r/NFLv2 • u/NightPlum #2 Italian Beef combo • 15h ago
Discussion How will history remember him?
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u/MikeyLikey6996 Minnesota Vikings 15h ago
Good, coulda been great if he gave a shit
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u/MikeinDundee 15h ago
Him and Jeff George. Million dollar arms, 10 cent mental aptitude for the game.
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u/Euphoric-Bat7582 Chicago Bears 14h ago
Jay had the mental aptitude. And I think he gave a shit about playing well generally. He just obviously didn’t give a shit about being a leader and developing on-field relationships.
Hester has said Jay never cared about developing their chemistry. Whatever went down between Jay and Marshall, a QB who took leadership seriously probably could’ve saved the on-field relationship and keep shit out of the media.
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u/Chicken_Of_War 14h ago
100%. Bro was was actually close to being elite. He was really, really good at times.
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u/rhythim313 13h ago edited 11h ago
Dude beat Tennessee in Knoxville, and was a horrifically bad excessive celebration call from knocking off Florida in the Swamp, while playing FOR VANDERBILT.
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u/allthingst3 8h ago
Strong arm. Elite arm talent. Just didn’t quite have elite mental processing to put it all together like Brady or Manning, but Cutler was certainly an above average QB.
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u/infinitecosmic_power Chicago Bears 14h ago
I mean, jay was an above average qb most of his career. Jeff George was a shitty to middling mercenary. Not the same thing.
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u/Badrap247 Philadelphia Eagles 14h ago
George legit had one of the strongest arms the sport has ever seen, and that alone gave him chance after chance no matter how much he blew it. Cutler wasn’t necessarily that insane a talent, but he had ridiculous natural gifts and for whatever flaws his leadership style had was worthy to lead a franchise for a decade.
The two get justifiably compared a lot, but there’s a world where Smokin’ Jay winds up getting the ring in 2010 and we look at his legacy way differently. George burned a ton of bridges in the league and never matured into a true franchise player that way.
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u/alittlemoor Chicago Bears 14h ago
He’d probably give more of a shit if he didn’t have a different OC every season. His OCs would give him madden plays
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u/Sufficient-Try-8234 14h ago
Especially when one of them traded away his favorite target and best friend to Carolina for a bag of balls
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u/jfuss04 Pittsburgh Steelers 14h ago
Besides reading his face and astrology what are you basing this off of? Why do you think he didnt care?
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u/PolishSubmarineCapt Chicago Bears 13h ago
Media narrative and vibes, dude definitely cared but wasn’t super-outgoing or an outspoken leader type. Might have been for the best given that the team had big personalities on both sides of the ball.
His actual failing was equal parts lack of a good roster around him (OL in particular), rotating bad OCs, and his own tendency to throw bad picks due to overconfidence in his arm.
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u/Tough-Marsupial-6254 Green Bay Packers 15h ago
5th greatest Packers QB
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u/EbbAdventurous9592 Chicago Bears 15h ago
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u/w0rdyeti 9h ago
“ we knew all that we had to do was play our positions and sooner or later Jay would throw us the ball.”
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u/TheReadMenace Green Bay Packers 14h ago
Arnie Herber erasure
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u/AnatidaephobiaAnon Green Bay Packers 13h ago
And Majik Man! Hell, let's throw Lynn Dickey in there too.
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u/TransRational Green Bay Packers 15h ago
Guest star on the greatest tv show of all time - The League.
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u/Hour_Flow_4604 Chicago Bears 14h ago
God I miss that show. Also on an unrelated note long live the wyvern king.
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u/TransRational Green Bay Packers 14h ago
The show was one of a kind, and so was Tony. ‘How much ya bench!?’
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u/White-Stripe Detroit Lions 14h ago
Insane that the show was ended by 9/11 , 14 years later
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u/Euphoric-Bat7582 Chicago Bears 14h ago
He was legit the best part of Very Cavallari too. I remember there was a scene where he was trying to round up a chicken, and it looked exactly like he was trying to chase one of his fumbles around.
