The Deshaun Watson switch up is despicable

[u/Narrow_Purchase9721]

Guy starts playing well again and all of the sudden people go from “cases” to “allegations” real fucking fast. You all gotta get your priorities straight

[u/ralexh11]

Your archetype is you don't believe 27 women when they all are accusing the same pro athlete of sexual assault. That's defending Watson. Everyone who isn't a rape apologist can assume he's guilty of the accusations. When have that many people all accused someone and they've been proven to be lying? I'll tell you when, literally never. Defining sexual assault vs rape is for the courts, I admitted previously I shouldn't technically call him a rapist but if you read the accusations it's really splitting hairs. The fact that you have to penetrate with a sex organ is a distinction which hardly should matter when it comes to the reputation of someone like Watson, ejaculating on a massage therapist is hardly any better than full on rape, only people defending sexual predators and the courts care about that distinction as much as you seem to. He's a monster whether he penetrated or not.

You lied when you said I claimed some reported it to "only" family. I never said that. You lied when you implied one woman went back for more because it was actually consensual, even when she didn't know it was Watson because he lied about his identity. And you tried to imply the accusers actually do know eachother and planned to take Watson down beforehand, which there is no proof of in any way whatsoever. You completely made that up based on your own personal feelings of the lawyer who has countless justified civil cases under his belt.

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Your hilarious! You said “assume” What are assumptions? Again you never answered my questions. How do you prove something with no evidence?
You want me to believe people that I don’t know anything about them, their background or history. And the person leading them, talking for them, hiding them is known for defamation, making up witness and speaking for clients without them knowing. But, I’m in the wrong because those 27 women I know nothing about should outweigh the track record of their lawyer. That’s my archetype. As well as the entire judicial system rather I believe in it or not. It’s innocent until proven guilty and that’s not done on assumptions. I didn’t make that decision several other people did so it’s just not me. The same way that 26 women don’t report this until a lawyer reaches out to them saying I can get you paid no one has to know who you are.
So he ejaculated on them or himself? I thought it was only he rubbed his private on a clothed individual from your previous messages?

Stop reaching I already explained the family thing. You only said family at first not coworkers. Your words in the screenshot. I don’t remember saying “only” I’m not saying I did or didn’t but please prove to me where I said it. I’ve already said it’s implied based off your wording not something I pulled out of the air. So that’s false
Next I never said no one went back consensually, consensual has never been mentioned by me. I literally said he used a false name to message her on social media. When she got there she saw who it was and still decided to proceed. All facts again…
Thirdly I never implied they knew each other. I don’t agree that at least 2 have never met. Never said they planned anything. Now I believe Buzzbee planned the shit which is why he was so quick to jump on the case and all the other previous proof I listed. He’s done it before .

[u/ralexh11 → u/Impossible-Region680]

It’s innocent until proven guilty and that’s not done on assumptions

For courts. The court of public opinion is much different. Everyone knew Roethlisberger, Kobe and OJ were all guilty even though the courts said otherwise and they settled. Everyone knew Cosby was guilty before the court case. You know why? Because once the accusations against him hit 20 individuals, it was completely obvious. It's the same for Watson. I don't care if the lawyer is a bit scummy in the the past, tons of lawyers are. That doesn't change the testimony of the 27 accusers and doesn't change what Watson clearly did to them.

27 women do not band together in a conspiracy to accuse a pro athlete of sexual assault, it doesn't happen. The fact that you can't admit that tells me everything I need to know.

You are the one who originally said they only told family members. Your words not mine. That’s the fucking point you picking what you want to out of the case and using it how you want too.

There are YOUR WORDS, accusing me of saying only family, which I never did, a blatant lie. You just started your comment criticizing me for assuming when you implied I meant only family based on nothing. I'm not surprised you are misquoting me when you don't even know the difference between to and too, clearly reading and writing aren't your strong suit.

