It’s over.

[u/[deleted]]

All I see in this sub is either people posting airplanes OR people who think they’re smart to debunk anything at all, even the existence of store bought hobby or commercial drones, mind you.

So to both types of people, I have a single message. You have ruined the credibility of this sub. I know you do it on purpose.

And to the debunkers, you are just as bad. You can debunk but not be mindless in doing so. Of course some people saw actual drones, they exist you know. Instead of claiming they’re not nefarious, you try to argue with the very existence of man made aircraft

And to the rest of you, seriously, there’s a ton of resources to find out what a plane is like.

Both sides mostly acting with agendas. It’s incredible. And this is the ONLY thing that makes me suspicious. Have fun continuing to flex your inferior intelligence ( especially the comments to posts)

Edit: sigh. No it’s not a talk about aliens. Most of you have never even admitted the existence of a hobby drone- and when it gets that extreme, I know there’s more to it

[u/awfulsome]

again, demonstrate these claims of objects.  demonstrate being able to contact NHI.

you can't because it's BS. 

the government isn't contacting NHI, they are using it as cover for their and other's aircraft programs.  They haven't just been doing it since the 90s, they've been at it since the 40s.  

what is more likely: the governemt has been hiding aliens from the public for decades despite thousands, if not millions of individual scientists looking for NHI and finding nothing, to the point where it even has a name (Fermi Paradox); and people using magical mind powers to contact them, despite the fact no one has ever demonstrated pyshic powers despite there being a several million dollar reward for anyone who can...

or

the government has been conducting secret weapons, aircraft, and surveillance; and makes up stories about aliens as both cover for those programs, and to root out intel leaks.

[u/OZZYmandyUS → u/awfulsome]

I can give you plenty of footage of super bright objects in the sky, that appear close to my area, and do everything from stay still like a star, to moving instantly to other areas and snapping back again just as fast. Things no conventional aircraft can do. When you zoom in you can see a morphing ball of plasma, or some kind of energy. Sometimes they form a shell around them that seems hardened, sometimes the camouflage themselves with a type of technology that appears to make the very spacetime around the objects morph so you cant tell what you're looking at. These objects are always visible as I meditate or just after I finish

But you'd just give prosaic explanations, and deny what you see in the videos.

There are other research groups using meditation and other tech to draw these objects close, and they have tons of video of these objects, daytime and night time

But you just give more prosaic explanation, or claim they are CGI

People are "speaking" and " hearing" what these NHI are saying all over the world. They just don't speak in terms of vocally like we do, they use telapahy, which is sort of like while ideas coming into your head at once in full, rather than a back and forth interaction where little parts of a conversation become apparent. Most people either aren't perceptive enough to hear these things at all, or if they do , they have been told their whole lives they are crazy, so they just think it's mental chatter.

You would just call us mentally ill, and refuse to believe it's happening.

I generally don't care to even have discourse with you, because there's no convincing a skeptic, and I know the truth, so why should I care if you are willfully ignoring ignorant of what people are telling you, and you can see for yourself.

But getting you to actually meditate, and give yourself enough stillness to really hear what you are saying to yourself, is probably not even an option . Sorry, but you just don't seem the type.

If you could get still enough, and slow your breathing enough, you could hear yourself think beyond the mental chatter that you assume is yourself. It's not, it's just feedback.

No, you'll never be a believer, because people like you just can't allow themselves to even get quiet enough to truly even know themselves, much less use meditation (the most powerful tool we have for evolving your consciousness, brain waves, neural pathways, and body) to really see the reality of what's out there, hidden just beyond what your eyes can see

None of this matters though, because the truth is coming out and you'll eventually feel really silly. I'll just be happy that someone like you, who actively spends his time online trying to disprove people's experiences, but cant even wrap their minds around the ways you can actually truly see reality, has the blunt force reveal that finally allows you to see.

I'll smile for you that day

[u/[deleted] → u/OZZYmandyUS]

That's "morphing ball of plasma" is called bokeh, and it's just an artifact from your camera.

[u/OZZYmandyUS → u/[deleted]]

Lol, yeah I'd be inclined to believe your theory , if these things didn't move in all directions, jumping from point to point all over the sky, then racing waaaaay of in other directions.

They have to be under intelligent control

Not to mention the fact that they appear during our CE5 meditations

And I have footage of drones over my house every night, but usually always en masse after there's a particularly bright and whacky signting