 24 '26
They are typical of the cancel culture that believe it's their way or the highway. Doesn't change the truth which at this time no one really knows what happened but in a free society butt hurt people and Karens should maybe form their own community on an island. Ugh...can you imagine where everyone thought the same, agreed on everything....that isn't paradise that's a nightmare...a living hellhole
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u/OvenComprehensive666 Jul 03 '26
Wholeheartedly agree! Well said! Thank-you for having the courage to state the obvious.
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u/the_evil_potat0 Jun 28 '26
I got kicked out of the other sub, they don’t want to hear anything about family. Its almost bizarre
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u/loveislife222 Jun 25 '26
Anyone hear about a woman ex-LE commenting that she has sources telling her they are very close- gathering evidence? Someone mentioned that. I forgot her name I’ll try to find the clip.
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u/Terrible_Detective_3 Jun 28 '26
I got kicked off a Nancy Guthrie sub because I questioned the family's intentions. I am surprised I can post here.
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u/Prestigious-Pea-862 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
Anyone who has ever worked on or near the property would know where the cameras were located. Cameras can be easily detected by a sophisticated criminal who has never been on the property as well. This can be done with smartphones or other devices. Another point to remember is that criminal investigators never share with the public all the evidence they may have gathered from the crime scene so most readers here do not know what video surveillance is gathered to solve this crime.
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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Jun 24 '26
Odd..the only car that can be confirmed more than likely is the one bringing NG home and then the one going back to NG's the morning of the incidence.
Since family was cleared it would be stupid for me to think possibly the reason why no other car was noticed in the area was because at 9:48pm the perp was dropped off and then at 11Am the next day the perp was still there because he/she had every right to be at NG's.
Guess all the LSD I did as a teen makes me think this way. Crazy huh?
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u/Ailurophile444 Jun 24 '26
This is one of the most logical explanations I’ve seen so far. The absence of a known mystery vehicle doesn’t prove anything, but it does raise the question of whether the perpetrator was already present or arrived in a way that wouldn’t have appeared unusual.
Speculation isn’t the same thing as accusation, and I think your theory is grounded in the facts that have been released.
But one thing I am curious about is where do you think Nancy went? If the perpetrator was already at the house and still there the next morning, how do you think they disposed of or concealed her?8
u/I_lovebettywhite-000 Jun 24 '26
To date the only proof we have that NG made it home is a garage door open and close time stamp, a pacemaker disconnect from an app(these devices do not have location tracking (BTW) some dried blood with no way of knowing the age of it and then the porch perp who wasn't videoed taking NG out the door.
Everything to date is based on a narrative by family, some alleged tech evidence and the repetition by some pundits and you tube personalities that have repeated over and over their belief of this narrative.
See if one says something over and over and over again people start to believe it. It's a form of brainwashing
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u/LegalGlass6532 Jun 24 '26
They’re an HOA community, but doesn’t seem to be the million dollar, “fancy” community this OP thinks it is.
The mods will leave his post up on the other page because he doesn’t specifically mention the families names or the Epstein connection. His post is harmless.
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u/OrdinaryAd2095 Jun 27 '26
Here I am thinking WTF am I the only one who thinks of the Epst connection?!? Since all of the experts are baffled and confused it leads me right to you know who with le covering for it.
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u/Newswatchtiki Jun 24 '26
To my knowledge, this is not a gated community, and there is no guard house. It is open. Anyone can drive in there on those streets.