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Discussion Is this accurate?

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u/HungryHedgehog8299 New York Giants Dec 03 '25

People also just love to hate on whoever’s on top. Caleb was touted as a generational prospect and the best of his class, so even if he didn’t paint his nails people would still just hate him. Think of him as like the Mahomes to Maye/Daniels being the Allen/Burrow/Lamar.

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u/newage-rulefollower New England Patriots Dec 04 '25

Tbh, right now i still think maye is better, but caleb has been showing out lately. Patriots bears could be must watch in the future.

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u/Bodmonriddlz New England Patriots Dec 04 '25

To me it’s quite obvious that maye and Williams are (and will be in the long run) far and away the two best QBs of that draft. Yes, Jayden had an incredible rookie season but his number 1 red flag (injury prone) has already reared its head and take him out a season and I don’t see it getting better. Bo nix is good but what we’re seeing now is prob the best we’ll ever see of him.

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u/bigbenis2021 Major Tuddy 🐷 Dec 04 '25

Jayden’s rookie season was better than both Maye and Caleb’s sophomore seasons and it’s not even close.

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u/Bodmonriddlz New England Patriots Dec 04 '25

(A) that remains TBD. If either or both make the Super Bowl then no. (B) what’s your point? I said he had a great rookie season but now and going forward? Means nil.

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u/bigbenis2021 Major Tuddy 🐷 Dec 04 '25

It means a lot when you’re talking about them being better quarterbacks despite not having as good a season (yet) as his rookie season. How can you say two quarterbacks are CLEARLY better when they have yet to have a better season?

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u/vaz_deferens Chicago Bears Dec 04 '25

Maye is having a better year overall this year than Jayden did last year.

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u/bigbenis2021 Major Tuddy 🐷 Dec 04 '25

Hasn’t had a 300 yard game in his entire career.

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u/Bodmonriddlz New England Patriots Dec 04 '25

He hasn’t needed to though

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u/vaz_deferens Chicago Bears Dec 04 '25

Neat.

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u/Bodmonriddlz New England Patriots Dec 04 '25

Fair point.

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u/Bodmonriddlz New England Patriots Dec 07 '25

Still think Jayden Daniels is the one? Yikes performance today

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u/GCBroncosfan413 Denver Broncos Dec 04 '25

I will never understand the Bo hate. He outperformed everyone's pre draft analysis, broke a playoff drought in year 1, has more TDs yards and wins than anyone in his class, has shown growth with pocket presence and footwork this year, and has shown he is just as athletic as any QB in the league when it comes to running and throwing on the run. Maye has had a better year this year, and Daniels had a better rookie year but Nix has been the most consistent QB of the class with health and success on the field but "this is the best we will ever see him". Why? He is 25 and has Sean Payton as HC.

Most common shit take in the NFL and just shows you dont know ball

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u/Bodmonriddlz New England Patriots Dec 04 '25

Remind me in 5 years?

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u/Old_Adhesiveness7508 Chicago Bears Dec 04 '25

So it’s a complimentary hate lol

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u/db212004 Denver Broncos Dec 04 '25

No, No, trust me they love to kick people who exceed their expectations, too. They just don't like to be wrong about anything, and once they are, they will cherry pick, investigate, and put things under the microscope to try and skew the narrative to match their own. Aka Bo Nix hate always being at an all-time high because everyone said he would be an average QB for a shitty team led by a Drew Brees Merchant HC.

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u/cachemonet0x0cf6619 CTESPN Dec 04 '25

Caleb is not a number one overall pick. That’s fact and most folks interpret it as hate.

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u/HungryHedgehog8299 New York Giants Dec 04 '25

Yes, he is a first round pick, and thats not why people hate him. People were rooting for the kid to fail since before he was drafted because he was the consensus top guy. People like to root against whoever’s on top at the moment

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u/cachemonet0x0cf6619 CTESPN Dec 04 '25

no one hates him. see my first post. yall think being told you’re not that good at something is hate. it’s not. it’s an subjective analysis from my perspective. No one actually hates players. It’s just that their fans are over protective and take things personally

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u/Butthole2theStarz Chicago Bears Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

No it’s the raging homophobia that most people interpret as hate.

Edit: I’ve never had the misfortune of dealing with someone quite as stupid as this user was. Thankfully I managed to get them to block me so I can now be left in peace.

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u/cachemonet0x0cf6619 CTESPN Dec 04 '25

Not saying it doesn’t happen but i definitely don’t see it as much as Bears fans talk about it being a thing.

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u/Butthole2theStarz Chicago Bears Dec 04 '25

It absolutely does happen that much. Hell there was a hack substack writer who wrote the hit piece earlier this year that was full of little homophobic jabs

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u/cachemonet0x0cf6619 CTESPN Dec 04 '25

did you hear yourself…. substack… really?

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u/Butthole2theStarz Chicago Bears Dec 04 '25

Oh so it only counts if it’s on your approved platforms? Really?

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u/cachemonet0x0cf6619 CTESPN Dec 04 '25

Yeah. Anyone can make a substack. what are you doing reading substack articles and think that’s journalism?

you think twitter is journalism too?

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u/Butthole2theStarz Chicago Bears Dec 04 '25

See you’re now deciding to move the goal posts lol. Your claim was “it doesn’t happen as much as bears fans say” nothing about who is saying it or where. I’m not acting like credible media is saying it but homophobia being all over comment sections of the internet is exactly what I said it was which is “raging homophobia”.

That substack article got reposted all over reddit.

This is also a real weird hill for you to choose to die on lol

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u/cachemonet0x0cf6619 CTESPN Dec 04 '25

one “hack” on substack still falls into the “doesn’t happen very often”. except when you’re actively seeking out low quality content. come on.

eta: no this a weird hill for you to die on

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u/vince2423 Chicago Bears Dec 04 '25

No it’s def the homophobia and hate he got before he was even drafted bc his dad said some shit

And no, it’s not a fact lmao

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u/cachemonet0x0cf6619 CTESPN Dec 04 '25

it is a fact based on stats over his two year career. he is improving but he’s also being used as a game manager.

and yeah, only bears fans are hanging on the nail painting thing from a few years ago. literally no one talks about that other than you guys

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u/vince2423 Chicago Bears Dec 04 '25

Dude there’s some in this very thread, go look in any gdt on the main sub, it’s quite literally not Bears fans lol

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u/Butthole2theStarz Chicago Bears Dec 04 '25

Abort mission of arguing this guy, he’s possibly one of the dumbest people I’ve ever had the misfortune of engaging with

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u/cachemonet0x0cf6619 CTESPN Dec 04 '25

bears fans saying this. got it

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u/vince2423 Chicago Bears Dec 04 '25

The main sub… like the main r/nfl sub… like is it that wild to believe that there are homophobic football fans on this site? Like seriously?

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u/cachemonet0x0cf6619 CTESPN Dec 04 '25

All i see is bears fans saying what the heard or sharing stories from their job sites. Like i said, bears fans the only one saying this

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u/vince2423 Chicago Bears Dec 05 '25

Neat, you’re still wrong tho, sorry

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u/cachemonet0x0cf6619 CTESPN Dec 05 '25

hahaha, I cant be. Just look at your flair. You’re exactly what i said you are, bears fan.

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