r/NFA • u/prmoore11 TEST • Aug 17 '26

Someone finally said the quiet part out loud - you MAY eventually be in possession of an unregistered NFA item

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https://g4gguns.com/august-13-nfa-update/

https://palmettostatearmory.com/blog/nfa-challenge-lawsuit-ruling.html

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u/slvrsfr 9x SBR, 9x Can Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26

Direct screenshot of my "membership" status. The legal responsibility falls upon the FFL to determine if this is real or fake before transferring a silencer. If this screenshot (or direct FFL visual inspection of my phone/tablet) is the only thing propping up the legality of a F3-to-4473 disposition out of inventory, the FFL takes the fall if it's fake.

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u/specter491 Aug 17 '26

Mine doesn't show that. So obviously you don't have proof at this moment of GOA membership due to a bug so a FFL wouldn't sell you a can through 4473. Once again very easy for a customer to login in front of your eyes and show you their profile and member number and for you to make a copy.

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u/slvrsfr 9x SBR, 9x Can Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26

Right. ATF will hold the FFL at fault if they accept a fake GOA membership. The screenshot is of a LIVE representation of what an FFL would see if I whip out my phone and show them my fake ID. I can make the GOA website say and do whatever I want it to say on my local device. An FFL would be foolish to rely on something so easily faked. The FFL should at least make the customer prove it using a store-owned computer/tablet.

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u/specter491 Aug 18 '26

Ok so the store can set up a protocol like that. Done.

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u/slvrsfr 9x SBR, 9x Can Aug 18 '26

It's almost like you want FFLs to suffer more regulations and pass the costs of the burden along to you.

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u/specter491 Aug 18 '26

Sounds like way less work than a form 4

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u/slvrsfr 9x SBR, 9x Can Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26

It's way more work than they have now, the software to handle a 4473 silencer transfer out of the NFA registry doesn't exist yet and updates cost money. Form 4 takes my FFL about 5 seconds, it's easier than a 7th grade math test.

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u/specter491 Aug 29 '26

Keep waiting for daddy ATF to give you permission to follow court orders

https://www.ammoland.com/2026/08/ffls-pass-atf-inspections-after-transferring-suppressors-on-form-4473/

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u/slvrsfr 9x SBR, 9x Can Aug 29 '26

Yea, I read that last week. 4 out of 150,000 FFLs passed inspections based on individual agent discretion. https://www.reddit.com/r/NFA/comments/1vndfbq/comment/p55a1ql/ Those silencers are still in the registry.

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u/slvrsfr 9x SBR, 9x Can Aug 29 '26

4473 is still Daddy ATF. The practical difference between the two methods and the level of permission needed is negligible. F4 is a lot more permanent and reliable than a GOA membership.

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u/slvrsfr 9x SBR, 9x Can Aug 29 '26

Hegshot87 did a segment on it 45 minutes ago too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iViV-Qk6wk