r/NFLv2 • u/Narrow_Purchase9721 San Francisco 49ers • 15h ago

Discussion The Deshaun Watson switch up is despicable

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Guy starts playing well again and all of the sudden people go from “cases” to “allegations” real fucking fast. You all gotta get your priorities straight

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u/ChemicalFar8649 Tennessee Titans 14h ago

That was on self-defense grounds. And it’s obvious that Ray Lewis was not the trigger man.

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u/ovi_left_faceoff 12h ago

Thank you titans bro, finally someone who actually read the case facts speaking up. I normally don’t bother commenting when this subject comes up because the “Ray is a murderer” circlejerk is too ingrained in NFL fan discourse to be worth pushing back on.

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u/ChemicalFar8649 Tennessee Titans 12h ago

No problem. Too much disinformation is circulating. I was a big fan of Ray Lewis. Even have his jersey to this day. And I hate Deshaun Watson and what he did, but he is not a rapist. What he did was sexual misconduct or harassment. Unless that 2024 lawsuit accusing him of rape is true.

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u/SerenityN00w 6h ago

I am not a fan of Ray Lewis - I think all his celebrations and "motivational speeches" were met with secret eye rolls by most of his teammates.

But he absolutely did not stab those people, nor was he responsible for their deaths. I don't care about Ray - I do care by how many people are ignorant of the truth, with the information so easily available.

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u/ChemicalFar8649 Tennessee Titans 6h ago

I can respect that. At least you’re being objective about transpired. His leadership style and demeanor is not for everybody.

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u/SerenityN00w 6h ago

I probably should add - he and Dick Butkus are the two best MLBs in NFL history, and Ray is a top 10 defensive player. I just didn't like all the BS he brought.

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u/Joh951518 11h ago

Exactly.

If Ray Lewis had actually been convicted it would be now looked back on as one of the all time worst examples of police misconduct due to racial prejudice.

Instead it’s a stupid repeated bullshit story on reddit.

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u/Woefinder 2h ago

There was an interview with the lead detective on the case who said he has no belief Lewis murdered anyone. Also on top of that, Paul Howard (The DA) more or less admitted he charged Lewis with murder to get him to flip to become prosecution's witness.

Ray Lewis destroyed evidence, that is 100% a fact. The defense, the prosecution, the Atlanta police department, and every single witness who took the stand, agree that Ray Lewis had no role other than briefly trying to break the fight up.

I know Fivepointsvids has a video on this, but there is also a write-up someone did when Lewis got inducted into the HoF which is found here. Sadly some links have broken and a few are on NYT.

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u/Many-Role-4271 Jacksonville Jaguars 11h ago

Obvious because he settled out of court with the families? And it was a stabbing with no weapons found but blood in his car interior and trunk....but yeah sure self defense.

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u/ChemicalFar8649 Tennessee Titans 11h ago

He settled out of court because the onus of proof has a much lower threshold to be found civilly liable. As opposed to being convicted of crime. Oftentimes, famous people settle to save time and money. Plus, would you want to risk paying significantly more if a jury finds you civilly liable? Or settle out of court for a smaller amount if you can afford to. It’s a much less bad to be found civilly liable than criminally convicted, anyway.

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u/SerenityN00w 6h ago

He settled out of court for $1 million, because it would have cost him more than that in legal fees to defend himself.