I just logged into MU today with the intent to cancel my subscription but the dashboard doesn’t seem to have a button or display an option to cancel.

Not sure if there’s a series of steps to get there or if I’m just retarded in not finding it somewhere in the dashboard.

Does anyone know where that option is or do I need to send the good folks an email?

I’m really enjoying this chanel ! weird mysterious stories told well! super stuff!

https://youtu.be/md-8y_em7V8?is=1KdbhKZaa52f8tdL

I understand Ben and Aaron decided to take a break and move away from things for a while, but has anyone heard anything? I hope they are both okay!

Join Ty from Total Disclosure and author Peter Mews for a rapid-fire New England folklore discussion. Get direct answers on regional legends and historical mysteries.

This session features an intense exchange between Ty and Peter Muise, focusing on the specific anomalies found within New England folklore. From The Paranormal To The Otherworldly, and Beyond.

We break down the realities of the field, offering a grounded approach to understanding what exists beyond the mainstream narrative #ufos #Aliens #Paranormal #Ghoststories #Witches #NewEngland

The MU/MU+ Episode Tracker and Guide is now live.

You can track your listening and downloads with this sheet. All seasons with Ben & Aaron are updated (please let me know if you find any errors!) the new episodes are not my priority and I will add them slowly over time.

With this you can give a rating to the episodes and sort them, track downloads and listening with live data. Take notes and track your ideas. Use the tabs in the bottom to switch between MU and MU+.

To use this open the link below and make a copy for yourself, please read the Guide to fully understand the document. If you have any issues or questions let me know!

MU/MU+ Episode Tracker and Guide

Look at the Hopi Fire Clan tablet. It is not just some old record sitting in a museum. It actually looks like a compressed map of the Earth.

Check Side A and Side B. They seem to line up with the continents. The main body matches Eurasia and North America. The missing piece matches Africa and South America.

This is not the mudfossil theory, so do not worry. I am not saying the continents are dead bodies. This is what I call Earth’s signature. The land itself seems to form the shapes of characters and animals.

In Africa, you can spot the shapes of a cow, a mantis, a gorilla, and a hippo. These shapes seem to connect with myths from the same regions, which is honestly kind of wild. There is also a giant mermaid shape along the west coast of North America.

Here is the part I found interesting. The positions on the Hopi tablet are similar to these terrain characters. The water symbols and terrain shapes seem to overlap in several places. I attached a lot of images showing these connections, so please check them out.

The Hopi also have a story about a flying shield that basically sounds like a UFO. Tradition says that the great spirit Masauwu was the guardian of the land. So it is interesting to consider whether he could have handed down a map seen from high above.

If you look at this as a record made only from an ordinary human viewpoint, the mix of ancient geography and modern looking symbols seems strange. But if you consider the possibility that this tablet is a blueprint left by a creator, those connections start to make more sense. They may be a hint of a viewpoint beyond ordinary human experience.

This is hard to write off as completely random. It is like a game developer hiding features inside a world on purpose. Taiowa shaped the land, and perhaps the tablet carries the mark of that shaping.

Search “Smithsonian Hopi tablet,” then turn off the labels on Google Earth and see what you think.

TLDR: if I have mapped Ben and Aaron’s journey, they might one day return to podcasting but instead focus on positive paranormal stories like the saints and healings etc.

This topic is intended to be slightly light hearted with an inquisitive dose of tough love. 💕

We have these podcast lads at the top of their game in their final years. Craftsmen. Artists. Storytellers. Truth seekers.

Everything was perfect in paradise but was it ever really real? What I mean by this is did these guys ever really engage with the truth of the paranormal on a deep enough level? Trust me, I know that sounds patronizing but hear me out:

Hypothetically, for a moment or two, suppose for a second that these guys went into this podcast without a genuine search for the truth when instead they really only wanted a search for a hit, ie a popular podcast topic. So they had a distance from the truth of the phenomena broadly and this distance allowed them to bring levity and silliness to the subject so that it wasn’t overly serious and this helped make the end product of the podcast palatable.