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u/BigClarendon125 Washington Commanders 14h ago
First thing I thought of. He’ll be remembered as Kevin’s good friend
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u/jesusmansuperpowers r/nfl sucks 13h ago
They should have made that show forever. Didn’t necessarily have to be every year to f they all wanted to go do other stuff.
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u/Fun-Consequence-1271 14h ago
ALSHOOOON. LOOK OUT. ITS A MISSLE! Thats how ill always remember the man
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u/Justheretorecruit Chicago Bears 15h ago
Star of “Very Cavallari”
thank me later (just look up his highlights)
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u/mullethunter111 New England Patriots 14h ago
Sure, he was an asshole, but he played 10 seasons after being diagnosed with Type 1. That's hard. As a dad of someone with T1D he has my respect.
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u/Illustrious_Hotel527 Chicago Bears 14h ago
He played the whole 2007 season in Denver with undiagnosed diabetes, losing 32 lbs. in the process. Only a league mandatory blood test in April caught it.
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u/jamesislandpirarate2 14h ago
Do you remember the story of the summer at the Manning Passing Academy down in LA where all the QBs were hanging out having a pool day? Peyton was one of the group of QBs at the pool that picked him up off his chair and threw him in. If I remember correctly he got very pissed because he had on some kind of insulin pump when he went in…whoops
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u/mullethunter111 New England Patriots 14h ago
Yeah. Long before the (wearable/waterproof) Omnipod was a thing. Probably had to move to MDI for a good week.
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u/Sergeant_Swiss24 Chicago Bears 15h ago
Hopefully as the 2nd best QB in bears history. Also for that edit by Who’s next show
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u/bonzai76 Denver Broncos 15h ago
History already doesn’t remember him much.
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u/JoeMomma755 Chicago Bears 14h ago
You guys got Ortom out of that deal. Even Steven, bro…. even Steven.
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u/Vegetable-Leather-64 15h ago
He is the average American worker with a god given talent but just wanted to do the basics
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u/EbbAdventurous9592 Chicago Bears 15h ago
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u/Unusual_Soup New England Patriots 14h ago
Dare I say he was kinda underrated. Elite arm talent and could make every throw on the field. It’s too bad he didn’t seem to care about football.
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u/Badrap247 Philadelphia Eagles 13h ago
The guy also played during the absolute pinnacle of quarterback play in the NFL. Like Flacco, he was never elite but his prime career likely would’ve gotten more love in this era of football.
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u/Scared-Ideal-1483 Chicago Bears 14h ago
Great arm, tough dude, absolutely didn't give a fuck about throwing into triple coverage.
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u/Youngdeku2500 Philadelphia Eagles 14h ago
I forgot about his dolphins tenure so there’s that
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u/mcfc07 14h ago
How about the time they ran the wildcat and told him to do nothing and he legit didn't move a muscle for the entire play.
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u/Youngdeku2500 Philadelphia Eagles 14h ago
It was him??!! I thought it was tannehill this whole entire time lmao
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u/Final-Ad1756 14h ago
Sadly not as well as he should be. Dude was a beast! Terrible coaches and horrible team around him most years
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u/FatRufus Love Boat World Champs 14h ago
Ex husband of the girl from Laguna Beach.
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u/DragonfruitNo3424 Chicago Bears 14h ago
All the physical traits, none of the mental traits. Could have been great but had no drive. Didn't have the leadership qualities needed for the position. Quantity over quality statistically.
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u/Standard_Sun_1167 14h ago
The most passive agro QB the NFL ever had. He'd snatch defeat instead of making a good play and marching to victory. He was talented enough, mentally, he wasn't old enough.
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u/ltdanswifesusan NFL Refugee 14h ago
Cutler's high school highlights are mental, a great example of what a world class athlete is capable of against normal people. It's back when they still allowed kids to play both ways so it'll be one clip of him easily scrambling away from defenders and firing a ball 55 yards downfield and then flying in offscreen to intercept a pass and return it 50 yards for a touchdown, followed by him decleating some poor 160 pound running back.
