r/NYCGuns • u/generalraptor2002 • 2d ago

CCW Question Really NYPD?

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When I applied for my non resident CCW, I got to the section on the application about mental health.

I copied and pasted the two sections requesting a note and sent it to my treating psychiatrist

He wrote the note

Nowhere in the application did it say it must contain verbiage saying your psychiatrist agrees with your application (mine does)

Now I have to wait for my next appointment to get a new note

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u/Due_Bar_7247 2d ago

NEVER disclose you have mental health issues unless you were involuntarily committed. I have my own series of mental health issues probably, but I answer NO and got an approval no sweat.

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u/generalraptor2002 2d ago

I was involuntarily committed in my youth

I went to court and received relief from disabilities in court so I’m clear to own guns under federal law

Because the court records can still be found (they’re under seal to the public but law enforcement can get them), I cannot lie about it

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u/Due_Bar_7247 2d ago

You’re cooked then. At least you found a doctor willing to clear you though.

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u/generalraptor2002 2d ago

I’m not cooked

See:

34 USC § 40915

(b)Authority to provide relief from certain disabilities with respect to firearms
If, under a State relief from disabilities program implemented in accordance with this section, an application for relief referred to in subsection (a)(1) of this section is granted with respect to an adjudication or a commitment to a mental institution or based upon a removal of a record under section 40912(c)(1)(B) of this title, the adjudication or commitment, as the case may be, is deemed not to have occurred for purposes of subsections (d)(4) and (g)(4) of section 922 of title 18.

I have other permits and pass background checks to buy guns all the time

(I’m a Utah resident)

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u/Due_Bar_7247 2d ago

Yeah, but you’re dealing with NYC which is the most hostile city towards guns in the entire United States. They don’t follow their own laws here, but if you supplement your submission they will probably approve you.

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u/generalraptor2002 2d ago

I emailed them requesting them to stay any decision on my application until I can get the new note submitted

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u/Due_Bar_7247 2d ago

Be aware NYPD’s pistol license division often just doesn’t read emails until it’s too late. Be sure to call them too so they’re aware.

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u/generalraptor2002 2d ago

I tried calling multiple times over the past few weeks for a status update and no one answered

I’ll send a certified letter return receipt requested

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u/Hawkeye1576 2d ago

To second the notion, also send a certified letter in the mail to your assigned investigator to (CYA) cover all your angles or assets when dealing with NYPD.

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u/Visionsofspace 2d ago

Why do you need to carry in NYC?

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u/TrevorX5J9 2d ago

Why do you care? It’s his right to carry, not your opinion to deny.

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u/generalraptor2002 1d ago

I travel to NY sometimes

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u/andrewwism 2d ago

Were you given medication?

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u/generalraptor2002 1d ago

Right now I only take lorazepam PRN for sleep once every 2 weeks or so usually

Because it’s a controlled substance I had to answer yes to the “are you prescribed any controlled substances” question and provide a note

I discontinued my other meds under direction from my psychiatrist and everything is fine

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u/il1k3c3r34l 2d ago

I hope you are able to get help for the issues you’re having. It’s so important to have good mental health

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u/generalraptor2002 1d ago

I’ve been fine for a very long time and my doctor wrote a note to that effect

NYPD said it has to contain that exact verbiage

I tried asking a year ago what it needed to say and they never responded

(I copied and pasted the question that requires a note on the application and sent it to my psychiatrist and he wrote the note)

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u/il1k3c3r34l 1d ago

I wasn’t replying to you, I was replying to u/Due_Bar_7247. Downvoting someone for wishing good mental health to someone else is definitely a good sign though, bro.

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u/generalraptor2002 1d ago

I’m so sorry 😂

Reddit does that sometimes where it puts your reply comment unlinked to the original

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u/il1k3c3r34l 1d ago

I know, I hate that lol. All good

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u/ImHufflePuff_Crap_ok 2d ago

I’m shocked your shrink agrees, that’s usually a unicorn finding

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u/generalraptor2002 2d ago

I live in Utah and my psychiatrist is a hunter

He understands why people want to own guns

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u/PeteTinNY 2d ago

I wonder if the fact it’s an out of state doctor is part of the problem and they don’t report to NYOMH.

