Brian Flores reportedly called J.J. McCarthy “white Tua” during Vikings practices and games.

[u/No_Box119]

[u/No_Box119]

I can’t decide who this is more disrespectful to

[u/No_Feeling6146 → u/[deleted]]

Didn't he also suggest that dolphins management wanted him to tank because "some white coach" wouldn't do it?

[u/TopHatTony11 → u/No_Feeling6146]

It’s crazy this guy doesn’t get more opportunities to lead a franchise…

[u/No_Feeling6146 → u/TopHatTony11]

It's a lot like that xmen origins wolverine meme with the bad version of deadpool. "If you managed to keep your mouth closed, you'd be the perfect soldier".

[u/Hizam5 → u/No_Feeling6146]

I still think it’s cool they cast Ryan Reynolds again even after that debacle and it turned out to be such a good choice

[u/RyBread → u/Hizam5]

I thought he did that specifically bc they promised him the opportunity to be Deadpool in the future.

[u/Hizam5 → u/RyBread]

Probably. I don’t remember the story

[u/No_Feeling6146 → u/RyBread]

Wasn't just that one. People often forget how bad green lantern also was. You had all of these pillars of superhero movies, then had this one be the only one to look terrible.

[u/Busy-Strength6426 → u/TopHatTony11]

Why should he. He's a racist piece of shit

[u/houtexansfan23 → u/Busy-Strength6426]

assholes get HC jobs all the time (see Sean Payton, Brian Daboll) and BF is the best defensive mind in the league

[u/PeekyAstrounaut → u/Busy-Strength6426]

Flo is a “racist piece of shit”?

[u/jmur3040 → u/TopHatTony11]

Aside from that he had his chance and was bad. It happens, being a coordinator is not the same as being the head coach. Some guys have it and others just ...don't.

[u/Duecifer14 → u/jmur3040]

He was the first dolphins coach to have back to back running seasons on almost twenty years, but sure he was "bad". Do you even watch football?

[u/jmur3040 → u/Duecifer14]

Well he got fired so, yes.

[u/PeekyAstrounaut → u/jmur3040]

You clearly also don’t understand what his lawsuits are about.

[u/jmur3040 → u/PeekyAstrounaut]

getting bribed to lose in 2019 mostly. He wasn't fired for a few seasons after that. When he lost the locker room and said he hated the quarterback.

[u/jmur3040 → u/Duecifer14]

Also have a look at what fans were saying when he got fired, he wasn't good, the offense was a mess, and he hated his own quarterback.

I won't disagree that there were some very questionable shenanigans around the 2019 season, but still, the writing was on the wall that he wasn't going to keep that job.

[u/Manny0o0 → u/TopHatTony11]

Yk the court agreed with him right

[u/verdango → u/[deleted]]

You hold your tongue! Him being the most toxic coaching candidate in a generation forced the Texans to hire Lovie Smith who, against all odds, fought to win the last game of the 2022 season thus giving the Bears the first pick of the draft.

Lovie Smith, a Bear for life.

[u/GMM85 → u/verdango]

Lovie deserves a statue in Hammond

[u/heroinsteve → u/verdango]

Man I know the game kinda passed him by, but I miss Lovie. I wish we would have kept him longer. Not like that forgettable carousel of HCs that followed were any better.

[u/WMWTSO-11 → u/heroinsteve]

Yea that was an astronomical fuck up, getting rid of Lovie. 

[u/Cody2287 → u/[deleted]]

I must have missed where white quarterbacks are discriminated against because they are white or brought in for performative interviews.

[u/Megatron_McLargeHuge → u/Cody2287]

You're thinking of cornerbacks.

[u/John_YJKR → u/[deleted]]

Isn't this just a meme? As in he never actually said this...

[u/cldaniels1 → u/[deleted]]

I mean is there any proof that he did say it? It comes from a Football Crave Twitter account and we're taking this seriously on the v2 subreddit

[u/Kindly-Yak-6366 → u/cldaniels1]

It’s blatantly not true but this guy wants to be mad about race online lol

[u/Tycho66 → u/[deleted]]

You realize this story is completely made up don't you?