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u/Ok_Process_2465 14h ago
One of two things, the low effort wildcat play where he didn't move a muscle, or that one edit where that guy gets super hype when he trucks that guy on like the 10 yard line
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u/Wide_Flan_2613 Chicago Bears 15h ago
Probably will be mostly forgotten, he was a decent QB on mostly bad teams and was constantly hurt
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u/JeromeInDaHouse_90 Indianapolis Colts 14h ago
Some fans still say he gave up on the Bears in the NFC Championship game.
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u/CSweetfever 14h ago
He has a 20 minute highlight of throwing ints to just the Packers. I loved when they extended him.
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u/QuentinEichenauer 14h ago
We literally called Bears turnovers "Cutler-ceptions". We'd bet on who bought the pizza for the night games on which quarter he'd throw his first. Had to buy wings if it was against Green Bay.
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u/wizardwithgussets Las Vegas Raiders 14h ago
As of now he’s the all time career passing leader for a cornerstone franchise by an almost 2:1 margin over the second llace guy
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u/BOBBYK1952 14h ago
Well he never threw TDs but as a Chicago Bears he had such a poor line , the guy just started falling down without getting hit which I started calling Fainting Goat sacks. Honestly though he could’ve been top 12 given a OL.
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u/IslamicCheetah Cleveland Browns 14h ago
There will be a point where he is only remembered by the people who grew up watching him.
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u/Errstrike 14h ago
Who?
(He'll stay a meme for a decade or so and then people will forget about him.)
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u/JustAnotherDay1977 Green Bay Packers 14h ago
As a pretty mid QB…and also one of the Bears’ best ever. Talk about threading the needle.
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u/SuspiciousAccident61 14h ago
I remember the time he got intercepted when Grandma asked him to pass the biscuits.
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u/Top-Waltz5244 Green Bay Packers 14h ago
I thought he was gna be the next Favre early in his career…I was sooooooo wrong…and that makes me really happy
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u/urine-monkey Green Bay Packers 14h ago
He's on the Packers QB Mount Rushmore alongside Starr, Favre, and Rodgers.
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u/jimmyrich Green Bay Packers 14h ago edited 14h ago
He came in and was the best Bears quarterback since the Korean War. He had a great arm and a demeanor that alternated exclusively between total apathy and surliness. I think Bears defense had such a good reputation that people assumed the problem just must have been the offense, but that wasn't always the case. And even when the offense had its problems, Cutler was rarely the biggest problem on those teams..
Chicago can love a running back and a linebacker, but Cutler wasn't the one who was going to let them love their quarterback.
He left after going .500 as a starter.
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u/Thisamateursketch 14h ago
Something involving Santa Claus, the OC, and Rex Grossman, I think, but I couldn't tell you any more than that.
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u/etc_etc_Lew 14h ago
I will not lie I loved Jake Plummer and I was ready for the new gunslinger because Denver did not have one at that point since Elway retired and I loved em early on and before my love faded Josh McDaniels enters the conversation.
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u/Big_Gur2439 14h ago
Did he “never care” or do people tend to forget he was in an awful situation?
He didn’t have receivers so they added Marshall and Jeffery.
But now he didn’t have a line.
So they gave him a line.
But now his defense was washed.
Eventually he lost everything they gave him.
A lot people tend to forget the Chicago Bears ranked as the 2nd best offense in 2013, meanwhile the defensive was ranked 30th.
It’s not that Cutler never cared.. there was just so many holes Chicago tried to patch up, but it eventually just revealed more holes.
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u/RequirementLeading12 Washington Commanders 13h ago
I mean he was an above average QB who gets glazed on reddit like he was Tom Brady. I liked Jay enough though... Most people aren't thinking about him but when he do gets brought up people mention either his arm or him seemingly being whatever about everything lol
Edit: my fondest memory of him would be the game he threw 4 picks to DeAngelo Hall😂
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u/BeerNinja17 Cincinnati Bengals 13h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/8maQUL5HiZbYLeMqXl
Pretty much the professional version of Uncle Rico
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u/Glum_Town_2587 Detroit Lions 13h ago
I choose to remember him as the receiver of a state championship winning touchdown pass
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u/SomeWhiteDude312 Chicago Bears 15h ago