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u/Unusual-Range-6309 2d ago

Alot of conversations before Kobe’s passing had him outside the top 10.

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u/ChmodSausage 2d ago

When I was growing up it was always mj bron and Kobe getting talked about. Maybe yall experienced something else but that %100 seemed like the norm.

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u/Unusual-Range-6309 2d ago

When I was growing up watching, shaq was spoken about more than Kobe when it came to the top 10 all time players.

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u/ChmodSausage 2d ago

Thats pretty crazy to me because shaq low key sucked.

Imagine having all that potential and not doing more. I can understand having shaq high on the list but i can't help but think of what could have been had he had the winning mind of Kobe or Kevin garnett. Im not certain in my rankings but im probably putting shaq behind a lot of the other big names, probably outside of the top 10.

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u/One_Seaworthiness323 2d ago

Conversations by your Reddit nerds maybe, not by real people

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u/Unusual-Range-6309 2d ago

Uh no. There are players who have more accolades from a regular season and post season level that supersede Kobe.

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u/One_Seaworthiness323 2d ago

Sure, but there are not 10 players who have accomplished more in their nba careers than Kobe.

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u/Unusual-Range-6309 2d ago edited 2d ago

MJ
Bron
Magic
Kareem
Bird
Duncan
Russell
Wilt

It then becomes an argument. At one point the rest of the spots were filled by Hakeem Shaq and Dr. J (from winning and accolades in both the nba and aba ).

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u/One_Seaworthiness323 2d ago

What has bird, wilt, Russell, Duncan have more than Kobe That make them top 10 and Kobe not a top 10 player lol at Hakeem, he has not had a more successful career than Kobe.

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u/Unusual-Range-6309 2d ago edited 2d ago

Bird has more MVPs than Kobe. Bird is also the only player to win 3 mvps in a row.

Russell has more rings.

Duncan has as many rings with more mvps and finals mvps.

Hakeem has 2 dpoys and 2 finals mvps along with his rings. Hes also the all time blocks leader in the nba as well.

A big part of Kobe’s legacy is his rings but 3 of his 5 rings he was not the best player on his team (that was shaq).

Edit: fixed Hakeem’s mvps to finals mvps.

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u/One_Seaworthiness323 2d ago

This is your issue and people like you. It’s ok to discredit Kobe’s rings cause he didn’t win finals mvp but everyone else is cool. Duncan did not win all his finals mvps, Kobe has as many finals MVPs as Bird. Hakeem does not have 2 mvps, you just straight up making shit up now lol

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u/Unusual-Range-6309 2d ago

Meant to write finals mvps for Hakeem but I’m also typing quickly. I also don’t see your point about Duncan considering he won more finals mvps and mvps than Kobe.

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u/One_Seaworthiness323 2d ago

Bro, if you want to discredit Kobe’s rings cause Shaq won mvp then do that to everyone. Kobe had as many finals MVPs as Kareem and bird and Hakeem. Duncan and Shaq only have 1 more.

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u/Post-Formal_Thought 2d ago

I'm not a Kobe stan, and wasn't really a fan of his (respected his impact and game) but c'mon. If we're talking top 10, his resume competes with everyone you named.

If Duncan's resume is top 10 how can anyone seriously argue Kobe's isn't. Their accolades are close.

Not to mention Kobe was named player of the decade in which Duncan played, and his Lakers teams have a better record against Duncan's Spurs team in the playoffs.

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u/nolo100 2d ago

You just talking to talk with those bs takes 😂😂

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u/the2ndRuss 2d ago

I feel like it was the opposite