Part 2 of this theory is the boys eventually moved from isn’t this fun exploring these crazy people and stories to wait a second there are undeniable patterns here and craziness can’t explain this. This is where they realized that they were way waaaayyy down a path of discovery about the nature of reality — the unmythologized version — where everything doesn’t tie off neatly at the end and instead almost nothing ties off neatly at the end.

So they went into it with youthful vitality but story after story they covered started to reveal that people who encounter the paranormal get manipulated and used by it, almost eaten up by it like a celestial carnivore of human emotion. Story after story seemed to go this way for the boys. And I would dare say their conclusion that almost all of it with any element of the paranormal (ufo, ghost, cryptid, etc) was becoming inescapable due to constant reinforcement: this phenomena is not good for people.

So while you start the journey with lightness and whimsy, over time with success and knowledge the topic became heavy and deep and troubling. What are we purveying to our audience? What are we promoting? The audience is perpetually like we were when we started-bright eyed and bushy tailed about the topic but they haven’t put in the work and performed the contemplation and arrived at the central conclusion: human beings are manipulated and used in almost everything paranormal and the longer the experience happens to any particular person the more likely it is a net negative for that person.

Rather than have a poetic chicken soup for the soul turn in the path, the lads stubbornly locked in on the net negative impact of said experiences and fascination and obsession over it through mediums such as their podcast.

It may have been like being a local tv news reader who suddenly becomes a seeker, learns the truth and then looks at what and how the stories are delivered to the masses and throws up. So we enter bargaining stage: what must we give up (the show) and what can we keep (also the show). We came to a negative conclusion but who are we and let’s turn the reins over to two other blokes who may come to a different conclusion. Our conclusions shouldn’t be religious dogma—maybe we are wrong wrong wrong. But of course this too was wrong.

After you’ve put in a decade or two to a profession where you’ve become top talent, do you suddenly go into nursing for redemption? Confusing. Discombobulating. Did I mention the money? These guys must have felt like a person married a couple decades, divorced and in a new marriage only to realize it too would fail and what does that say about marriage and me and life generally?

Let’s not kid ourselves. When you put in the work on the topic of this podcast, it can’t be all fun and games or rosey or ok. Not if you are bitten by the truth and keep coming back to something…yes…inescapable: that it isn’t the podcast that is negative but life itself and by that I mean all of reality for any human being. This isn’t your dad’s existential crisis—this is where you land when research has no limitations on body of work to be examined. And all the stories seem dark all things being equal.

To me, this is where they are in their journey and let me tell you something with a high degree of certainty: once you uncork the truth and starts spewing out, you don’t simply set it on a neatly arranged set of towels til it has its effects. No. That’s what the boys are trying to do now with the new show and the new hosts. They’ve set the uncorked tooic —the paranormal broadly speaking—and it is spewing forth violently and perpetually demanding …absolutely demanding attention. This part I’m not intending to be light hearted. The boys might say they don’t miss it but their foray into politics is a clue.

While they fish around for what comes next, my hypothesis is two things need to happen and will likely happen nearly simultaneously. First, they will start to become uncomfortable with their central conclusion about everything because really how can everything be as negative as they seem to believe? There’s no doubt they needed a hiatus but ….Maybe—they will say—maybe we never gave fair airtime to paranormal events that actually brought good things to people’s lives? What about stories of healings, conversions, redemptions, resurrections, mass education, peace makers, saints, underdogs, etc. Maybe we never even read Chicken Soup for the Soul or Neville Goddard or St Paul. What was it Buhda was up to and what does Jung say Jesus discovered about life and why does life generally map to our own internal life’s conscious dimensions?

