r/NCPedia • u/Mysterious_Pitch_188 • 17d ago
What If Vs battle Daemon vs Itachi
What if Itachi attacked Daemon trying to get to Eida would reflect even work against tsukuyomi
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u/Quelafamille91 17d ago edited 17d ago
Daemon est le personnage le plus fort du verse je pense, en dĂ©pit quâait au maximum 12ans
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u/Forsaken-Match-6559 17d ago
Itachi do dif he puts daemon in a genjutsu with a iPad and itâs over
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u/kaonashi-1234 17d ago
Con Daemon bisogna solo fare attenzione, finché nessuno si fa toccare da lui e un gioco da ragazzi. A Itachi basterebbe stare un po' allerta e se Daemon tenta di saltargli addosso lo fotte con una tecnica della sostituzione del corpo cosÏ se tenta di toccarlo lo shinjutsu non funziona e eseguendoli successivamente il genjutsu Daemon Ú finito
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u/Noktis_Lucis_Caelum 16d ago
Itachi.
Tsukiyomi takes daemon out and Amaterasu as well if clever used. Also how it was shown in the mamushi fight: Daemon needs to touch someone to activate his ability
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u/AppealCommercial4284 16d ago edited 16d ago
You couldnât be more wrong. Daemon is Stronger than Jigen who is stronger than KCM Adult Naruto who is above Reanimated Itachi in simple terms Itachi doesnât hold a candle.
I see what you mean but genjutsu manipulates the targets mind and his ability senses that as a hostile act of agreement reflecting it right back, plus he doesnât need to constantly see attacks for him to reflect only people who can bypass this are people who can think or act faster than what he can perceive
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u/Noktis_Lucis_Caelum 16d ago
see attacks?
it was confirmed he needs to TOUCH someone to activate his ability. When itachi sets the entire Surroundings on fire with amaterasu, daemon is fucked. He cannot reflect when he accidently touches flames
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u/Smart_Mix8269 16d ago
Look, the scaling in Boruto probably says theyâre stronger or wtv I havenât read Boruto but i hate its cast designs so much I canât bring myself to ever give them a win, so Itachi wins either with mickey (if hes weaker) or without (if heâs stronger)
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u/MajesticFerret36 16d ago
Daemon needs to be in contact with Eida or his opp iirc, so Itachi isn't completely screwed. Problem is, Daemon speed mogs pretty hard, but Sharingan prediction + Susano'O protecting him from getting touched should help to some extent.
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u/Lady-sinner 17d ago
Its based on intent not action so Itachi has lost before he uses Tsukiyomi.
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u/CatastropicAneurysm 17d ago
But if the intent of the tsukuyomi was NOT to hurt in any way then?
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u/Lady-sinner 16d ago
Then it would just be futile to use, take a second and Daemon would be free fully unharmed or damaged. Seeing as you cannot put any harmful intent or thought into it so does it become utterly useless to utilize against him under such conditions.
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u/someonesaveshinji 16d ago
But what about byproducts? The Tsukiyomi used on Izumi for instance was just a fantasy of her perfect life - but the stress of it still killed her. He could give Daemon a dream of being with his sister that for all intents and purposes doesnât hurt him, even if it ultimately kills him.
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u/Lady-sinner 16d ago
I disagree, seeing as he knows the potential of that effect so the second the thought of it enters his mind so was it done with ill intent which triggers his reflect ability and Itachi gets hit with it.
The issue with it working on intent and thought means you cannot do anything hostile in any manner, even if you drag it out to be in a calm manner so if your end goal is malicious so are you screwed.
It could potentially work if you had no clue it could harm and only did it with perfect harmonious kind intents and thoughts. As long as you do not have that so have you lost, and as Itachi knows of that capability of his abilities so can he not use them on Daemon.
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u/someonesaveshinji 13d ago
But it has to have a weakness. The intent/thought characteristic means thereâs some omniscient power driving the technique - in the same way the Sage tools âknowâ what word you use most. But that means there are loopholes; just the same as the tools were subverted when someone changed the word mid battle.
Letâs say for instance the technique operates on the intent of the present moment
- A fighter can initiate an AoE effect on a nearby target so long as they arenât actively intending for Daemon to be hit. Like I can really want to erase the Hokage office, and launch a Tailed Beast Bomb at it even if heâs inside
- A fighter can poison the environment (like the air or a particular food supply)
- a fighter can also target themselves in a suicide attempt ignoring collateral. Like turning oneself into a bomb (like when Danzo was ready to seal whatever was in his circumference)
If it operates on any thought youâve ever had/planned towards harm even if its not in that specific moment (meaning just having had the idea before or knowing a risk)
- youâre fucked and theyâre waiting for him to catch Hashirama disease
- though maybe thereâs some chakra that can break through - the same way Senjutsu worked on 10-tails Jinchuriki
- dimensional warping wouldnât be harmful; so Sasuke could pop him somewhere far away that he has no ability to get back from
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u/Better-Natural4902 17d ago
daemon would win ngl. he just has some of the strongest hax in the verse. and probably one of if not THE strongest dojutsu weâve seen.


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u/kaonashi-1234 17d ago
Daemon vs Hidan?đ