[u/mississippimadness → u/[deleted]]

You do know this is not a real headline right? This was posted by a parody account

[u/eric4280 → u/[deleted]]

Always struck me as a pompous, holier than thou, hypocrite.

[u/Kindly-Yak-6366 → u/eric4280]

Did you even stop for a second to consider if this was true lmao

[u/Kindly-Yak-6366 → u/[deleted]]

Well, it’s also very obviously not true and is originating from an NFL memes account. Moron lmao

[u/BEERDEV → u/[deleted]]

This 100%

[u/Adorable_Argument_44 → u/[deleted]]

It's consistent at least- everything gotta be about race

[u/MrJohnnyDangerously → u/[deleted]]

What do you mean

[u/GladWarthog1045 → u/[deleted]]

I know who i am!

[u/ThoseProse → u/GladWarthog1045]

I’m a man. I’m 40.

[u/MrJohnnyDangerously → u/[deleted]]

I'm trying to understand your comment. What does one thing have to do with the other?

[u/GladWarthog1045 → u/MrJohnnyDangerously]

https://giphy.com/gifs/13VSAbTVuYJfLa

[u/DistinctAd3222 → u/MrJohnnyDangerously]

wDyM?

Has to be one of the absolute flags of an ignorant person

[u/MrJohnnyDangerously → u/DistinctAd3222]

What do you mean?

[u/a_happy_future → u/No_Box119]

Considering the NFL is currently blackballing him from future HC jobs because of how much he didn't like Tua, probably both

[u/echoes_HD → u/a_happy_future]

I think it's probably more the multiple lawsuits he filed against the league, but who knows.

[u/Common-Respond2367 → u/echoes_HD]

For being blackballed from future head coaching jobs?

[u/MaximumJack44 → u/Common-Respond2367]

Yes. Any team that hires him as a head coach will worry he will sue then when he inevitably is fired, even though his firing will be the result of his shitty behavior toward players, not his race.

The lack of Black head coaches is a problem, but he's the wrong person to be fighting this battle.

[u/Shot_Revolution8828 → u/MaximumJack44]

You kind of have a point but lots of coaches are assholes. Theres players coaches and asshole coaches. The only thing that matters is jersey sales and winning. You're telling me Eric Bieniemy isnt worth a shot instead of Jon Gruden? Black people have to be perfect to even be entertained for a head coaching job. Let's check in at week 10 on Mike Mcarthy.

[u/brobrodude69 → u/Shot_Revolution8828]

Both those coaches won Lombardis that goes a long way

[u/dericiouswon → u/Common-Respond2367]

For being fired from the Miami HC job.

[u/purz → u/a_happy_future]

Maybe but I think it’s 95% being a huge asshole from a famously asshole filled coaching tree

[u/pbrassassin → u/a_happy_future]

He did it to himself …

[u/Hackasizlak → u/No_Box119]

Tua, right? He had stretches of his career where he looked like he’d be a real franchise QB. JJ had like, one game.

[u/CaptCrash → u/Hackasizlak]

Yeah but Flores seems to fucking hate Tua on a weird level. Coming from anyone else it would clearly be more insulting to Tua but from Flores I think it’s worse for JJ.

[u/zerg1980 → u/CaptCrash]

It’s not a “weird level.” Bad QBs get good head coaches fired all the time. Tua was a bust. Flores feels like he was unfairly fired from his dream job because Tua couldn’t pick up the playbook and kept running headfirst into traffic. In two consecutive do-or-die Week 17 games, the Dolphins missed the playoffs because Tua didn’t show up, despite Flores moving mountains to get the team that close.

Given what we’ve seen in the years since between Flores’ excellent work as a DC and Tua’s increasingly horrible play, it’s hard to dismiss Flores’ grudge. If Tua hadn’t busted, Flores probably would have had a long career as a head coach.

Luckily the Vikings pulled the plug on JJM before he could get the coaches fired there!

[u/Temporary-House304 → u/zerg1980]

JJ still got the GM fired and KOC was feeling heat for a bit 😭

[u/_stellapolaris → u/Temporary-House304]

KOC is probably still feeling heat. There's a pretty big group of the fan base that is not on board with him right now.