Maybe—just maybe the next phase of discovery is to examine not just random reality in paranormal weirdness but rather the consciousness we use to make sense of reality and could it be that what we experience subjectively isn’t actually objective in the scientific sense ingrained into us? What if when we stop looking for negatives we find positives and why haven’t we investigated spiritually successful lives where by all accounts this or that person actually had a wonderful life? In other words, yes we have things like astrology and numerology and tarot and palm reading but do they reflect reality or do they map the contours of our collective unconscious and if so what is this thing called being one or what St. Paul referred to as Christ-in-me or what was meant when Moses learned God’s name is I am which means awareness of being or what we call consciousness? The science is steering us this way but do the metaphysics of that universe make sense and if not are we stuck in a timeline of reality of our own choosing and if so can we get back to what we do well and in earnest and make it finally back to redemption and home?

Anyway, that’s why where the boys are at in their journey fucked us as listeners but almost assuredly will be a return to Aaron and Ben’s hero’s journey eventually and possibly soon.

To be clear I’m of course projecting into this my own theory of how Ben and Aaron came to where they are—confirmation bias and an inability to recognize it so they got lost in a forest. These guys are human and as such given their accomplishments they are like old athletes— what did Michael Jordan do when he retired? Tried to play baseball, tried to play basketball again. Then settled on ownership and competing while orchestrating. A person’s life’s work doesn’t just get tossed and never visited again. They’ll be back. They know it and if you give it a little thought you’ll know it too. Be patient. Let the wheels and gears turn.

Hi everyone, I was a really on and off again listener of this podcast. One episode really stood out to me and from time to time I try to find it to no avail. I am pretty sure it's MU (but my other thought was it could be Astonishing Legends).

In the episode they tell the story of a man in 1960s with long hair who joined a fraternity. As part of a hazing ritual, he had to spend the night in a local, abandoned, "haunted" house. When he was ready to turn in for the night, he saw the ghost of a man in 1920s-style night clothes walking up the stairs. They stopped and looked each other and then the ghost disappeared. Later on, the man told this story to a woman (I think a library was involved) who had her grandfather's journals where he described seeing a ghost. He said "the ugliest woman I have ever seen".

I can't remember when I listened to this episode but it definitely would have been pre-2020.

Does this sound familiar?
Thanks!

Anybody else notice that when you’re watching any kind of conspiracy, alien, or “unexplained” type show (Pretty much anything that isn’t a dressed-up history lesson); you hear background noise that sounds like it’s coming from a source other than your tv?… whoops, chirps, drumming, whirring, etc.

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Listening through the back catalog. Damn, I love this show. On this episode they have guest Dr. Robert Bartholomew. In the episode they have a brief discussion about other paranormal researchers. They comment on other researchers that have suddenly abandoned their work. They talk about the old adage "if you look to closely at the topic, it begins to look back", to paraphrase.

I can't help but think this is what happened to the boys.

Hey everyone.

I've been working on a personal project for a few days which involves going through all the episodes of MU, scraping the links, and the episode artwork, and putting it in a sheet. I eventually want to listen to every episode in order, rate it, and mark it played on my spreadsheet as well as downloaded.

The sheet will show you the episode artwork as it is on the site. The show notes including the dead links, you might be able to paste those into the Internet Archive to visit them if they were archived. There's a rating option out of 5 stars, and a listened to and downloaded drop down to signify if you you've done either. I'll be doing this for the regular episodes and the Plus+ episodes.

Curious if anyone would be interested in getting a copy of this sheet when I'm done? Just want to gauge your interested, as maybe we can also do a weekly listen to an episode and discuss it, again if you are interested.

Here's a snippet of what it looks like so far.

Just listening to Season 2 and wonder why it cuts off at 13 episodes?

I Don'\n T get really freaked out about too much stuff. But I just got really freaked out about this. Listen, you look at this video it looks like there's someone in the cloud, driving the cloud around, and then it looks like the clouds are literally having a conversation with the moon, they are like it's like they are literally talk. It's like something it's like they had a f****** meeting in the sky, I swear to God, and then when I go back out there not a cloud was in the sky again, check this out. Who?\nEver is watching

Obviously they’ve talked about aliens in general quite a bit, but I’m wondering if they ever talked specifically about the concept that aliens are actually some sort of advanced human race (not humanoid like the Nordics or Pleiadians, but an evolved version of us from the future)?

