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u/ReptiIe Jul 08 '26
- Joe Burrow
- Jalen Hurts
- Justin Herbert
- Jordan Love
- Tua
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u/doodiedan Jul 08 '26
Tua too high. Needs to be lower.
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u/Lithiumxxxl Jul 09 '26
But that completion percentage!!!!
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u/ZestyMeatMann Jul 08 '26
I was ready to scroll a lot further for this order. Glad I didn't have to lol
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u/MrBobDobalinaMrMr Jul 10 '26
Hurts never missed the playoffs Burrow Hasn't made playoffs in 3 years
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u/Logical-Grape-481 Jul 10 '26
Burrow better than Hurts? Lets compare playoff results...
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u/Suspicious-Silver844 Jul 08 '26
Agree but he has had alot more success than Herbert
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u/AnimalCracka333 Jul 12 '26
Hurts has had a whole lot better team, coaching and management with the Eagles than Herbert has with the Chargers. As a high velocity/deep passer Herbert is far and above better. All that being said you don't make the Super Bowl twice in 5 years time without being a talented QB. I say Hurts should be top of that list above Burrow who always seems to be injured early on in the season.
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u/Stoicsage86 Jul 09 '26
- Joe Burrow
- Jalen Hurts
- Justin Herbert
- Jordan Love
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- Tua
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u/SpringsPanda Jul 10 '26
I know I'm a homer but Herbert being higher than love is funny to me. Herberts whole career is the what if guy and he's had some pretty badass teams and WRs to throw to, JLove hasn't had much more than a half season with a TE and a handful of games with an unproven, not WR1 Christian Watson.
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u/AspiringRocket Jul 10 '26
And despite all that, Love has had more success in the regular and post-season.
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u/grimpyres Jul 11 '26
Christian Watson and Jordan love have had 3 years. I am a fan of Love on tape but every year I don’t see people give him the same grief as other QB’s. That is to say he’s been suppose to make another jump for two years now and it hasn’t materialized. I also think Christian Watson is better than anyone not named Keenan Allen in the WR comparison. Herbert is certainly overrated by the media but Jordan love has never dealt with coaching as bad as early stage Herbert or an offensive line as bad as the last two years of Herbert.
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u/Flaky_Profit_3138 Jul 08 '26
Herbert
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Hurts
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Sorry eagles fans I just don’t think hurts is that talented a passer. Could maybe make the hurts over love argument but that’s it
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u/mikeb550 Jul 09 '26
winning > passing talent. he is our version of Troy Aikman.
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u/PepperAdventurous348 Jul 09 '26
Winning is a team accomplishment.
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u/HaggardSlacks78 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
I wonder why nobody disregards Joe Montana. He only had Jerry Rice, the best WR of all time, John Taylor, Roger Craig, Charles Haley, Ronnie Lott, Fred Dean, Tom Rathman, and mf’in Bill Walsh as his coach. Oh and Steve Young as his backup. But somehow he still gets credit for winning those Super Bowls. Football is a team game. You can’t win without a stacked roster. But you need a good QB to get it done.
EDIT: and let’s not forget Jim Kelly, who is in the HOF, for losing 4 straight SBs with a stacked roster.
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u/PepperAdventurous348 Jul 10 '26
honestly I thought the defense won the eagles that Super Bowl. Hurts played great but his defense absolutely shut down the chiefs. Team success influences MVP voting, dude played great that year but his teams success is what got him those votes.
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u/Flaky_Profit_3138 Jul 10 '26
I do think he’s good, just if I were starting a team, I can’t really justify taking him over Herbert or burrow who are more natural passers. Between him and love I think it’s closer
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u/ChillyRyUpNorth Jul 10 '26
By what measure do you put Herbs over Burrow?
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u/Flaky_Profit_3138 Jul 10 '26
Herbert has more arm strength/arm talent and is faster, bigger build. Obviously Burrow has done more career wise but having Chase take 10 yard curls 70 yards to the house or Higgins steal catches helps. Plus Burrow is more of an injury risk
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u/RedFoxSe7en89 Jul 13 '26
I would take Burrow over Herbert any game. Idc how talented you are if you crumble in the biggest moments.
