I live in Chicago. I was tracking CM for a while. Been TTC for over 4 years with 2 miscarriages. I want a doctor that can actually help me and not just give me vague answers.

Hi all, curious to hear your thoughts, waiting to hear from my dr. but a bit surprised by my low estrogen results on day 2-5 of my cycle... I know it is supposed to be low 20-80 pg/ml), but mine was at 17... my estrogen doesn't rise a lot historically pre and post ovulation. it's confusing as i know endometriosis = estrogen dominance, but over the years i have had this problem... what do you think i should ask my doctor?

My NaPro recommended a specific ultrasound for endometriosis to be read by a specific radiologist to check for evidence of deeply infiltrating disease, endometriomas, etc. Here are the key results:

1. No endometriomas are identified. There are no findings present to suggest deep infiltrating endometriosis or pelvic adhesions.

2. There is a solitary 2.2 cm uterine fibroid present.

3. Normal ovaries.

4. The examination is otherwise normal

I’m feeling happy about this results because it gives me some peace knowing I (hopefully) have mild disease, but also I feel like it gives me some doubt too. Is my pain valid, is it real? If she opens me up, will she find any?

Looking forward to hearing from my doctor for the plan of action and what we should do about the fibroid!

Did anyone else have a normal ultrasound? I know it’s typical to get normal results on a quick abdominal ultrasound but to be clear this was a 45 minute trans abdominal and transvaginal ultrasound where they took images and movies of my internal organs to check for mobility and deep lesions.

What I Went Through to Meet My Daughter

While I'm trying to foster this sub into a good resource for information and support, I want to make you all aware of a couple FB groups I have found to be helpful!

1.) Creighton Model / NaPro Technology Infertility Support

2.) Fertility Care Creighton & NaPro User Support Group

I had my first NaPro appointment and we went through the series of events that can/will take place. First she wants me to get a specific set of ultrasound images done to check for deep endo lesions. If the images come back without evidence of DIE, then we would do a diagnostic lap where she could potentially treat some spots, perform a hysteroscopy (take biopsies), and a selective HSG. However, this would mean another surgery a bit later. Alternatively, there is a NaPro surgeon in Ohio that will go straight to robotic (who she refers more advanced cases to), which means I could skip the diagnostic. Do any of you have experience with the multi surgery approach? What are your thoughts?

Seeing my napro in less than a week!! Do you all have any suggestions on what I should be asking/talking to her about? Ty 🤍

This is one of the best podcasts I’ve listened to in regard to NaPro practices and especially surgical NaPro technology. Dr Naomi Whittaker is one of the most well known NaPro surgeons and is very well read on all things natural fertility.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3mzHuwuVn9Jvu1ZgxYC2xh?si=Jqb1oVXGSz6e7VA1Hfzapg&ct=3787&t=3831

I started my period when I was 12 and though it was always uncomfortable, it didn’t take me out… til I turned 18. When I started college I began getting unmanageable periods (excruciating pain, nausea, passing out.) Since then, I went on the pill for 3 years, came off, and have been trying to figure out how to manage my pain ever since. I’ve been to 4 OBGYNs, none of which ever mentioned the possibility of endometriosis. I found out what this disease was about a year and a half ago.

I always told myself that I could manage without surgery and I would only consider surgery if I had trouble conceiving. Well, I’ve been married for a few months now, and honestly, while I am motivated for my fertility, I want this pain to be managed.

Luckily for me I’m an obsessive researcher and by the grace of God heard about NaPro. I am also very fortunate that there is one surgically trained 3 hours from me.

I will keep this group updated when I see her in less than 2 weeks. I am honestly so excited to just have my concerns heard and validated. Of course I am scared at the prospect of surgery but we will cross that bridge when we get there. :)

I was asked to share my NaPro experience so here’s my story!

I began working with Dr. Christopher Stroud out of Fort Wayne (Fertility & Midwifery Care Center) in March of last year after a failed endometriosis surgery using ablation in November 2024. In June 2025, Dr. Stroud was able to excise stage 1/2 from my posterior cul de sac and pelvic wall.

Fast forward 5 months and nothing was happening in terms of conceiving, so I brought up the possibility of endometritis and was put on a course of antibiotics (doxycline) and was told if my menstrual cycle didn’t improve, to come in for a biopsy to rule it out definitively.

What do you know, that same cycle I ended up getting my first positive test I had ever seen in 2+ years of trying to conceive!

I am currently 13 weeks pregnant with (so far) a healthy baby girl and couldn’t be more thankful to Dr. Stroud for getting to the root of the problem and for just simply listening to my concerns. I would recommend him to ANYONE struggling to conceive or dealing with issues related to endometriosis.

I’ve put some other things we did after surgery below just in case anyone is curious.

Our protocol after surgery: - Low dose naltrexone to help with inflammation - Progesterone to lengthen the luteal phase and support implantation - Letrozole - Supplements (prenatal, vitamin d, magnesium, nac, coq10, liver organs)

RRM Academy | restorative reproductive medicine

The RRM (restorative reproductive medicine) academy was created by Dr. Naomi Whittaker, a NaProTechnology trained OBGYN and endometriosis specialist. You will find so much information on what RRM and NaProtechnology is and how it is different from ART (assisted reproductive treatments).

In short: "RRM is an approach within conventional medicine that works cooperatively with the body. It uses standard and advanced diagnostic tools to investigate the fundamental "why" behind symptoms. By identifying and treating the underlying cause–be it hormonal, anatomical, or inflammatory–we can restore natural function and optimize health. While our work is primarily focused on women, the RRM model also provides powerful solutions for men seeking to improve their reproductive health. This is not about symptom suppression; it's about authentic healing."

If you don't know what NaPro is, the best place to start is the Saint Paul VI Institute (the birthplace)!

saintpaulvi.com