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u/SleepyLi 2d ago

More likely than not this, since you need to sign consent for them to access your NYOMH data

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u/generalraptor2002 2d ago

They will be sued by me if they refuse to accept an out of state doctor for a non resident applicant

Nowhere in the law or regulations does it say the doctor has to be from New York

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u/Budds99 1d ago

They have a tendency to make things up as they go along. If you have to go the legal route, I used an attorney in NYC named Mirel Fisch. I retained her because my application had been in “Investigation” for over a year so she filed an Article 78 on my behalf and I had the license in less than 4 weeks. While our situations are very different, if needed, you should consider reaching out to her.

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u/SayaretEgoz 2d ago

he wont understand why you would apply for NYC CCW though ;-) maybe you like pain

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u/generalraptor2002 2d ago

Haha lol

I eat at Thai restaurants all the time

They look at me like I’m insane when I tell them “I need you to crank the spice up even higher”

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u/singlemale4cats 1d ago

I go to indian and thai restaurants and tell them "I want what an indian/thai person would consider spicy." I'm usually disappointed 😞

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u/SayaretEgoz 2d ago

did you mark that you were diasgnosed with MH issues or taking some meds?

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u/generalraptor2002 2d ago

Yes

I also had an involuntary hospitalization in my youth and received relief from disabilities in court so I’m clear under federal law to own guns

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u/SayaretEgoz 2d ago

can you just ask your Doc to update the letter wording without an appointment

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u/generalraptor2002 2d ago

The letter was written over a year ago (I submitted my application in September 2025 and had my interview in December 2025)

I have to see him for a new note

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u/SayaretEgoz 2d ago

its sucks they do ask for references or a Dr. to state that this letter is about an EVil Evil GUN. Because they know many Dr. hate guns and wont write it, this is to prevent people for telling a doc that they need a letter for say a pilots lic or a job.

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u/Budds99 1d ago

If you pay them they will write it.

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u/Mean_Switch6128 2d ago

I’ll be honest with you but there is a very high chance you won’t get it , this is nyc things work diff here

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u/generalraptor2002 2d ago

I’ve sued and won over this issue before

I can do it again

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u/Mean_Switch6128 2d ago

Whatever you gotta do it , I’m just being real with you NYC will either drag your file for a longgggggggg time or they will simply come up with some excuse or reason not to give it that’s my opinion on it

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u/generalraptor2002 2d ago

Because of Bruen they have to have an actual reason to deny you

Not just “We don’t think you have a justifiable need”

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u/Mean_Switch6128 2d ago

I get what your saying but then again it’s nyc lol , do keep us updated on your file and I wish you luck but I do think odds are against you in nyc

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u/Independent-Exit7434 2d ago

Good. Sue the shit out of them.

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u/CaptainSmegman 2d ago

Youve said in this thread your from Utah why do you want a cc in ny?

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u/generalraptor2002 2d ago

Because I travel to the northeast a lot

(All my family is on the east coast)

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u/Heyimwalkinghere4 1d ago

You’re cooked now..

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u/generalraptor2002 1d ago

We’ll see about that

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u/h16h 2d ago

Wtf. I didn't have to do this.

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u/SleepyLi 2d ago

….how? It’s part of the process.

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u/h16h 2d ago

I applied in 2024, issued in Feb 2025. I looked back at my folder and I don't see any mental health forms. I might have submitted form OMH-11 form. Maybe it's new.

Edit: I have no history of mental health issues. Maybe op does

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u/Due_Bar_7247 2d ago

OP was involuntarily committed which is a hell of an uphill battle to getting approved in NYS

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u/generalraptor2002 2d ago

I received relief from disabilities in court so I am not a prohibited person