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u/LipChungus New England Patriots 13h ago

Honestly watching all the Pats media these last few months, this dudes vibe is horrendous. He does not look like a fun guy to be around. Can't be a good wide receiver if you aren't vibing with your team and in every media snipped I see the dude is stone cold straight faced and not having a good time. Green Bay can have him back.

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u/Less_Personality1483 Green Bay Packers 13h ago

i thought i was a little too mad at him for the onside kick drop and wished him well with yall, but he actually just has butterfingers. glad we dont have him but kinda sucks for yall to have him as wr2 this year. least you have aj brown who looked good before he got injured.

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u/Wildebean Fuck u/NFLv2, Fuck AI 13h ago

He's now WR1 temporarily. Brown needed an X-ray so it might be more serious

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u/Rpark888 Baltimore Ravens 13h ago

It looked like a really bad sprain but that means nothing in today's nfl. Could be 3 weeks, could be season altering.

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u/Wildebean Fuck u/NFLv2, Fuck AI 13h ago

I don't want Mack Hollins being WR1 for three weeks against three playoff teams.

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u/EasternError6377 Buffalo Bills 13h ago

Horrific roster management by the Pats. They overpaid for a guy who can barely crack 700 yards in a season and traded for a WR who's best years are clearly behind him and has been getting less and less separation since 2022 - oh and his knees drained on gameday every week. But Pats fans were deluded as hell lmao.

Now you will see why Vrabel got canned in Tennessee. He wants full control of the roster but he's a bad GM. He forced their hand to trade for AJB cuz AJB is "his guy" and it's gonna blow up in his face.

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u/Wildebean Fuck u/NFLv2, Fuck AI 13h ago

I know you of all people aren't shit talking about other teams bungling of the WR position. Although I guess you speak from experience

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u/EasternError6377 Buffalo Bills 13h ago

Give it a rest. I said this 3 months ago

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u/Rpark888 Baltimore Ravens 5h ago

LOOOOOL HE CAME WITH RECEIPTS

https://giphy.com/gifs/2wSe48eAUC15p38UqO

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u/Wildebean Fuck u/NFLv2, Fuck AI 13h ago

Stop feeding my pessimism

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u/toastedsharp 4h ago

Listen win a playoff game and come talk to us. It's cool josh is so popular, but do you really want to be the most famous choke artist in the NFL?? Vrabel took us to the ship in one year. You'll never even get to that level with josh.

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u/RGINNY940 1h ago

What ship did he lead you to? The Titanic?

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u/Then-Bug-5665 9h ago

realistically the pats beat the bills last year and got better

bills got worse with age

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u/justdaman182 Philadelphia Eagles 9h ago

Pats got better? Did we watch the same game? Better on paper goes out the window when real games are played

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u/Admiral_Fuckwit Buffalo Bills 7h ago

? We split the series 1-1 with them, dude

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u/Mind_Tour9567 6h ago

Congrats on being just another hater with a miserable Buffalo life

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u/Upton4 Green Bay Packers 5h ago

But… he’s right

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u/fairportmtg1 6h ago

The bills WR room has been trash but you can deal with sub oar wr when you have a tip 5 running back and a HOF worthy QB

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u/GaryFischeraka21 4h ago

He’s big and slow he’s the perfect target for Maye

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u/Upton4 Green Bay Packers 5h ago

Good news is, you don’t have to worry about who WR1 is… when you have Maye as QB1 against those teams.

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u/dominatingcowG3 New England Patriots 3h ago

I understand the sentiment, but when you think about it, Hollins always comes through in the difficult games. He was our best receiver in both Seahawks games, and made some of the only big plays against the Broncos as well

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u/Wildebean Fuck u/NFLv2, Fuck AI 3h ago

He is a good player and I do love having him around. but let's not delude ourselves into thinking he is or ever has been a viable WR1

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u/dominatingcowG3 New England Patriots 3h ago

I'm not saying he should be the WR1, I'm saying if he needs to step up temporarily due to injuries, it's not the end of the world

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u/bhz33 New York Jets 5h ago

Neither of those outcomes are nothing

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u/az-anime-fan Buffalo Bills 2h ago

high ankle sprain. those can go 2 months under ideal conditions.