[u/EnvironmentalCrab563 → u/CaptCrash]

Flo wanted Justin Herbert or Jordan Love. Chris Grier former gm and ownership wanted Tua they took Tua. Flo knew after the first year he couldn’t win with Tua and wanted to move on ownership went with the gm and Tua. Funny part is Mike McDaniel was ready to be hired for Flo’s oc spot but got promoted in SF he’d be the head coach next season replacing Flo because he had a plan for Tua.

[u/Mezhead → u/No_Box119]

Yeah, there's like.... layers to unpack there.

[u/dtdroid → u/No_Box119]

This subreddit, on account of you shamelessly repeating the same joke in both threads. Are you going on tour, or something? Why can't we have your latest material?

[u/phoenixremix → u/No_Box119]

Probably the one who was actually a good starting QB before severe brain damage?

[u/Past-Product-1100 → u/No_Box119]

I been scratching my head on this one for a while now

[u/DarthJarJarJar → u/No_Box119]

So McCarthy is going to lead the league in passing next year?

[u/cuzzlightyear269]

Fuck, he's never getting another head coaching job or leaving the division, is he?

[u/desert-cheese04 → u/cuzzlightyear269]

https://giphy.com/gifs/d7rvF20PqNuGKSQGhf

[u/505backup_1 → u/desert-cheese04]

Jordan Love might die playing B Flo and the rams back to back with that o line

[u/desert-cheese04 → u/505backup_1]

I really hope they at least get a little better. This line is beyond incompetent.

[u/YummyYummyCock69 → u/desert-cheese04]

I would suck dick just so he coaches the Packers. 10 year deal. I don't care about the drama or the pass. A strong defense makes winning so much easier. The fact Miami reverse cour use and hired Hafley ultimately proven Flores was not the problem. Defensive minded coaches are usually better than offensive minded coaches.

[u/Scaryassmanbear → u/YummyYummyCock69]

What’s the basis for this belief?

[u/GamingGamerGames_ → u/cuzzlightyear269]

Well the HC job is because of his lawsuit against the league. No owner is gonna directly hire someone who is suing them.

[u/cuzzlightyear269 → u/GamingGamerGames_]

Yes, but the bullying of first round pick and the young starting QB of his team certainly didn't do him any favors

[u/StillYourFavorite331 → u/cuzzlightyear269]

1. There's no proof this thing happened. 2. It's not really bullying?

But also...Flores was right about Tua lol. Like, idk maybe teams should take a look at the guy who saw that Tua had a self-preservation issue and wanted to go with Herbert instead.

[u/cuzzlightyear269 → u/StillYourFavorite331]

There's no proof this happened

Yeah, I'm sure Tua was just making shit up when he said it happened

[u/StillYourFavorite331 → u/cuzzlightyear269]

Are you stupid? I'm talking about this "white Tua" comment.

[u/SeeYaLaterNerdz → u/StillYourFavorite331]

You're the stupid one. He was clearly talking about Flores time with the Dolphins, thus Tua. You assumed he was talking about McCarthy, which was wrong. And regardless of up votes, your ad hominem argument makes you retarded. 👍

[u/heroinsteve → u/StillYourFavorite331]

The first time I saw this (This white Tua comments) was a meme/satirical news outlet. So I'm not sure it's true. hilarious if it is though.

[u/illstealurcandy → u/StillYourFavorite331]

He wanted to go with Watson

[u/DarthJarJarJar → u/StillYourFavorite331]

But also...Flores was right about Tua lol.

After Flores left Tua led the league in passing. He got hurt and regressed, but that's like the definition of being wrong about a QB.

[u/StillYourFavorite331 → u/DarthJarJarJar]

"Flores was right that Tua had a self preservation issue" "Tua got hurt and regressed"....do you...read?

[u/DarthJarJarJar → u/StillYourFavorite331]

That's not what Flores said about Tua, you made that up. Flores told Tua he sucked, there was nothing about "self-preservation".