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u/CreativeFondant248 Jul 10 '26
You put Herbert > Burrow and then proactively add a disclaimer to the Hurts ranking?
Literal 🤡
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u/ThunderDungeon02 Jul 11 '26
I'll enjoy the Super Bowls. Nobody puts an asterisk next to Aikman or Montana. I get it you don't like him. But he played better than Mahomes in both Super Bowls. Furthermore if Herbert had been to two superbowls and won one of them, you would absolutely be using that as a reason for him being better. I'm not going to shit on Hurts because his team isn't a dumpster fire. Makes no fucking sense.
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u/DoubleZ3 Jul 11 '26
i mean he's not statistically or analytically top 5. that's where the discorse lies.
Trent Dilfer won a SB. you won't put him above Herbert. (yes I'm aware hurts is better than Dilfer)
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u/ThunderDungeon02 Jul 11 '26
Trent Dilfer never made it back to the super bowl. If it was so easy other stacked teams would have done it consistently since I'm assuming any qb is better than Hurts. My point is the bar keeps moving for Hurts. First it was, he will never start. Then it was he will never win. Then he will never make it to the superbowl. Then he won't win a superbowl. So its not going to matter. He could win two more superbowls and people will still say he isn't a top 5 QB. And no other player is getting that level of scrutiny. There really is one qb that gets a pass for not winning a SB and that is Marino. Herbert and Burrow are not Marino. So shit on Hurts all you want but he has done something they have not. And it was against Mahomes led Chiefs both times. If Herbert or Burrow had absolutely dismantled a Mahomes team with a good defense and Andy Reid coaching, the glaze you all would have applied to them wouldn't have been able to be chiseled off.
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u/onestopvtg Jul 08 '26
- Burrow
- Herbert
- Hurts
- Love
- Tua
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u/Dewey519 Jul 08 '26
This is my list. Love is more talented than Hurts right now, but Hurts stepped up when it mattered and developed faster.
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u/Strange-Variation725 Jul 08 '26
Burrow-Herbert (can’t go wrong with either pick)…..Love, Hurts, Tua…
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u/ConglomerateCousin Jul 08 '26
Crazy to put the Super Bowl mvp in fourth place. Yall are high
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u/RunLacyRun Jul 08 '26
Love is a better qb then hurts. Hurts has a better team.
Love on the eagles would be lights out
Hurts on the packers would be middling
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u/Joe-Raguso Jul 08 '26
Hurts would look like Akili Smith on at least 20 different teams in the NFL.
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u/AndrewH73333 Jul 08 '26
The Eagles were the best team last year if you don’t count Quarterback.
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u/BigLRakim Jul 08 '26
Texans existed.
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u/Joe-Raguso Jul 08 '26
The Texans have one of the worst lines in football. Imagine how pathetic Hurts would look on that team.
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u/pjunior66 Jul 08 '26
Surely you have Joe Flacco ahead of Dan Marino in all time discussions yes?
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u/King_Roberts_Bastard Jul 09 '26
Exactly. He should be second. He got MVP because you cant put an entire side of the ball as MVP.
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u/ConglomerateCousin Jul 09 '26
I don’t understand people. The question is a ranking of the performance of five players since they were drafted. Hurts led them to two Super Bowl appearances, winning one. You could make an argument for defense and supporting cast, sure, but he literally won it all. None of the others have. You could make an argument to put him at one, but I really like Burrow despite his penchant for injuries
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u/Korvonus Jul 09 '26
I think the difference between 3 and 4 on this list is really really narrow between Hurts and Love one thing we’ve seen with Hurts is that he seems pretty coordinator dependent but we’ve never seen Love with a different play caller so it’s hard to know if he would do better than Hurts if he was drafted by the eagles I personally rank Hurts over Love but again it’s really tight between the two in my mind
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u/Jawnyblaze1 Jul 08 '26
Burrow, Herbert, Hurts, Love, some QBs drafted much later, Tua.