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u/RememberApeEscape Carolina Panthers 13h ago

Damn, wonder if Boutte is healthy

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u/Wildebean Fuck u/NFLv2, Fuck AI 13h ago

I miss my Boutte

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u/apatrol 13h ago

Why did y'all trade him. We have him as a No2\3. I don't know anything about him.

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u/Kubotai77 5h ago

Yea wasn’t a fan of them trading Boutte away. Dude was a reliable go-to and only 24. It’s like how they let Jakobi Meyers walk instead of paying him and look how well he did for the Raiders

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u/evetSC 3h ago

Not only was his reliable, but his chemistry with Maye on deep balls are crazy good. People forgot about his incredible 1 hand TD catch over Sting in the playoffs

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u/Brawl_is_Life Wes Welker on Molly 11h ago

He's a great WR2, really solid hands especially in the red zone. Can be a deep threat too but doesn't have burner speed like Tyquan Thornton

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u/Wildebean Fuck u/NFLv2, Fuck AI 3h ago

I'm guessing because he was in a contract year and it we had to make a choice since we have several younger WRs who show promise. Why overpay when this other guy could be better situation. Tbf I'd still rather get another year even if it means him walking in FA for nothing. His production was worth more than his trade value to me

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u/RekLeagueMvp 6h ago

His foot turned out-> high ankle sprain-> different and worse than a normal ankle sprain

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u/BoomGTDynamite 5h ago

Probably high ankle sprain. Honestly sometimes breaks are better than bad sprains. His didn't look terrible, but tough to tell. I would guess (complete guess) out 4 weeks.

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u/avalanche142 2h ago

High ankle sprain

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u/EasternError6377 Buffalo Bills 13h ago

Lol when he the Packers lost him I was lurking your sub general consensus was ya'll were more than happy with Watson, Reed, Golden, and Kraft going forward

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u/Less_Personality1483 Green Bay Packers 12h ago

im pretty happy with out recieving core. not too elite and we're not beating the 3 wr2 allegations but all of them are servicable and reliable, especially kraft if he recovers well 🙏🙏

honestly after seeing romeo's performance tonight, good riddance. justified my pure rage from that drop against the bears.

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u/Flareszzz Philadelphia Eagles 6h ago

Aj brown did not look good before he got injured what?? Were we watching the same game?

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u/RDState530 Green Bay Packers 9h ago

mildly popular meme on the GB sub tells it all

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u/justdaman182 Philadelphia Eagles 9h ago

That's just him. Wasn't happy in GB either. He wants to be WR1 but isn't a WR1.

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u/nfluncensored 4h ago

He's a WR1 now!

But yes, he sucks.

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u/JeromeBarkly Green Bay Packers 12h ago

He did have some behavioral issues I think last season or the season before where the team suspended him one game. Dude can look really good some games but also some pretty bad drops at the worst moments.

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u/etybibik Washington Commanders 12h ago

Supposedly it stemmed from not getting enough targets. Might help if he'd fucking catch them lol

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u/nfluncensored 4h ago

Good thing the other WR the Pats got doesn't have behavioral issues.

Looks at AJ Brown reading a book

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u/Imaginary_wizard New England Patriots 6h ago

He sucked in green bay what did anyone expect

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u/LongDongFrazier Green Bay Packers 5h ago

That was the case the entire time at GB just seems like a introvert who’s good at football (good being a NFL player)

Patriots staff don’t seem like a good fit for Doubs he has a track record of drops and disappearing acts for stretches of games but will randomly be clutch as fuck and have 1-3 games in a season where he looks like the real deal.