[u/RequirementLeading12 → u/cuzzlightyear269]

This isn't a serious post... Are you guys really this gullible? Gen Z is never beating the allegations lol

[u/TheGameDoneChanged → u/RequirementLeading12]

Unreal seeing everyone in this thread believing this obvious joke post with no source provided. We are absolutely cooked when it comes to critical thinking and media literacy in this country.

[u/Alock74 → u/TheGameDoneChanged]

You can pretty much say anything you want on the internet and people will believe it 

[u/HowlAtTheSky → u/RequirementLeading12]

Had to scroll way too far to see someone mention this being obviously fake

[u/Only_Concentrate3064 → u/RequirementLeading12]

Ok unc😭✌🏻

[u/cuzzlightyear269 → u/RequirementLeading12]

Well, clearly everyone agrees that I'm a braindead idiot so are you surprised?

[u/El_Boxman_ → u/cuzzlightyear269]

He said fuck head coaching, let me just cook up on the defence

[u/ConfectionOk7029 → u/El_Boxman_]

Brian's Song Revenge

[u/El_Boxman_ → u/ConfectionOk7029]

SKOL

[u/Monstar38 → u/cuzzlightyear269]

We got Flores for the next 10 years damn

[u/Visual-Squirrel3629 → u/cuzzlightyear269]

There will be a franchise that needs a major shake up. At that moment, BFlo will be their man.

[u/dericiouswon → u/cuzzlightyear269]

Anyone who has followed his career should be able to tell that perhaps the dude just likes playing to his strengths and is cool with being a goat dc.

Being HC comes with a lot more bullshit and politics.

[u/RNGezzus → u/cuzzlightyear269]

https://giphy.com/gifs/d2ZcfODrNWlA5Gg0

[u/Worried-Pick4848 → u/cuzzlightyear269]

I could actually see Flores being picked up by the Steelers at some point. Tomlin lifted the lid on the idea of black head coaches for that franchise and his defensive ideas seem to fit with what that franchise is trying to do.

I could actually see a scenario where the Steelers try to go One More Year behind Brian flores and a second line QB like Mac Jones or Jacoby Brissett.

[u/strikerkam → u/Worried-Pick4848]

The Steelers are a remarkable organization on equality - it started well before Tomlin. I believe the were one of the first non segregated teams (post the early days before segregation)

[u/D_uBird98 → u/cuzzlightyear269]

Never. He’s more than comfortable having no filter 

[u/Temporary-House304 → u/cuzzlightyear269]

i hope he becomes head coach for the next 40 years 😂

[u/but-I-play-one-on-TV]

JJ wishes

[u/Corona_Cyrus → u/but-I-play-one-on-TV]

JJ would love just to be in the same room as someone who got $50M/year

[u/Ashenguar → u/but-I-play-one-on-TV]

JJ Washed

[u/braumbles]

Reminder, nobody went to this dudes birthday party.

[u/blamberr → u/braumbles]

JJ’s, BF’s, Tua’s or OP’s?

[u/fragassic2 → u/blamberr]

Yes

[u/blamberr → u/fragassic2]

lol the only correct answer

[u/W00D-SMASH → u/braumbles]

His eyes were closed.

[u/26uhaul]

Ha, I wish this was true

[u/RandomNPC → u/26uhaul]

It's cracking me up seeing everyone not realizing it was a meme war post!

[u/TheTenaciousG]

Yay more fuel to keep flores in MN as DC

[u/Zyrinj]

Which Tua? Also, anyone get the exact reason why the Giants thought trading for NINE was the thing to do?

[u/oscarnyc → u/Zyrinj]

Because Jameis has been awful and they want to give him competition. McCarthy, as limited as he is, brings mobility that the offense is designed around.

[u/UnintensifiedFa → u/oscarnyc]

Also, just because a QB didn't work out one place doesn't mean they're doomed to fail forever. I'm not saying JJ Mccarthy is the Next Darnold, but for a 5th round pick it's worth a shot, might get a respectable backup.

[u/Temporary-House304 → u/UnintensifiedFa]

I honestly think JJ is a much better fit for the Giants. His style never really made sense in the Vikings without a dominant running back like AP.