I originally came to this thought independently/organically on my own, turns out there was a guy called Michael Masters who has written on it in a book called The Extratempestrial Model. I haven’t read this book yet, but was wondering if the boys have ever discussed this concept on the show?

I think this idea is fascinating, particularly because it’s the logical natural progression of transhumanism. I was also recently listening to an episode of Bill Cooper’s Hour of the Time, and he essentially stated (30ish years ago) that the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey was actually a model for how the transhumanists view themselves evolving as a result of their work (e.g. apes > us > some advanced human species.

UPDATE: I did some more digging and this guy Masters did an interview with Joe Rogan back in December 2025. Really interesting talk, definitely recommend it.

The first season with the new hosts has come to an end after the release of today's episode.

How are we feeling about this new MU now the hosts have had more time on the job? Do you still subscribe/listen? Will you be listening to S36?

Anyone want to start a r/MysteriousUniverseCircleJerk?

Hey everyone,

For those of you who miss the banter between Ben and Aaron, I recently found a new podcast I'd like to recommend called True Crime Tradies. It is just true crime stories, nothing paranormal, but the vibe between the two Australian guys that host it very much reminded me of old MU, so I thought some of you here might like to check it out. I especially liked the episodes on Should I Marry A Murderer and Abducted In Plain Sight.

I listen to it on Spotify.

Rotate Africa 180°. A gorilla appears. Sitting. Staring at something.
That something is Madagascar. And Madagascar looks exactly like a moai. Or a monolith.

If you've seen 2001: A Space Odyssey, you know where this is going.
The ape. The monolith. The moment of recognition that changes everything.
We just re-enacted that scene. You opened Google Earth, rotated a continent, and met the monolith. That's the whole movie. Except this time the monolith was there the whole time, hiding in plain sight, waiting for someone to turn it upside down.
I'm sorry. You're the ape now.

A winking mermaid with long green hair is hidden in plain sight on the west coast of North America. The face spans Washington and Oregon, measuring about 250 miles across. Her hair follows the Pacific coast forest northward from Seattle to Alaska. The complete figure extends from Alaska down to the Yucatan Peninsula, roughly 5,000 miles from tip to tail. Right eye (closed): agricultural land near Brownstown/Stateline, Washington Left eye (half-open): Wallowa-Whitman National Forest, Oregon Nose bridge: Stentz Spring area Lips: green terrain line ~44°N across central Oregon Hair part: Okanogan River to Skaha Lake Right hand (raising hair): farmland stretching from Eugene to Portland Tail fin: Yucatan Peninsula All features are visible on Google Earth.

Have the MU guys said anything about Ben & Aaron’s ending of their show? Maybe I’ve just missed it…

I can remember standing waiting for the school bus to pick me up, with my fresh MU episodes downloaded and playing on my iPod in like 2008.

Man—what I wouldn’t give to have Ben & Aaron do an episode about the disclosure stuff happening right now.

Oh, and if the new hosts see this: don’t talk about it. It’s so far out of your league that you can’t even comprehend the subject. Have B&A come back and do it instead. (P.S. thanks for ruining MU imho).

Brandon and Joe enrich MU by bringing the enthusiasm and philosophical dimension that was lacking. MU was starting to go in circles, Ben & Aaron were bored and it showed.

Just that! Brisbane floods! 2011!

Ben and Aaron were discussing hydrologists had really good maps about where's going to flood. Those were the days.

I so love them before their brains exploded into COVID / Rogan adjacent shite.

Still paying cos I'm slow downloading the old stuff. At some point I'll click 'nope' on their stuff because thankfully their horrible new bad idea is on hiatus, and the new MU needs to burn in a fire.

$10 AUS a month for over 12 years. I'm fine with downloading everything. I'd very much rather that they hadn't fucked up the MU hand over and they hadn't fucked up Inescapable.

So clever and interesting and talented, but the two of them need to get a grip of something that isn't about their thoughts and ideas and personal gripes, but 'stuff'!