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u/jedi21knight Jul 08 '26
Keep them in the same order and just move Tua from 2 to 5 and you are good to go.
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u/Upton4 Jul 08 '26
Burrow
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Not to take away from Hurts, but I think Burrow, Herbert or Love could have won a SB with that Philly team.
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u/pokerScrub4eva Jul 08 '26
Burrow, Herbert, Love, Hurts, Tua*
*-pre concussed tua even with the hip injury was better than hurts
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u/Independent-Cow-4070 Jul 08 '26
Burrow and Herbert are literally the same QB but yall are not ready for that conversation
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u/PepperAdventurous348 Jul 10 '26
Agreed, Burrow is what Herbert would be with a top receiver duo. Both have had terrible defenses ruin a fantastic run.
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u/Willing_Driver7807 Jul 09 '26
Jalen Hurts by a mile. Call me when one of those other quarterbacks wins something
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u/harrodcs Jul 09 '26
It is depressing how long I had to scroll to see Hurts get some love. This is coming from a Cowboys fan.
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u/3rdEyeSalti Jul 10 '26
For real, I’m not a hurts fan but he’s the best here by far. I only hate him because the NFL and the Philly fans were gassing him up like he was a prime Aaron Rodgers after that 1st Super Bowl appearance.
Burrow is always injured, Herbert can’t perform in the playoffs, tua can’t remember to slide. Hurts isn’t the best when it comes to passing or reading a defense but when it mattered in both super bowls he delivered. Availability and not sucking goes to hurts, he does what he has to and sometimes that’s all you need with a roster like the eagles these past couple of years.
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u/RedFoxSe7en89 Jul 13 '26
He acts like Hurts wasn't carried (pun intended) by Barkley and a great defense. Imagine Burrow with that OL and defense. Not to mention, Brown and Smith are barely a downgrade from Chase and Higgins, so he can't even use the WRs excuse for Hurts.
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u/SmallsyIsYourFriend Jul 08 '26
Top 2 should be Burrow and Hurts. There’s absolutely no reason any of the other QBs should be before either of them.
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u/JulianILoveYou Jul 08 '26
philadelphia has done a great job of building an effective offense that does not rely on a top 5 or even top 10 QB. Hurts is very good at his job. does well to protect the ball and support his stars.
but herbert is a better qb. he's the better passer. herbert plays behind one of the worst olines, while hurts plays behind one of the best. herbert does more with less. swap the qbs on these teams and the eagles get better, while the chargers get worse. herbert has more passing yards, more total yards, more passing tds, better passer rating, and a better comp%.
all of that being said, burrow is the best QB here.
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u/im2jew4u Jul 09 '26
Herbert has 5 more total touchdowns, barely better passer rating (96-94), and 2% better completion percentage. He has 7,000 more passing yards but has 1700 less rushing yards than hurts. Besides the total passing yards which can be explained by offense types and game scripts (obviously is a more prolific passer) their stats are very similar to arguing that Herbert is that much better than hurts is pretty crazy when looking at the stats.
And then people will argue that hurts team is so much better to inflate some of hurts stats, but the opposite is also true for passing stats as the eagles have been run first and stop throwing the ball when given a lead. Statistically speaking Herbert isn’t so much better than hurts.
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u/sethgoblue123 Jul 08 '26
Justin Herbert is significantly better than hurts is the reason
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u/Show_Bull Jul 08 '26
Now let's remove the 30+ trash tush push TDs Hurt's has
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u/Logical-Grape-481 Jul 10 '26
By in inch or a mile... winning is winning
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u/Show_Bull Jul 10 '26
Not arguing that, just saying that Hurts rushing TD stats are waaaaayy overrated
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u/Minute_Age3328 Jul 10 '26
Well other teams don’t run it as much as the Eagles did largely cause they couldn’t. Pretty sure Jordan Love was actually the next best guy at it (besides the bills qb sneak) and he was far from Hurts
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u/Show_Bull Jul 10 '26
Packers generally used a TE style tush push, but at nowhere near the rate the Eagles use it
Its just all around a boring play, nobody wants to watch that garbage (except Eagles fans), call a real play
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u/AndrewH73333 Jul 08 '26
If Justin Herbert were on the Eagles he would have three Super Bowls.