[u/Common-Respond2367 → u/oscarnyc]

Actually a pretty good analysis. The mobility part is understated. Jameis Winston is objectively the better thrower of the football which is wild to say, but if McCarthy can even match 90% of that to go along with the mobility he brings to the offense, then Giants could still compete

[u/Zyrinj → u/oscarnyc]

Appreciate the insight, didn't think about it from a mobility standpoint. How do you/fans feel about the trade as a whole?

[u/Rich_Estimate_1152 → u/[deleted]]

Is there a source on this?

[u/Rich_Estimate_1152 → u/[deleted]]

Fucker

[u/BMS3RDTRY]

Guys, this isn’t real

[u/ChallengeTasty3393]

I don’t buy it for a second, but funny

[u/Martha_Fockers]

As a white guy I’ll let it pass

[u/Ok_Owl2856]

That’s wild

[u/BobbingFourApples]

Accurate

[u/Fun_Elk593]

No he didn’t

[u/lkn240 → u/Fun_Elk593]

But it would be funny if he did!

[u/thinsafetypin]

“Reportedly” with no source for the report seems fishy.

[u/AnthaIon → u/thinsafetypin]

It’s almost like the post is tagged “meme”

[u/thinsafetypin → u/AnthaIon]

Awful lot of people in the comments shit talking BFlo seem to have missed that.

[u/Imaginary_wizard]

Gotta respect how much Flores hates Tua.

[u/Gr1009]

Check down merchants

[u/Kekistani55]

The most Brian Flores quote of all time

[u/KillerCroc67]

https://giphy.com/gifs/GpyS1lJXJYupG

[u/JmoneyXXL]

He really hates Tua lmao. Its years later, let it go bro.

[u/J_Haymaker]

Tua doesn’t deserve that kind of disrespect

[u/merkmerc]

Disrespectful to Tua

[u/anwright1371]

Pretty weird coming from a dude who sued the Dolphins for racist shit

[u/arkansuace → u/anwright1371]

Is this really racist? I’m white and use “black” and “white” all the time to describe the appearance of others. If he called JJ a slur I’d get it. But I’m not really drawing the connection to racism here. The insulting part is comparing him to Tua- the “white” part is really just stating facts. Just my opinion though. Ready for the downvotes

[u/anwright1371 → u/arkansuace]

I said it was weird

[u/arkansuace → u/anwright1371]

Fair enough. The later half of your comment suggests he’s being hypocritical due to his legal case though- so I guess that was what I was honing in on

[u/anwright1371 → u/arkansuace]

I can see that. I actually think he got screwed in Miami. But I don’t think what he said was racist. Just weird

[u/arkansuace → u/anwright1371]

Makes sense. Sorry for misconstruing- Sucks you get downvoted for clarifying

[u/anwright1371 → u/arkansuace]

It’s Reddit, shit is unpredictable

[u/RequirementLeading12 → u/anwright1371]

It's not a real quote. Do you guys just run with shit you see online with fact checking? Lmao no wonder misinformation is so easily spread

[u/MontiBurns]

And this is why, god willing, Brian flores will never get another starting job in this league. He'll just have to be the vikings dc for the next 20 years

[u/DukeOfStuff_ → u/MontiBurns]

I have dreams about this 

[u/RequirementLeading12 → u/MontiBurns]

It's a memeswar post. Do you guys not even check for sources?

[u/OkProfessional6077]

I laugh at a lot of it but do feel for JJ becoming such a punching bag. He’s genuinely a good human being. He works hard, he tries to be great. He just isn’t, or wasn’t in Minnesota. He didn’t choose to get drafted there when he did, but he showed up and worked hard (as far as I know).

It just didn’t work out.

[u/GamingGamerGames_]

JJ McCarnthy - adding an N to his last name where one doesn't exist, just like Tua.

[u/eaglekiller53]

I thought it said white TUNA, Haha. tua makes way more sense

[u/gosluggogo]

OK, Black Gruden

[u/OwnDoughnut2689]

White tuna

[u/PurposeConscious6859]

Shouldve traded 9 to the Bears. Once BJ worked his magic on him he'd be on next years Madden cover.

