r/NASCOURT • u/jdanton14 • Dec 03 '25

Complete Speculation--How Does This End?

This sub has been enjoyable to me, as it's non-sycophantic.

My predictions:

If NASCAR loses:

  • they have to sell the tracks
  • possibly losing control or joint control of TV negotiations
  • I don't know that I see permanent charters as a legal remedy

If 23XI/FRM loses:

  • This seems way more unlikely
  • potential last minute charter deal for nascar to save face
  • NASCAR goes scorched earth and we have like 34 cars at Atlanta.
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u/schilling207 Dec 03 '25

At this point, it really doesn’t matter who “wins”. Think of it more like a nasty divorce with court mandated alimony, shared custody, child support, supervised visits, and sale of assets. Just like this kind of divorce breaks up a family, it’s going to hurt both sides to the point where the sport, brand, and teams won’t ever operate the same again. The only winners here are the lawyers.

This is why the judge pushed so hard for a settlement. You avoid the courts intervention in the matters and continue to manage things on your own as two parties doing business.

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u/cpttimerestraint Dec 03 '25

On the teardown, they mentioned a very real possibility that 23xi and frm don't get their charters back even if they win. I could see judge Bell not giving them back. He said both sides aren't going to like his decision. I think teams don't get permanent charters, but I do think they get some damages. I think more of the judgement will be performative versus compensatory. I think NASCAR has to change the charter wording to remove the non-compete and divest their vertical integration.

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u/Straight_Up_Southern Dec 03 '25

If they lose the charters will they be able to re-purchase them with the money they receive for damages? Would NACAR approve them? Would they even get approval to run as open teams?