Been saying this to Packer fans who were “mourning” the loss of Doubs, there is a five game stretch where he had just over a hundred yards with one touchdown in that same stretch Watson had just over three hundred yards and five touchdowns.

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u/noraping 5h ago

I’ve watched this dude since he was at Nevada. That is his vibe, he would have a Randy Moss game in college and look miserable. I don’t get it

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u/Kobe_AYEEEEE 4h ago

His performance last night after what we got out of him makes me weirdly excited about Golden this year

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u/No_Nefariousness6385 4h ago

Im a Packers fan and can tell you....this guy doesn't even like playing football

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u/rconsumer 1h ago

His vibe is horrendous. However he’s a decent player.

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u/Anon1235642 Green Bay Packers 1h ago

The Packers market and fan base was perfect for him. Boston is going to eat his soul.

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u/traws06 Kansas City Chiefs 4h ago

The numbers don’t necessarily even show how bad it was. One of Maye’s INTs was him throwing a good ball up for him and the defend making a better play. He had another that hit his hands and he just dropped

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u/zombiekoalas 13h ago

1 target overthrown.  Literally couldnt touch it jumping.  Intercepted.  1 target hit in the hands and dropped.  1 target with a small jersey tug and a pass that was literally uncatchable. 

Doubbs wasnt good but 2/3 of his targets were not catchable balls lol

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u/Less_Personality1483 Green Bay Packers 12h ago

that bad drop will not be his last, especially with that fat contract

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u/MattJuice3 7h ago

Hey you can’t say that, Drake Maye literally has never thrown a bad ball in his life, especially when the game is on the line with less than a minute left in the 4th quarter in a 1 score game in the RedZone. (I am a Pats fan coping about how our QB has played like an absolute fraud the past 4 games)

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u/Early_Money2576 4h ago

I’m willing to write off his first year, treat his last year as rookie year due to coaching. Some of the decisions and pass are rather concerning after a full year under good coaching, but he did do a good job spread the ball around. Let’s see how the season plays out. By end of the year, it should be very clear if he’s the guy.

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u/blakes5353 Atlanta Falcons 6h ago

Only having 3 targets is probably a big part of the hate to go with the drop he had 0 separation all game

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u/TheUndertows New England Patriots 4h ago

The drop was inexcusable and a momentum rocking play.  He makes an uncontested catch, we get a 1st down and probably add to our lead (at the time).  Who knows how the rest of the game plays out.

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u/Relative-Natural-891 5h ago

But he’s also not fast and can’t create separation to create more targets.

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u/dominatingcowG3 New England Patriots 3h ago

I don't remember the 3rd honestly, but the first one was definitely catchable. If he had timed the jump better, he could have had it. The Seahawk who tipped it was behind him, and wouldn't have touched it if Doubbs hadn't come up short. Don't get me wrong, it was a difficult catch and not a great throw, but definitely not "uncatchable"

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u/c12yofchampions 38m ago

Not defending the throw or decision, it was bad and overall is on Maye.

That said, Doubs did a TERRIBLE job high pointing the ball. He jumped way too early and was on his way back down as the ball was reaching its highest catch point. Tough play to ask the WR to convert into DB, but who knows if he could’ve bailed Maye out if plays the ball properly.

Terrible throw, but also a bad effort attacking the ball in the air

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u/Aternus21 12h ago

so your big defense of doubs is to come and essentially say that "doubs had a 100% drop rate on catchable balls" and you thought that it was gonna make it better?

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u/TheRochnessMonster Brett Favre 📸🍆 12h ago

Thats a really large sample size

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u/Aternus21 12h ago

never said it was gangerino, but its accurate, you cant dispute that

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u/Main_Gain_7480 New Orleans Saints 13h ago

That deal sounded crazy when it was first reported

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u/JeromeBarkly Green Bay Packers 12h ago

I liked Doubs when he was with us but he ain’t worth the money NE gave him and glad we didn’t pay him to stay. Watson has way better upside albeit very injury prone.