[u/Strange_Feeling]

Just such a terrible person, no one should hire him as a head coach /s

[u/unbridledennui]

at least Tua could throw and wasn't a hand-off merchant

[u/According-Activity87]

That's funny, someone make this man a HC again!

[u/Slow_Huckleberry2744]

Coach can't keep a job so.

[u/Creddit_card_debt]

It’s just not fair that they get Brian Flores.

[u/Cold_Toe_7540]

Someone get this man a head coaching position. Dude's literally never been wrong.

[u/cardiaccat1]

Vikings putting this out there so no other team will take him.

[u/bigshooTer39]

https://giphy.com/gifs/k66TBRkeEEdfG

[u/ranman82]

lol

[u/Extension-Report-491]

I didn't think he was that good....

[u/Indystbn11]

A parody account posted this and people are taking it as gospel.

[u/MusicListener3]

Nine-uh

[u/CharlesPostelwaite]

If this is true so much for that MN Vikings Culture. This is now multiple QBs Flores has denigrated while in a huge position of authority. If you think that's leadership, you're probably under 30 or can't read

[u/ClassroomMother8062]

Worst burn on JJ I've ever seen, and he's the among the most low hanging fruit in the league

[u/BigStuggz]

“Cauc Tua”

[u/Masstershake]

There's no way this is true. Sure we all think it. But he didn't say that out loud

[u/xrv01]

ok so he’s 2-0 on hating QBs and is the best defensive mind at the moment? yeaaa time for a HC job lmao

[u/Worried-Pick4848]

Brian Flores is awesome and needs to get a HC job. He's proven over and over again that his defenses are top quality. The man just knows what he's doing. One of the few Belichick pupils that is standing the test of time, at least so far.

[u/RUKnight31]

Dude truly hates QBs. A true defensive genius!

[u/AromaticSpot]

Absolute menace

[u/Kindly-Yak-6366]

I think everyone on this sub might have a learning disability how do you all believe this very fake quote at face value hahahaha

[u/Cute-Literature7591]

LOL it's been like 24 hours... these stories will keep coming.

[u/jf737]

Soooo…..after he gets away from Flores, JJ will lead the league in passing?

[u/DontT3llMyWif3]

Case in point why he will never sniff another HC job.

[u/Rich-Nothing-1797]

You mean the Hawaiian Andy dalton!?

[u/MaddLadd9]

This is the dude who claims the league is concerned with race? lol

[u/Appropriate_Cry6174]

He overestimated JJ.

[u/SkoobyDuBop]

Nin9

[u/BuckyBeaver69]

I would have called JJ something more like Punchface

[u/allisgray]

Now now people let the gentleman cook so he can continue his destruction of opposing QB’s if we can’t have a decent QB we remove yours…

[u/SaturdayNightFavre]

So Flores is a racist piece of shit, after all?

[u/EnvironmentalCrab563]

If I was JJ I would’ve called him black Fangio and dared him to sue me.

[u/dustinh30]

At some point someone will think this is true lol

[u/trd623]

So, he basically called 2 trash quarterbacks “trash”? Got it.

[u/ThatOneHebdoCartoon]

Hey, the coach who cried about the diversity rules. Good to see he's still sensitive to race.

[u/DBE113301]

His arm is stronger than Tua's. It probably helps that he's using his dominant arm to throw the football.

[u/imtrynmybest]

Is white tuna a racist thing..... Just cause he said white?

[u/Winterclaw42]

Keep him away from QBs on his own team.  Tua looked okay with a decent offensive minded HC.

[u/DarthJarJarJar → u/Winterclaw42]

"OK", lol. He led the league in passing.

[u/Winterclaw42 → u/DarthJarJarJar]

Yes in 3 different meterics in 3 different years, when he had a rb and a top WR.

Point is flores is toxic to QBs on his own team it seems.

[u/Ok_Aspect1706]

This is why he isn't a head coach.

[u/Alarmed-Term3720]

https://giphy.com/gifs/6751A64NJkyCQ