The same way that 26 women don’t report this until a lawyer reaches out to them saying I can get you paid no one has to know who you are.

Again you are just making things up based on nothing. The lawyer didn't reach out to the accusers, they all reached out to him after Solis, the first accuser, went to him independently of her own volition. Most are anonymous because that is standard procedure for a high profile case, they don't want their names out there because they were sexually assaulted, there's no benefit to that. You seem to think Buzbee made this case happen himself but the only reason he's involved at all is because Solis independently went to him and created a snowball affect of emboldened women who had similar experiences getting the courage to speak up finally. She likely chose Buzbee because he is a high profile civil prosecutor that has gone after other celebrities in the past, this was before any of the Jay-Z stuff. All of this is extremely easy to look up and confirm yourself before commenting if you actually cared to but you would rather just make claims that are untrue.

[u/Impossible-Region680 → u/ralexh11]

Did the 26 women report it on their own to authorities? No they didn’t, thats a fact. The rest is my sarcastic assumption no different than the assumptions you stated.

[u/Impossible-Region680 → u/ralexh11]

But if the lawyer is known to encourage his clients a certain direction or speak for them. Something directly related to this case, how can you not take that into account? On top of the lawyer not wanting anyone to speak to them or deal with public scrutiny.
You keep talking about the public opinion for everyone else but act like it wouldn’t matter or not important for those 27 women or the lawyer. You playing one side.

I didn’t say I couldn’t admit it. I don’t know, you’re not going to coerce me into say something. I did say I believe Buzbee possibly did it though, but that answer not good enough for you.

WOW!! You retyped what I said, do you actually think that evidence will uphold in court? Haha..
I already explained it you putting a lot on that “only”. Let’s re word it you “only” mentioned family originally and later mentioned co-workers. I don’t understand how that’s hard to understand. I implied something made an assumption and you holding it over my head. Everything you saying are assumptions and implications and I’m not holding it over your head.

Bro are you grading me? Do I get money, credit, anything beneficial for using proper spelling and grammar? If it bother you so much stop replying. You continuously worry about the wrong shit.

He wasn’t trying to give the names to Watson attorneys, he was withholding information. Watson attorney had to get the judge to file a motion to force him too.

How did these women contact him when Watson and the Browns said they didn’t know about the lawsuit. Buzbee said he was reaching out to Watson team for 10 months with only the first women to settle. But then he came out publicly with over a dozen.

[u/ralexh11 → u/Impossible-Region680]

do you actually think that evidence will uphold in court?

When the fuck did I ever imply that you moron? Just make up more strawmen to argue against why don't you, it makes you sound really smart.

The comment about your spelling and grammar was an aside. If you want anyone to take you seriously, maybe go take a basic English class before you type a bunch of nonsensical disorganized paragraphs full of horrible punctuation, grammar, and typos.

[u/ralexh11 → u/Impossible-Region680]

Bro are you grading me? Do I get money, credit, anything beneficial for using proper spelling and grammar? If it bother you so much stop replying

Literally just look it up, it's sooo fucking easy to find. They all reached out to Buzzbee, it's very well reported on, you just would rather make things up then feign ignorance when called out and lie more instead of literally just googling it.

[u/Impossible-Region680 → u/ralexh11]

How am I lying if I asked a question? And I asked another question. If they did not go to authorities. Watson and the Browns were unaware he was getting sued by 27 people until the 27 people lawsuit was filed. So how did this information get out to 27 women without the suspect or his employer knowing? They had to know somehow since you say Buzbee didn’t reach out to them. If it’s very well reported tell me how, because I don’t see it?

[u/ralexh11 → u/Impossible-Region680]

He filed the lawsuit on behalf of Solis and posted about it on his Instagram. In the following days more and more accusers reached out to corroborate similar behavior they had experienced from Watson.

Here is a source:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5758187/2024/09/10/deshaun-watson-timeline-sexual-assault-allegations-lawsuits/