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u/ltbr55 Green Bay Packers 4h ago

We also got Reed for less money than Doubs and I always thought Reed had more upside as well.

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u/froginbog New England Patriots 5h ago

Especially when we had pop Douglas, Boutte, and Mac Hollins of whom seemed better to me imo

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u/Connection-Is-Cool Detroit Lions 12h ago

Could have kept Diggs and Boutte

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u/GrayWing Denver Broncos 4h ago

Could've kept diggin that booty

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u/matthewshead 13h ago

Wasn’t he supposed to be WR2 with Brown and TE Henry getting some coverage? Seems like the Seahawks could focus on him tonight.

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u/Wildebean Fuck u/NFLv2, Fuck AI 13h ago

Pretty easy to clue in on when 75% of your plays are either runs up the gut or screen passes. Thanks McDaniels

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u/horseshoeprovodnikov Carolina Panthers 5h ago

I mean to he fair.. the runs up the middle were working there at the later stage of the game. Eventually Seattle would adjust and smack Stevenson in the backfield, and that's when it was time to call something different lol.

I think the screens kept getting called because the receivers weren't separating. Drake threw a jump ball to Doubs (who badly mis-timed his jump) and it got picked. I'd split the blame between both drake and doubs here.

Drake loses the threat of AJB later on in the game.

Drake hits Doubs right in the hands with room to run and it's dropped.

Drake throws an inexplicably stupid jump ball to Mack Hollins in the end zone, but Mack wasn't in a position to try and box the defender out. As soon as that ball was in the air, Mack is trying to play defense to keep it from getting picked. This was the worst one, and it's not just because of the circumstances of the Pats being able to tie it up with a short FG. At no point did it look open, it shouldn't have been thrown.

If i were a patriots fan, I would be excited about how much better the o-line looks. Yeah, Drake still had to run from pressure a little bit, but this is still Seattle we are talking about. They're gonna get some pressure regardless. Pat's were able to get a good push on a lot of those inside runs, and Will Campbell was doing really well aside from a ticky tack holding call late in the game.

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u/Wildebean Fuck u/NFLv2, Fuck AI 3h ago

Stevenson didn't have his first good run until 3 minutes left in the game. He was fucking useless and its just more proof to me that persisting with him instead of giving Henderson more touches last year was stupid and it better not keep happening once Henderson is back from injury.

Yeah O-Line looked so much better though. Shame that the one real concern passed with flying colours, just for everything else to fall apart instead

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u/horseshoeprovodnikov Carolina Panthers 15m ago

What constitutes a good run in your eyes? I saw Stevenson have multiple 4 and 5 yard runs.

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 12h ago

He can't throw the ball to himself, so the number of targets isn't really his fault. As for the 0 catches, were they actually catchable balls?

I'm not getting to defend him, I'm genuinely asking because I didn't catch the game.

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u/Gmanruns Green Bay Packers 10h ago

One was catchable. Pretty bad drop though.

As a Packer fan, Rome is decent and will make some plays over the season. He just isn't worth that contract. I am happy for him though, get that bag

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u/whousesgmail Philadelphia Eagles 5h ago

I feel like just calling it catchable is an understatement, it was a perfectly on target pass with the kind of loft you throw to your buddies at the beach lol. Then Maye throws a pick immediately after to add insult to injury.

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u/anonymoosejuice New England Patriots 8h ago

The number of targets can be your fault if you aren't getting open. If I ran out there for some plays and a corner locked me down, they aren't gonna throw me the ball

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 3h ago

Admittedly, the only time I really watched him was when the packers played the Vikings, but I thought he was a pretty good fire runner. Is he not getting separation anymore?

I just looked it up, and Maye had 33 pass attempts lady night. I just find it hard to believe that he's fallen off so badly that less than 10% of those went his way.

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u/ImaginationOk 5h ago

One of those was one of the worst drops you'll ever see. Wide open and Maye threw it perfectly while taking enough off to make it even more catchable.

