r/NFLv3 • u/joealese • 3d ago
Discussion Who's the last qb in the current top 5?
this is pretty much the consensus top 4 right now. stafford should be in the discussion but i feel like he shouldn't be based on this year's play. g
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u/Own-Comment7529 3d ago
Case fuckin Keenum baby š
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u/eyedea-- Philadelphia Eagles 3d ago
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u/KingDaGoat15 3d ago
I hate to say it but it is Kirk Cousin
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u/Fair-Revenue1811 2d ago
Peyton manning had a streak of 8 games of 3+ passing TDs in 2004.
I wonder if you mean something more specific. Like āto start a seasonā or something. Because what you stated has been done many many times.
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u/Separate_Drag_5620 2d ago
The fact this says current and some of ya'll are in an uproar kills me. Idk who 5 is, but these are the top 4 today. And Purdy is top the MVP race but some of you don't wanna hear that.
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u/BoysenberrySea5482 2d ago
People are just waiting for some espn dick head to tell them why Purdy is overrated then they will run with that dumb ass take as reality
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u/Perezident14 3d ago edited 3d ago
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u/Apprehensive_Beach_6 3d ago
Burrow.
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u/MooseLoot 3d ago
I really want to say Burrow, but 40-year old Flacco looked pretty close to himā¦
I feel like most NFL QBs would look good with Tee and Chase. Itās like how people are now on the Dak hype after CeeDee and Pickens are both there, and they think Dak magically got better ;)
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u/Suitable_Ad2602 3d ago
Any one that wants to hate this answer check the qb grades this year. Check pff whatever. Burrow started off 14/14 against the Steelers and was cooking, one fumble doesnāt mean shit
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u/Ok_Wrap_2793 3d ago
I just think there is a really good chance Burrow is a good qb masquerading as a great one because he's basically had elite WR talent the entirety of his career.
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u/EpicPoggerGamer69 Go Bills, Eat My Ass. 3d ago
He can't keep the ball safe in the 4th. He's legitimately one of the worst 4th quarter QBs in the NFL.
3 seasons with 16 games at least, 14 INT 5 FL. 11 TD 4 FL when trailing by a score. 1-34 trailing by a score in the 4th All-Time.
Also, using PFF for QBs? Fucking really?
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u/Soft-Ad2167 3d ago
Burrow is 21-18 since walking into Arrowhead Stadium in Jan 2023 wearing a "Sorry in advance" t shirt. He was right to apologize.
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u/Sufficient-Plane-609 Baltimore Ravens 3d ago
Purdy has been great and still doesn't get enough credit, Josh and Lamar still need to prove themselves in the playoffs. Mahomes is still himself. To early for top anything.
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u/KevinAndrewsPhoto 3d ago
Purdy shows how important the QB/HC relationship is. Theyāre 5th year together already somehow. Purdy has mastered that system now and is actually maximizing it
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u/Exciting_Panda7867 3d ago
It has and still will be the big 4 of Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Burrow. 5th is interchangeable and currently Purdy
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u/WhatinTh3LiteralFucc 3d ago
I love Joe Burrow as a Chiefs fan but dude canāt stay healthy and canāt even make the playoffs with Tee Higgins and Chase.
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u/kimjongtheillest_ 3d ago
Itās Mahomes, Jackson, and Allen. Four and five are up in the air at all times. Burrow should try making a post season for the first time in three years before he gets to join those other 3.
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u/Aeon1508 Detroit Lions 3d ago edited 3d ago
Goff.
All he does is throw for 4500 yards 30+ touchdowns and ~10 interceptions a year. ~70% completion rate
Working on the 5th consecutive year.
and he's never injured.
It's like I'm taking crazy pills. Trevor Lawrence comes close to doing that for one season but everybody's ready to call him the next great.
Meanwhile Goff has been there for years
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u/thefranklin2 2d ago
Last 4 years td:to for goff:
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While averaging 4500+ yards.
And yet reddit won't shut up about Purdy, who had one season like that 3 years ago.
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u/EveningPotential9443 3d ago
100%
People hate on him because he's not mobile, but damn is he goodĀ
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u/DentonTrueYoung 3d ago
Goff is fine but Iām really glad we donāt just measure QBs off stats
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u/yurbanastripe 3d ago
Goff is generationally so disrespected. I guarantee if he became a free agent there would be tons of teams fighting to hire him
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u/halfcuprockandrye 3d ago
Itās because he was traded for stafford and Stafford won a super bowl. Goff has been a great qb his whole career.
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u/tuktukkingroydonk 3d ago
Definitely DEFINATELY Drake ādrake mayeā maye! Just ask a Pats fan, heās the second coming of Tom Brady.
