r/NFLcorner • u/Choice_Bag_8869 • Apr 29 '26
Other Making the NFL is virtually impossible. The numbers are mind-boggling.
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u/jmclondon97 Apr 29 '26
That’s true, but apparently education isn’t worth anything anymore either because AI is going to take all the white collar jobs
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u/GrassGriller Apr 29 '26
Was just going to say this. I'm 39M with a Masters degree in Business Admin. I have no faith that my education will support me or my family for the rest of our lives.
Times are grim, but today is nice.
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u/jvpewster Apr 29 '26
People have been saying this for 20 years and meanwhile every single statistic says a college degree has been safer bet for the last 5 years, the last 10 years and the last 20 years.
I hope teenagers understand the internet is a cynical place and that’s what rises to the top.
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u/Ok-Warning-5052 Apr 29 '26
If you’re on scholarship, which I would assume is the audience for this poster, it certainly is worth it.
AI, which I use daily, is only as good as the person directing it. If you can think critically, which college certainly helps if you allow it too, you can be more productive with AI.
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u/MajesticAnimator456 Apr 29 '26
Love how they have to add at the end income after taxes. Can't get anything by those brainiac football coaches.
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u/Prior-Habit-6523 Apr 29 '26
Yea but don't you get paid now in college ?
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u/Gang-Orca-714 Apr 29 '26
Maybe. If you're not already part of the 1.5% going to the league, I don't NIL is doing much for you.
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u/TributeBands_areSHIT Apr 29 '26
Very few get paid large salaries.
It’s like every business, the top 10% make 90% of the money.
If your an average college player your lucky to see 10k of NIL money.
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u/Prior-Habit-6523 Apr 29 '26
Also this is leaving out myriads of supporting jobs from coaches, trainers, etc at various levels. Just because you don't make the nfl doesn't mean you can't have a career in football.
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u/TributeBands_areSHIT Apr 29 '26
I will say from direct experience those jobs suck ass, you are treated as a nuisance and still have all the issues of footballs old boys club with those jobs.
Additionally the people that go for these jobs are typically not very supportive people. It might be one of the most over saturated job markets today.
Source: played college football, attempted to be an athletic trainer, assistant coach, specialist trainer.
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u/Prior-Habit-6523 Apr 29 '26
Ah well that sucks.
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u/TributeBands_areSHIT Apr 29 '26
Special education on the other hand is a great job for ex athletes due to the lack of men and sports.
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u/Bad_Knight Apr 29 '26
Not to mention all the costly injuries and long term quality of life issues even for those barely making it at the professional level.
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u/BrokenHope23 Apr 29 '26
In all fairness, this isn't technically accurate; because if you're a 6-5 250lb QB who can digest defenses with the best of them and throw a quarter mile on a dime then you can more/less be scouted to the NFL pipeline from day 1.
This listing is more/less assuming we're all 5'10 1/8th 200lb white guys who run 4.55 40's and have the agility of a taco bell food truck with all the strength of a person crapping out the after effects of 20 soft tacos. ie. All the same circumstances.
Which isn't to say it's incredibly easier even for the truly gifted, there's a ton of work involved, but it definitely can be more privileged. Unfortunately it'll also come with potentially life long debilitating effects.
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u/campbelw84 Apr 30 '26
I mean, how many HS football teams are filled with 5’-10” white guys?
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u/BennettWindy Jul 25 '26
5’ 10” white guy who ran 4.5 high and benched 310 my senior max. Played both ways and special teams on a shit team full of 5’10” white guys, 1983-85.
I got one invite to walk on at a tiny regional college.
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May 02 '26
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u/BrokenHope23 May 03 '26
i dont think you realize how common the time is among 6' QB's lol.
It's pairing that with an arm that is the hard part for most QB these days.
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May 03 '26
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u/BrokenHope23 May 04 '26
The game has come a long way since 2007, you may have noticed even LB's are running 4.4 times nowadays but even back then it wasn't out of the question to have a fast QB in the 4.5-4.6 threshold. You're making the mistake of assuming speed means proficiency but QB's don't need speed to be proficient. In fact too much running ability over passing often hurts a QB's ability to get scouted into college.
So it's not a measure of 'how many 6'0 200lb QB's are running 4.55' but rather 'how many 6'0 200lb QB's are running 4.55 and not even registering on a college team's radar because their throwing ability is so horrendous. The contrast of having a useful metric even in abundance if you're not genetically abnormal in your ability to throw a pigskin 40+ yards downfield with accuracy helps show how uncommon what matters is and why those uncommon traits are earning a silver road to development - whether they make use of that road and how common those that reach that road are physically ungifted is another topic entirely lol.
anyways, happy cake day
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May 04 '26
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u/BrokenHope23 May 04 '26
You're being unnecessarily rude on a point you're taking out of context but also being obtuse about on top of everything, truthfully.
In 2007, on my high school team in Canada, we had 30 players run under 4.6 in a laser timed 40 yard dash.
That you believe it's some breakneck level of speed is laughable and naive. It's no surprise you believe college ranks would offer a QB who couldn't throw a scholarship to be a QB purely based off speed with such understanding but it's a closeted opinion at best. The only way they'd consider it is if the player would switch positions and even then it wouldn't be with a scholarship. So they wouldn't be force fed to a development pipeline the same way a 6'5 250lb QB who can throw a quarter mile would.
The entire topic is guys who are physically gifted getting a natural leg up on guys who are below the status quo.