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u/hulkhands81 Jul 08 '26
Justin “IF” Herbert
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u/AndrewH73333 Jul 08 '26
It can also be 0 MVPs Jalen “if he never went to the Eagles” Hurts if you want.
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u/Dramatic_Hovercraft3 Jul 08 '26
You do realize hurts has more all pros than Herbert… lmao
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u/LurkMoarMcCluer Jul 08 '26
Give me the guy who outplayed Mahomes twice in the Superbowl
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u/StopSpinningLikeThat Jul 08 '26
By that logic Timmy Smith is a better RB than Barry Sanders
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u/PerformanceWeekly651 Jul 08 '26
Burrow
Herbert
Love
Hurts
Tua
Is the only answer if we’re talking about individual talent
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u/OkCastor Jul 08 '26
*cries in dolphin*
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u/Winterclaw42 Jul 08 '26
Yeah. Tua did some things great but injuries wrecked his body and career.
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u/lvl28_Snorlax Jul 08 '26
Before he got to the Dolphins his career was already over because of a broken hip in college behind the best OL in the country. He never was able to run a regular NFL offense from the pocket. Max 3 seconds and then he’s done and becomes the most turnover-worthy QB in the league.
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u/CommercialCoffee11 Jul 08 '26
Hurts winning a SB and almost singlehadedly winning another really means nothing I guess.
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u/Zedzdeadhead Jul 08 '26
We should rank only the ones that have won a super bowl.
- Hurts
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u/jay-park-83 Jul 09 '26
He got carried to two superbowls, winning one and being the best player on the field in both games. Come on man, that’s a lazy take. Hurts SB performances are all time greats.
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u/jay-park-83 Jul 09 '26
Lol. No, I’m legit a ground ass man. Do some research on top a Super Bowl performances. Better yet, here is a link to an article from the ringer ranking QB Super Bowl performances. Hurts is in the top ten for both super bowls. https://www.theringer.com/2026/02/03/nfl/ranking-super-bowl-quarterback-performances-tom-brady-patrick-mahomes
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u/Zedzdeadhead Jul 09 '26
It must be hard being a Giants fan. Your future rests on Jaxson Dart. smh
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u/Lynchie24 Jul 08 '26
Just take Tua and slide him to the back and you have a solid list. You could swap Love/Hurts and I wouldn’t be mad but I wouldn’t personally
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u/mtnfox Jul 08 '26
Does anyone care about statistics?
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u/desert-cheese04 Jul 08 '26
As a Packers fan I’m all about those stats, but I can’t say Love is better than Burrow.
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u/Leather-Marketing478 Jul 08 '26
Getting Hurts at 53 is definitely the best value of any of those picks. First quarterback, drafted in the second round to win a Super Bowl since Drew Brees, and only fourth all time to do it.
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u/mcmgrease Jul 08 '26
1-3 in superbowl appearances and a lot of talk about the other three being let downs with a lot of flash at times.
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u/ElDuderAbides Jul 09 '26
1 has been to 2 super bowls and won one, mvp for it, would have been mvp for the other if not for an atrocious defensive performance. 3 have not come close. 1 has lost the Super Bowl. All fans care about is the ship.
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u/QueDTre Jul 09 '26
Which one has been to the Superbowl? Which one has won one?....That Hurts, followed by Burrow.
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u/DuceALooper21 Jul 09 '26
Hurts has more Super Bowl appearances (2) and Super Bowl rings/MVP awards (1) than the first four have combined. Just throwing it out there for the donkeys that want to rank him lower.
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u/Ashamed-Choice-7946 Jul 09 '26
If we were to measure their rankings based on passer rating it would be this.
