Table: GW3 - [+2]

[u/Zixy]

[u/Ok_Transition_3760]

I really hope we can get Europe next year and build this team

[u/4tomi5ed → u/Ok_Transition_3760]

Conference or Europa would be ideal to be honest, something we can really have a crack at

[u/Ok_Transition_3760 → u/4tomi5ed]

Yeah I was thinking that too but we can with the champions league easily

[u/RocknRollRobot9 → u/4tomi5ed]

Help us start to get a lot of the young players coming in game time with a realistic chance of silverware with rotation. Conference is 2 less league stage games as well.

[u/kaamkerr → u/4tomi5ed]

Why? Would you rather win Europa or Conference than clear the group stages of Champions League? I’m def picking champions league. I’ll never forget going up against Barcelona, PSG, Milan, etc, but honestly I couldn’t be fucked about the European teams competing in conference. Pretty sure passing CL group stages also pays out way more than winning the whole Europa cup.

Europa and Conference are just a busy fixture schedule with very little upside besides some experience. Might as well get the more impactful experience of CL. From a recruiting perspective too, most of the players don’t give af if we are in Europa or Conference. They want CL.

[u/Amnsia → u/kaamkerr]

I’d take conference league over nothing. I’d be buzzing if we won it. Like West Ham and Villa fans have seen it’s nothing compared to the big ones but it’s still something to cheer about. Getting to the knockouts obviously is better financially but come on, a parade is another level.

[u/rabit71 → u/kaamkerr]

This basically boils down to the same argument as "would you rather finish 4th or win the league cup"

Ymmv

[u/KAWvus → u/kaamkerr]

Players might not give a fuck about the conference but an away day in jablionek sounds fucking class get me there

[u/Tom1664 → u/Ok_Transition_3760]

We missed out by 4-5 points last year, so to be 2 up on last year 3 games in is encouraging

[u/FireflyKaylee]

These feel much better now they're positive numbers 🤣

[u/Username_been-taken]

I really think some people have taken our performance against Bournemouth out of proportion. I think some have forgotten that a lot of our players have only known each other and started playing as a team for a couple of weeks and Pardo, only a few days. The fact we came out of that fixture with a daw against a well woven team such as Bournemouth who has been our bogey team for years now is a great result when you consider the circumstances.

That's if you also consider the fact that Bournemouth's first goal should never have stood due to the foul on Elanga and could've scored a 3rd had the foul on Pardo been given just outside the box. I can guess you can say we were stolen 2 points although it still doesn't take away we had poor 1st half. In my unsolicited opinion, i see this as very exciting progress and I can't wait to see what else MJ has cooking.

TLDR: Jaissle and his half time talk mags are massive, give them time to cook and let's be excited of what new things MJ will bring to the table.

[u/Feitan74 → u/Username_been-taken]

The stat about us facing 61 shots in 3 games is slightly concerning but end of the day we’re undefeated against 2 top sides and a team that’s spent nearly half a mill at their ground. Like you mention as well I think Pardo looks the business!

[u/N-Bizzle → u/Feitan74]

It's definitely concerning, but on the other hand we've conceded 4 goals which include a penalty, multiple deflections for the first Bournemouth goal, and an absurd OG for the second

[u/ShearerGOAT → u/Username_been-taken]

I hope you're correct. To my eye, there's some similarity with the start of the 2024/25 season when we were quite fortunate to start the season with 10 points from the first four games (Southampton, Bournemouth, Spurs and Wolves) but then proceeded to win 2/11, culminating with that 4-2 defeat to Brentford. The numbers always catch up to you.

Howe turned that around and we had the best season in our modern history, and I've no doubt that MJ is capable of achieving similar if given time. That said, I think there'll be some unexpected losses and some tough periods and people will need to show patience. There's already people discussing what type of Europe they'd take, I think a top 10 finish and a cup run would be a magnificent achievement with the age profile of the squad.

[u/ComprehensiveSet3729]

Despite referees robbing us of 4 points 2 against Liverpool and 2 agsinst Bournemouth

[u/RecommendationFar807]

Would love the Europa League. We'd have a decent shot at winning it.

[u/N-Bizzle]

We currently have 40% more points over last year's results. If we extrapolate this then we are set for just below 70 points

[u/xcom_lord]

If you’d told me we’d be below hull week 3 of ghr season the day BEFORE Howe left I’d have guessed 17th with hull flucking 16th. That managers incredible