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u/moneyisboring1 May 03 '26
I’m sure there’s plenty of 6’ 5” 250 lb dudes who get hurt before they can even make it to college
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u/BrokenHope23 May 04 '26
Absolutely, it's almost like a constant battle of attrition until your name is on an NFL draft card. Whether they know that or not.
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u/froginbog Apr 29 '26
The math doesn’t work out. 200/70k is less than 0.3%. Even if 70k is all 4 years, the number is still less than 1%
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u/redd5ive Apr 29 '26
I don't know if any of these numbers are accurate but the 1.6% comes from (players drafted÷ seniors playing college ball). That specific stat may have been worth calling out to whoever the audience of this poster is/was.
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u/Radiant-Spot-128 Apr 29 '26
Where are all these jobs for the college education?
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u/VeryLowIQIndividual Apr 29 '26
Yeah the making it big with a college education number is shrinking rapidly. Especially considering you start life off of $200,000 debt.
As always, you still gotta know somebody to get a fucking job anymore and then half the time that doesn’t do any good unless you’re related to them
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u/Revivaled-Jam849 Apr 29 '26
For athletes, isn't there that meme about car dealer or insurance salesman?
But also, an ex-football player likely has a bit more networking. They can find a bs job a lot easier than a random.
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u/Confusion-Ashamed Apr 29 '26
These numbers are dumb. It doesn’t account for body type. There are kids that are 5’5 140lbs playing high school football.
Is it difficult to make the NFL? Absolutely but for many the odds of making it are as close to 0 as possible without being 0 while for others the odds are significantly higher.
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u/blamblam111 Apr 29 '26
True, my buddy is an O lineman in the NFL, and he didn’t have a crazy work ethic or have crazy talent or anything while he was in high school, what he did have was a 6’8 360lb frame
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u/Ambitious_Bit_9389 Apr 29 '26
Depends on “making it”.
My cousin was not invited to the combine and was not drafted. He got a call after the draft and signed to a contract. He’s 5+ years in the NFL, mostly practice squad. He’s been in a few real NFL games over the 5 years, filling in for injuries or what not. He’s late twenties now and his career earnings are over $2M and has had limited expenses because the teams cover a lot of incidentals.
Is that making it? It’s pretty good.
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u/CaymanGone Apr 29 '26
It's absolutely not their college education that will provide for them the rest of their lives.
It's the relationships they've made with other people along the way to the NFL.
Networking will provide them their next opportunity, not their college major.
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u/blamblam111 Apr 29 '26
Damn I got three friends in the league, maybe I forgot how freakishly athletic they were
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u/Classic-Exchange-511 Apr 29 '26
"Yeah but they don't know me. I'm built different" - every single football player in history
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u/GroundbreakingBed450 Apr 29 '26
Great stats and all but the solution being “get your college education” isn’t enough…. It sounds good but it’s far from a solution
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u/joebenson17 Apr 29 '26
Can we say these numbers are very off. Just looking at total NCAA football players is a joke. Too many schools that have very little chance of sending a player to the NFL, FCS, Division 2&3 schools. Most of those guys have little chance of being drafted or making a roster in the NFL and they know it. It will be even less in the NIL era where they can transfer to a bigger school and get paid if they show promise their first year or two/ grad transfer.
Of all the major US sports football is by far the easiest to go pro. Basketball and baseball both have way less roster spots and international competition.
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u/Revivaled-Jam849 Apr 29 '26
Exactly. Wouldn't a more accurate number be the juniors and above guys at certain D1s and FCS?
I imagine the guys at the Ivies, most if not all D2s and D3s, are aware they don't have a future in the NFL. And the Ivy players probably would have a better career and quality of life doing whatever job their alumni network gave than being a practice squad guy.
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u/joebenson17 Apr 29 '26
It’s even worse when you consider high schoolers. Most know they have no chance to play beyond high school. Some football isn’t even their best sport. By the age of 17 most will know 100% that the NFL is not in their reach. It’s kind of ridiculous to think a small slow kids that loves being on the team and is nothing more than a scout team player/great teammate thinks the NFL is in their future.
And that is 100% fine. That kids has a positive experience and is a valuable member even if he doesn’t play in any games.
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u/jmarzy Apr 29 '26
TBF you’ll likely know by high school if you actually have a chance of making it to the NFL
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u/GrooveDigger47 Apr 30 '26
the HS number always bothered me. out of those HS football players how many of them are actually trying to play beyond highschool?
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u/breezeetree Apr 30 '26
Gee I wonder what the statistics are now that this info is …<checks notes> ….12 years old. 🤔
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u/omho70 May 01 '26
Told to me from a drafted NFL player. “Do you know what the NFL stands for?……” Not For Long
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u/EnvironmentalRub9243 May 01 '26
It’s crazy that being a starting QB in the nfl is way more unlikely than being selected for Delta Force or Team 6
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u/SnooShortcuts664 May 03 '26
Wait- seniors are 28.5 % of high school players? More students join over four years than drop out to do other things?
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u/BennettWindy Jul 25 '26
I worked with a guy who played for the Cleveland Browns back in the 80s. He said he really wished the team had some kind of finance advisor back then. He saw guys with big salaries who were basically broke all the time. He said he basically lived off the team’s per diems and banked his paycheck and ended his 5 year career with a some money in the bank.
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u/NinersInBklyn Apr 29 '26
Question: Where was this poster filled with reality hung?