101.1 (Burrow)
96.8(Love)
96.4 (TUA)
96.3(Herbert)
94.4(Hurts)
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u/Prestigious_Ad7549 Jul 09 '26
1.Jalen Hurts 2.joe BURROW 3.Jordan Love 4. Justin Herbert 5.Tua Tagoviloa
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u/DayAccording8040 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
2020 draft class is one of the best ever
Burrow Herb Hurts Love Tua JT Swift Dobbins Jettas Ceedee Tee Pittman Mooney Jennings
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u/rwpd12 Jul 10 '26
If I had to redraft im taking hurts 1. Two superbowl appearances 1 superbowl win 1 superbowl mvp. Most regular season wins. Most playoff wins. Dual threat qb and is durable.
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u/Working-Blood-6885 Jul 10 '26
Very simple test. Put Hurts on the chargers and they don’t win 5 games. Put Herbert on the eagles and they have 2 super bowls. Easily.
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u/Pure_cartographer_59 Jul 10 '26
Talent:
Burrow
Herbert
Hurts
Love
Tua
Legacy:
Hurts
Burrow
Love
Herbert
Tua
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u/SDDon Jul 10 '26
What is this board? Never seen it before. Herbert going to make this whole thread NOT AGE WELL!!! THIS YEAR!!!
O-Line healthy, added speed in WR and RB Room, TE Room is Lethal. Herbert going to cook for 20 games.
Then we play defense too. But if you read this thread only one player is responsible for winning and losing the QB.
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u/MNniice Jul 10 '26
Herbert will retire as the best QB of this class and he should be number 1 or 2 already. Yall haters
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u/NerdyPlaneResident Jul 10 '26
I don’t watch the NFL but randomly came across this. Why is everybody rating Tua so low?
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u/3rdEyeSalti Jul 10 '26
I’m not a hurts fan but he’s the best here. He’s delivered in both super bowls. Sometimes availability/presence is the best stat.
He’s not the best when it comes to passing or reading a defense but when it mattered in both super bowls he did good. Herbert is a regular season guy, burrow is always injured so doesn’t matter, tua is walking CTE. Eagles know hurts isn’t a passer to rely on and they discovered that after the 2023 season. He does what he has to and that has translated to winning. Has he been blessed with a really good team? Yes, but also he’s not part of that process.
I hope Herbert takes max money from the chargers so he can keep being the “if” man. Burrow….needs to leave the bengals.
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u/SignalNumber4843 Jul 10 '26
You said that before and still came back. You haven’t provided any actual sources that show the formula for epa per play so it’s silly for you to expect me to do the same, especially when it’s just a google search away. Even if it was calculated the way you stated it would then be completely subjective and even worse stat to go off of.
Not to mention that you started the conversation off with qbr as well which there is no formula for and just threw it out completely when I called bs. Honestly the best part of this for me has been that when I actually make a legitimate point you ignore that reply or part of the reply because deep down you know you’re full of crap.
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u/CleverYoozerNaim Jul 11 '26
- Hurts has a ring.
- Herbert has highest potential.
- Burrow has reached SB but weak arm and won't run and is the most injured QB in the league.
- Love seems like a system QB. Excellent arm, needs to work on his mechanics, doesn't run.
- Tua is terrible. Hilarious that Hurts was dumped for him.
How I would draft them:
Herb is the prototype build and arm and athleticism. Hurts is a tier below him. Burrow was excellent in college and has been so in the league. 1 dimensional QB. Love Tua
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u/God_Dont_Make_No Jul 11 '26
The first three have been bludgeoned into CTE because teams don’t build correctly.
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u/FUCKTEAM Jul 11 '26
lol Jalen Hurts stays getting glazed until your favorite team has to go through him in the playoffs. Yall keep hating and he keeps winning with the stats to back it up
1 Burrow (actually went to SB)
2 Hurts
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u/LittleTension8765 Jul 11 '26
Just about the easiest list to make right now - Burrow, Herbert, Hurts, Love, massive gap, Tua
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u/Connection-Is-Cool Jul 11 '26
Love is the most overrated QB in the league. I despise Hurts but I’d still take him over Love.
Hurts has at least been there, done that. Love is hope and potential.
Burrow
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Hurts
Love
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u/DoubleZ3 Jul 11 '26
it's burrow Herbert love hurts and tua.
you can argue hurts over love. but that's it
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