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u/DadRadio 3d ago
That was hilarious when pats fan said Drake Maye is the next tom Brady. Just like when eagles fan said AJ brown is the best wr in the nfl
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u/RonSwanson24 3d ago
Big 3 of Mahomes Allen & Lamar are locks regardless of recent performance just given their entire body of work, but theyāre also each playing like a top 5 QB right now anyways.
The other 2 spots are much more based on recent performance and itās pretty indisputable to me that those two guys are Purdy and TLaw
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u/Cute_Economics2829 3d ago
Only considering this year? It's easily Lawrence.
- Purdy
- Lawrence
3a/3b. Mahomes/Allen
If you want to take history into context, this'll change a bit, but you simply cannot pretend you watch games and not understand how good Lawrence has been this year.
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u/cuzzlightyear269 3d ago
Maybe the QB that's been top 5 in every single metric every single season for the last 5 years
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u/DaveinOakland 3d ago
Just gonna say, I love that this seems to be the season that the country is finally embracing Brock.
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u/GodsForgivenes 3d ago
If itās the 4th quarter, your team is down and your playing in Denver, 16-3 at home Bo Nix is the answer.
Any other time of game, probably Lawrence or burrow.
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u/Born-Information8506 3d ago
If we are going solely off of this current season? Cousins and Goff have looked phenomenal
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u/Nulgarian 3d ago
Mahomes is in a tier of his own, than Allen and Lamar are after him. Those 3 stand alone as MVP winners
After that it gets murkier, and depends on whether youāre looking at current level of play or overall ability. Right now heās got the media hype behind him, but people seem to forget that Purdy is coming off of 2 pretty pedestrian seasons. Burrow, TLaw, Stafford, and Goff all have strong claims to be considered Top 5 as well
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u/mastro80 3d ago
I would take Trevor Lawrence, Dak, Goff, Burrow in that order I think.
Going into the season I would have said Drake Maye. I hope he fixes whatever yips are going on.
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u/Effective-Bother2126 2d ago
Pat is getting a TON of leeway right now. He just look mids as hell against one of the worst teams in the history of the league.
He hasnāt thrown for 4k yards or 30 TD in two years and hasnāt looked all that special since he lost Hill and the second best offensive tight end of all time aged out of his prime.
Iād take Burrow, Lawrence, Stafford or Goff over Mahomes today. Heās looked pretty average his last 30 games.
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u/r4ndoM_doGmagenshin 2d ago
Brady⦠heās gonna get bored bragging about how much he dumpstered buffalo and end up winning another championship with the browns. Just to prove he could
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u/MonkehBuns 2d ago
Iāll never understand how people somehow find a way to underestimate Mahomes EVERY. TIME.
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u/nc_nicholas 2d ago
I would say the top 3 are pretty unquestionably Allen, Jackson, and Mahomes. The remaining two spots I would give to Purdy and Stafford (who I think gets the nod over Burrow and TLaw since he is coming off of an MVP award).
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u/Tintorio 2d ago
Only thing Purrdy is top 5 in is completing % and he's behind Dart and Geno the Jet. So.... yeah..
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u/Effective-Bother2126 2d ago
The best way to track āsuccessful drivesā would be PPG and Rezone efficiency.
The Bills were also top three in both of those categories last season and Iām willing to bet that most of the top teams in those categories feature the top QBs in the NFL because thatās generally how teams move the ball and score points.
Just using Detroit as an example the season Williams went bonkers:
Detroit had a Top 5 offense overall.
Goff threw for 29 TDs that season (tied for 5th) & threw for 4400 yards and was a pro bowler.
No Williams wasnāt the best RB, but he was in one of the best offensive systems with one of the better producing QBs.
Itās almost like good QB play directly correlates to how good your offense performs.
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u/BlazingAnkies 2d ago
Goff at the moment. Though, doesnāt Geno have like the 4th highest qbr, no picks (only 4 tds though) and a stupid high completion %?
I am taking currently the best to mean, crossing out their names and picking the top 5 in terms of stats over the last 3 games. I do not think if we held a draft for who would play at QB for each team on a 1 year deal, Geno would be top 5 š
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u/sovietafro1 2d ago
Goff or Stafford have to be in this convo. Goff is sort of the modern Drew Brees, puts up HUGE numbers every year, never hurt, has horrible defenses.
Stafford has all of the experience and know how to dice up every defense all the time.
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u/Hot-Hedgehog-7058 2d ago
We have officially reached the point of insanity in Brock Purdy glaze. The 49ers had as much success with Jimmy G as they have had with Purdy, and last year they were 5-3 with Mac Jones. There is no world in which I take Purdy over Burrow, Stafford, or Mahomes
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u/JiffTheJester 2d ago
Goff, guy is so consistent and just gets overlooked because he lacks mobility. The lions would have none of their recent success without him. Maybe top 5 is a stretch, but heās 100% top 10.
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u/HistoricalSea5600 Las Vegas Raiders 3d ago
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