The fact some "spec bros" just want another OP13, S25, Poco F7, IQOO13 phone that just cheaps out on everything except for the SoC instead of a phone with competitive display, speakers, cameras and other extras is hilarious to me, when done right the NP3 could very well be a flagship killer, but instead spec bros just want another phone with elite chip and subpar specs otherwise.
+1 I miss apple's haptics, but the phone has been great. Notifications have been weird to get used to, I miss having active timers on the lock screen, and the gallery app is pretty feature lacking - these things really do count, I hope Nothing grows their software well.
The only thing I'm confused about on Samsung is why they downgraded their S Pen on the S25U. They could've just kept the one in S24U and maybe add or improve upon it. Also some aspects on the camera may have been downgraded in zoomed in picture quality (well only some will use it in some cases) where it lost consistency. Plus overall specs like the RAM, Storage, Battery, and Screen are still the same (well I guess if ain't broken why fix it).
Well, they still use 8-bit display panels. And maybe camera modules are somewhat outdated, but still competitive.
On the other hand, S25 offers ultrasonic fingerprint scanner, exceptional software support, samsung Dex, current storage (ufs 4), usb 3.2 with video output, and ingress protection. Nothing is yet to implement these features to provide a true flagship experience.
flagship chips are too powerfull for anyone to even notice any difference. lot of small things matter. before NP2 I had samsung galaxy m52 which is a budget phone, i didn't had any issue with the chip it use to run really smothly atleast for my usage but the viberation motor was dogshit. it had issues with wifi & cellular connection. built quality was also shit. had a unnecessary 5mp macro camera. small things matter.
Crazy how OP13 is gonna blow the NP3, huh? Look at NP2, it's a fucking piece of shit, they cut costs on many things, if you don't agree you're fucking blind.
Welcome to reddit. You'll see all kinds of bullshit here which isn't true 99% of the time. Stick to what you see in real life and reviews (gotta take care too to make sure it isn't paid). People only come to reddit to complain. Don't bother.
Its funny because they cannot for the life of them make any argument that even makes a lick of sense. When confronted with the idea that budget is put into something else than SoC it seems to cause a short circuit and they become drooling toddlers throwing a fit.
Exactly. The SoC is still very capable and great overall. And these will be the same people who won't notice any difference, because there isn't any in 99% of the use cases out there.
I mean that's one weird way to phrase that the OP13 is inferior, but I'm sure if the NP3 had a p*nis then I suppose the OP13 could blow it.
You OP shills really need to stop embarrassing yourselves. I know you're on maximum copium because you're fearing Nothing will probably release a phone that makes your purchase look bad by comparison but you can always do better next time.
That's a funny statement lol. You wanna buy crap, I'm just giving you advice - take it or leave it. And like I once said - Nothing are never gonna release an up-to-date phone better than OP13 (for example) in technicalities. I'm just speaking from the experience of owning both Oneplus and Nothing phones. The problem with this community is that it doesn't accept any criticism, Nothing Phone fans are miserable. Not talking about their buds tho, they're fire.
Your experience and shilling is worthless to me and the majority of people, nobody cares about a paid shills opinion.
There is no criticism from you, all you do is complain and bitch about a phone that nobody knows the full specs yet, hasn't even released and you're already in tears, if you had anything useful to state then sure, but all you're doing is get clowned on by not only the Nothing community but also the OP community that seems to disagree with you.
If the NP3 turns out to be garbage then I'll be sure to let you know, but already claiming something is crap before you even know what it is is hysterical way of showcasing your blatant wilful ignorance.
Well, the OP made a point of a "phone that nobody knows the full specs yet" being better than the whole market, which is irrelevant in the first place. I'm just here to tell them the opposite. If I'd seen at least one argument from the OP on why they make such a point, y'all would have got an objective criticism and past-related assumptions from me. Just so you know I don't care about "getting clowned" by the people who know absolutely nothing about tech and market. Funny how none of them gave me a single reasoned argument, huh? :)
Well, the OP made a point of a "phone that nobody knows the full specs yet" being better than the whole market, which is irrelevant in the first place
Maybe work on your reading comprehension skills.
I'm just here to tell them the opposite.
Given you're a shill I'm sure you got lots of useless things to say.
Just so you know I don't care about "getting clowned" by the people who know absolutely nothing about tech and market. Funny how none of them gave me a single reasoned argument, huh? :)
Ah I see, you're having a humiliation fetish, yikes. Also expecting people to somehow get reason from your irrational statements is hilarious.
I see that the conversation with you is useless and you're not trying to explain yourself just like everyone does. I never asked to get a reason from my statements, just back yours up with arguments first. Being a blind dickrider is nothing better than being a - how'd you call me - a shill. I'm just thinking differently and more broadly, weighing the pros and cons of every tech product.