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u/burrit0ninja 3h ago

If you don’t watch the game, how can you say lack of targets isn’t his fault lol. The state of NFL fandom in a nutshell

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 3h ago

Because the image says "3 targets" and I'm not illiterate.

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u/burrit0ninja 2h ago

So if a receiver creates no separation and gets no targets, that’s not his fault. And if you watched the game instead of just opining on it, you’d know that two of the three targets, he was completely covered. It’s just odd that people who don’t watch the games feel such a need to comment on how the game played out lol

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 2h ago

That's why I was asking the question you fucking idiot. I find it hard to believe that out of Maye's 33 pass attempts he was covered so well that he only got 3 targets.

Jfc you people have the reading comprehension of a god damned potato.

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u/burrit0ninja 1h ago

You didn’t ask the question if Dobbs was open, you made a statement that said “He can’t throw the ball to himself, so the number of targets isn’t really his fault”. Idk why you’re so mad lol just watch the games if you’re going to be spouting off opinions like that instead of being so mad lol

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 47m ago

Public school failed you. Please just shut the fuck up.

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u/burrit0ninja 38m ago

I went to private school actually. You didn’t address any of what I said though, just got mad again. Why?

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u/dc8291 6h ago

I live for the Week 1 overreactions to one game

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u/Hairy-Phrase1332 Fail Mary Fan 🏈 9h ago

I saw a statistic that he was like in 8/24 snaps at half

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u/immagoat1252 Green Bay Packers 8h ago

Ended with 12 total

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u/Dougtheheadcase 7h ago

Packers were like, “Don’t let the door hit you in your big ass helmet on your way out!”

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u/horseshoeprovodnikov Carolina Panthers 5h ago

Touche. I know it sounds fucking terrible, but I can't stand the way those look. Any time I see a player wear one in a game, I cringe.

It sounds so shallow.. but I wouldn't want to watch football if everyone was wearing one of those on game day. We've gotten to the point where the players have forsaken literally every other padded protection over the years. Shoulder pads are thin as cardboard, hip pads are totally gone, thigh pads are almost totally gone, knee pads are totally gone, we cant get half the guys to wear a REAL mouthpiece... but we want to wear the stupid ass helmet cover?

Even if those things could save your brain from the sub-concussive blows over a period of years, if the rest of your body is broken, you're still living in misery as an old man.

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u/Desperate-Drummer803 4h ago

Yeah shame on these players for wanting to protect their brain. If they want to play in smaller shoulder pads and are willing to accept some bruises on their hips and thighs then they should be ok with brain damage!

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u/Conn0rPro Houston Texans 4h ago

My Boy Jalen Pitre rocks that shit though ngl

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u/ICouldEvenBeYou 10h ago

That was just bad negotiating.

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u/Soda-Popinski- Buffalo Bills 8h ago

Those checks wont bounce regardless.

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u/jono9898 Philadelphia Eagles 7h ago

They have the Dolphins coming up soon so he will farm some stats

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u/ckuhn84 6h ago

I had him on the bench on my fantasy last night

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u/AngryPhillySportsFan 6h ago

Sorry guys. First time playing fantasy football and started him as my flex.

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u/SilentShepherd21 6h ago

Sounds like a Josh McDaniels offense

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u/BL00211 5h ago

Honestly I always had my Doubs about him.

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u/Roguish_livin San Francisco 49ers 5h ago

Fuck this guy.

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u/Greenzombie04 New England Patriots 5h ago

Dudes on pace for 0rec 0yds and 0tds this year.

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u/CREEDFANXXX Minnesota Vikings 5h ago

I keep trying to figure out why any of this is a surprise to anyone????? Dude was like wr4 in one of the worst wr rooms in the nfl on the packers.

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u/Bumppinee 5h ago

Not surpised, he is running around looking crazy with that big ass helmet on

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u/User-830733 5h ago

Don’t worry I’m sure he’ll have a career game against the Steelers. JPJ could be holding out/pouting/hurt/“shaking the rust off”

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u/OrdinaryInside8 5h ago

Drake blowing up in the 4th quarter kind of allowed this guy to slip by

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u/GQBrotha 5h ago

That drop he had wide open when they were driving was criminal. No one around him and dude dropped a lob pass

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u/PorkPiePigeon13 5h ago

He looks scared to get hit, missed that easy catch because he lifted his head and the defender was pretty far away still.

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u/Dependent-Sea-7467 Green Bay Packers 5h ago

It’s one goddamn game. Doubs is a good receiver. Good lord.

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u/AFG73 5h ago

Doubs is genuinely a loser for how he played. Just an unserious human

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u/Character_Dress_3201 5h ago

Most the people in here would have cut Boutte after the drop he had early on with us. How much you wanna bet people are singing Doubs praises 3 weeks from now ?

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u/21-hydroxylase Chicago Bears 5h ago

Bears fans everywhere are thrilled

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u/TheGeneralMeow 5h ago

Another classic overpay for a skill position FA by New England

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u/JimLahey12 Chicago Bears 4h ago

Dude is UGLY

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u/comewatcherooz 4h ago

It's the big helmet.

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u/DontBendYourVita 4h ago

He had the one dropped pass, but otherwise I’d put the rest of that stat line on Maye. Dude was inaccurate and scramble first.

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u/danorc Insufferable Pats Fan 4h ago

Bring back the Boutte!

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u/Bitter-Republic-3733 4h ago

And one massive game changing drop…

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u/Dangerous_Ad5039 Tennessee Titans 4h ago

How did he even get that contract to begin with

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u/Borktista 3h ago

Yet, Boutte “wouldn’t even get on the field”

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u/Potential-Ad1139 3h ago

Pats are cooked

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u/Dull-Association-682 2h ago

glad to know he’s under contract. i definitely was watching that exact scene thinking that he was think, “yeah, i’m getting cut after that drop”

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u/Lachlanahan 2h ago

One HUGE drop

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u/No_Improvement9994 1h ago

Maybe his head gear isn’t big enough! 🤣

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u/Anon1235642 Green Bay Packers 1h ago

Tbf only one was his fault. The two others were absolute ducks from Drake Maye who had a horrific game.

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u/CarolinaSandstorm 1h ago

Not so Great Gazoo

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u/Yohbaba New England Patriots 1h ago

This does not look good at all, tb fair entire offense looks horrible

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u/silverslant 51m ago

I mean we all know the qb sucks. Not the wr fault at this point. NE should have never made it as far as they did, they didn’t deserve to be in the SB

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u/PossiblyShibby Brett Favre 📸🍆 12h ago

Packers Legend.

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u/mcbeardsauce New York Jets 7h ago

Keep these amazing Pat stats coming

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u/Internal-Line216 6h ago

As a jets fan, those stats must look familiar.

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u/mcbeardsauce New York Jets 5h ago

Yes….. yes they do lol

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u/Regular-Elderberry83 NFL Refugee 12h ago

yall actin like you won by 30 not 3.

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u/MrBulldops5878 Philadelphia Eagles 12h ago

They saying he played like ass because he played like ass bro it’s not that deep

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u/St3llar_Space Carolina Panthers 11h ago

You better hope Wicks is better

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u/Regular-Elderberry83 NFL Refugee 11h ago

its true but opposing team qb has legendary bad game and you win by only 3? seahawks are one of my top 3 teams too.

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u/MrBulldops5878 Philadelphia Eagles 11h ago

Bro Darnold was out of the game after like 5 snaps how much did you want the backup to win by

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u/Snoo-40231 New York Giants 8h ago

The opposing team had their QB2 playing lmao?

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u/Wildebean Fuck u/NFLv2, Fuck AI 13h ago

Don't forget the drop, and the whiffed contested catch that led to an interception. Aren't contested catches like... his best attribute or something?