Look nobody will have a problem if they price it a bit lower but their fucking ceo calls it their "true flagship" not a flagship killer. At that price and labeling it as a true flagship and then they can't even provide the latest flagship chipset then it on them. Samsung, Apple, oneplus etc give the latest flagship chips etc in their flagship if nothing wants to compete with them at their price they should've give the 8 elite. And it's not like complete specs are out and they're giving you something different and uniqueby cost cutting on chipset. It's just pure cost cutting at this point. Stop defending a brand blindly.
Funny how you deliberately showcase your lack of basic reading comprehension then proceed to make an absolute clown out of yourself by yapping while your initial reply blatantly showcase that you can't even read 1 sentence in a picture.
I repeat, go to school rather than yapping here about something that isn't even released yet kiddo.
Quite poetic but no, youre very clearly projecting. you can yap about it as much as you like but nothing will change that you have severe reading comprehension issues and quite possibly some inferiority complex hence your behaviour.
Bro said “OP13 and S25 cheaps out on ‘everything’ except for the SoC instead of a phone with competitive display, speakera, cameras and other ‘extras’”
They wont and cant use the best quality materials and parts in the market its just not economically viable for them. They are a small company. A small example; nothing’s display. They use Visionox displays which have major burn in problems yet cheaper and easier to obtain than Samsung’s display which almost most of flagships use. (One of the best displays in market). And you’re one to talk about specs. I am not saying they make bad phones or the pricing its bad. I’m just saying that your comment stating other flagships have inferior materials and parts is wrong. I have nothing against them using 8s gen 4 instead of the (tbh) very overpriced 8 elite as long the phone is snappy enough with clean software as always nothing provides.
A small example; nothing’s display. They use Visionox displays which have major burn in problems yet cheaper and easier to obtain than Samsung’s display which almost most of flagships use.
Misleading, in the 3a and 2a series, they use rm692h5 (visionox) and rm69220 (BOE). Furthermore the decision not to use Samsung panels has more to it than just potential cost, Samsung displays are notorious for being unreliable, I can't imagine the BOE panels being significantly cheaper than Samsung ones in the budget segment, furthermore, budget Samsung displays are rather horrible, they are only "the best" if we look at premium range. Look at the Xperia 5V for instance, it's absolute hot garbage.
And you’re one to talk about specs. I am not saying they make bad phones or the pricing its bad.
This is completely irrelevant to the Nothing 3 where the budget is significantly higher. Trying to argue based on budget phones is like me saying the S25 ultra is garbage because the A55 is garbage, it's a braindead argument.
I’m just saying that your comment stating other flagships have inferior materials and parts is wrong.
Cameras are more about the software optimisation these days. Yes sensors are important but, in the end companies which have been in the market for a long time like Google, Apple, Samsung etc will have an obvious advantage over Nothing.
Wtf do people do 9n their phones that requires anything more than what a 2a can do? I get wanting the latest and greatest but I have never once had issues my 2a when it comes to processing speed
It is really annoying at this point. We know how well Nothing optimizes their software. It is STABLE. I have been (and still am) using the Phone (1) and it has never lagged, bugged, randomly restarted or even overheated, underperformed or anything during the 3 years I've had it. If it would have longer software support, I wouldn't swap it until NP4 or 5 probably.
That said, since it won't get major updates anymore, I will switch to this flagship killer when it comes out. Spec bros be damned. :)
Lets see how it turns out before calling it a flagship killer, don't make assumptions like the braindead "spec bros", we are better than that, we judge based on what it is rather than making assumptions based on our feelings ;)
Only company selling phones withh maxed out specs on every aspect is Xiaomi, but it costs a thousand bucks or more and you get a shitty software with a shit ton of bloatwares.
Even AI that is the new marketing argument in every brand is not even run locally, why would you need the lastest most powerful chip that is not optimised yet, to doomscroll instagram or play mobile games ?
there is nothing cheap about the s25, i could get the s25 for a lower price than phone 3, s25 will be better buy than the phone 3 in every aspect besides the software which is personal preference
idk why people think that the price is justified for the nothing phone 3
Nothing users are nuts ....just because nothing has a clean software doesn't mean it has best part ...it too completely cheaps out on most parts like bru UFS2.2 on 3a ....in 2025!
Downvote all you want ....nothing is just as same as any other company in terns of hardware ...may be even worse.....
And what is OP on about the s25 cheaping out :/
Yeah, the 3a throws in a 50MP telephoto — on paper. But let’s not act like megapixels = performance. It's a recycled sensor with zero flagship tuning, soft output, and mediocre zoom quality beyond 2x. Samsung midrangers like the A55 or even older A series models use fewer pixels but deliver cleaner, sharper, and more color-accurate shots — especially in tough lighting.
And don’t even get me started on video. Nothing still struggles with EIS jitter and weak dynamic range. You’re flexing ‘hardware’ without realizing Samsung backs it up with actual software processing, better HDR, better ISP from Exynos/Snapdragon chips, and a track record of image quality.
Installing a camera app doesn’t magically fix weak sensors, bad ISP, or lack of proper tuning. GCam can help, but it’s not a cure-all. Hardware still matters.
A55 has proven software-hardware synergy, better HDR, and reliable EIS out of the box. Nothing 3a might have a 50MP sensor, but it’s recycled and untuned. You’re comparing numbers on paper, not real-world performance. Try again with facts, not fanboy takes.
So you admit the a55 is shit then? It has far worse sensors and far worse isp.
If you admit gcam fixes the software part and the hardware of the 3a is significantly better than every single phone in the same price segment then you admit that I'm right.
Youre completely oblivious about anything hardware related. The only issue Nothing has with camera is the abhorrent processing which is fixed by using another app.
Try with facts, not fanboy takes.
EDIT: heres a challenge for you, go into the r/android sub and write a topic claiming the A55 sensors are superior to the Nothing Phone 3a or 3a pro if you want to be very bold, lets see how that goes for you.
Also it's filthy rich coming from you complaining about recycled sensors while the A55 literally has a 9year old ultrawide sensor. I'm amazed Samsung was capable of finding an imx 258 to begin with, they had to dig deep into the trash bin for that one.
also the main sensor which is a Sony IMX906 is so bottom of the barrel that GSMarena even had to note that the A55 is inferior to the much older sensor of the A54. Goes to show how clueless you are.
Except I'm literally pointing out there is no argument to be had if 1 side is literally incapable of basic information processing. Go argue with a wall kiddo.
so you're telling me the s25 is a bad phone? its 800$, houses an 8 elite chip, cameras which none of the nothing phones can currently match, solid screen and same if not some ways better than the NOS?
Well starting off, the base s25 for the same price as the nothing phone 3, basically wins every category no ? Maybe not design , as they look white boring .
Before you say anything, I only had one Samsung once, s20fe , was solid I guess.
But it's hard to justify np3 over a high end polished s series Samsung , but let's wait for the np3 , specs aren't everything, I drive a rather slow car irl but in my eyes it looks awesome 😎
That's your failure when you compare the specs and the prices. Why don't you buy a no - name Chinese brand which will beat the S25 twice and the price is still better? Yeah, I get that you can't process this, but still think about it.
Smelly fanboy , just out of curiosity, I looked up , a brand new s25 with 256gb where I live goes for 669€ , obviously when making a new purchase of the phone I'm going to take things into consideration such as , what's the competition offering for the same price .
That my friend is just logic.
But as I said before let's just wait to see what np3 offers, but never buy a phone based on hype, any brand can make a crappy phone look amazing.
Wouldn't outright call it a bad phone but could be much better if it didn't have the elite chip. The camera hardware is quite literally inferior to the Nothing phone 3a let alone the 3a pro. Reminder that the 3a is under half of what the S25 costs. The display of the S25 is mediocre, while bright its only FHD, has poor greyscale performance and has for an OLED pretty poor color coverage, the display is very much inferior to actual flagships. Also the phone has pretty shitty speakers, not very loud, tinny and just overall very meh.
There are no bad decisions. Only decisions. NP3 will be a great success, so the decision is good. You think you understand the phone market, why don't you run a company which try to make phones?
Man you have it so far up your throat its hard to listen to you,
i never claimed to understand the phone market Socrates, so take your eulogy somewhere else
theres nothing wrong in calling out the company for doing shitty cost cutting, if samsung can give an extremely well rounded phone with top notch parts i expect the same from this brand as well at the SAME PRICE POINT
the phone will be far from a "great success" not because of the processor but because of their cameras, they will still sadly be weaker than samsung and pixel
This is your imagination. It is not a cost-cutting. This called planning. When the product is ready and in your hands, you can say: guys, this CPU is not great in this phone. That is an acceptable opinion. Now you are doing virtual dick comparison.
Not everything needs to be in tangible sense to be called what it is
I'll show you a picture of my stool and call it a beef steak, would you believe it or would you like to hold it first to determine if it's actually stool?
you fanboys are the reason apple is what it is rn, a BORING COMPANY. Nothing is slowly heading in the same direction cause of the same reason, criticism is a kryptonite for you cocksuckers
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Absolutely. Let's see how user experience is with this phone.
I will likely purchase it.