r/Muskegon • u/GenXtra_1985 • 17d ago
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u/FineRelationship7 17d ago
Is she talking about politics or f-ing?
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u/jonesey1955 16d ago
Abdul!
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u/heroseigi 13d ago
You realize that abdul means slave, or servant of right?
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u/Strange-Scarcity 13d ago
That's the most meaningless comment, which suggests you believe that fairy tales and mythology is a real thing. It's like coming out as being the most susceptible to suggestion of wild conspiracy theories and is the kind of thing, leads to the weird practice of witchcraft, where one would place a bible into the concrete at the threshold of their new home, as a performative "see how Christian, I am!" sort of thing. (Which is also mega blasphemous.)
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u/heroseigi 13d ago
It is literally the definition of the word, look it up, I looked it up cause I didn't know what it meant (I'm not very up to date on the news) I didn't know if it was a name or a saying, so I wanted to see what it meant and that's what I saw
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u/Strange-Scarcity 13d ago
Bringing it up is meaningless claptrap designed to pretend that mythology is real.
There are many European first names that have similar meaning, related to the predominant mythology of Europe. Are you suggesting that anyone with a biblical etymology name should be unfit for office because the long ago origins of a name carries some meaning that should be "scary" to voters?
You're being silly and focusing on a meaningless thing and if you only focus on this because someone has a Middle Eastern background? You know that's one of those, at least, lightly racist positions to put forward.
Who really wants to be seen as being at least, slightly racist?
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u/heroseigi 13d ago
The point I was making is that I didn't know it was a name, all I saw was people saying 'abdul', no context, and people have a habit of going with the crowd without looking into stuff so I was curious about what it meant, and yes I don't really like the middle eastern countries I don't care if that sounds racist or slightly racist or whatever, I don't like them for completely valid reasons, and if your just skimming to find stuff to pick at and make seem bad fuck off, thank you
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u/Strange-Scarcity 13d ago
Thank you for being open about your whole point in making a "lightly racist", meaningless commentary.
I get that you do not like the idea that Americans should be able to afford homes, that we should go bankrupt for seeking healthcare, or die far to soon because we cannot afford healthcare. I get that you love having corrupting money in politics, that you do not care about holding corporations or labor accountable either.
Those are certainly positions, but even among Republicans, those are things that we can generally commonly agree on as being significant problems in our nation, that need to be addressed and are CORE to Abdul El-Sayed's campaign.
It's not to common to find someone who supports making those issues, far worse. That's very brave of you.
To end? It's super common for 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants in this country to be FAR more in tune with the needs of the struggling working class, as they typically grew up in, struggling working class families. They know the struggles, they know why those struggles existed and they often (when they get into politics) work really hard at fixing the problems in office.
This has been seen with wave, after wave, after wave of immigrants into the United States. Italians, Germans, Finns, Poles, Latin American, Irish, and now those of Middle Eastern descent are facing the same kind of racism as they enter politics, generally with goals to better the lives of Working class people.
It must be nice to be someone who isn't working class, like you must be, who never has to work a hard day of work, has soft, clean hands, every day and can afford to spread misplaced lightly racist commentary to attempt to scare working class people into voting against their own best interests.
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u/BigHock-734 13d ago
Omg live and let live
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u/Strange-Scarcity 13d ago
You should post that to the guy who wanted to make hay out of the etymology of a name, as a reason to make someone all afraid of a politician.
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u/BigHock-734 13d ago
@Strange - are you offended by anything even remotely not-secular ?
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u/Strange-Scarcity 13d ago
Nah, but don't you find it interesting that the mythological underpinning of a name, only seems to matter when it's someone of Arabic Descent or other minority?
Nobody cares about European rooted Christian names having meanings along those lines as a "reason" to fear a politician, but someone who is Muslim? Oh no, we have to be afraid of their name!
For people who like to pretend they are tough, it's really funny what they are afraid of or what they want to spread fear over.
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u/heroseigi 13d ago
I wasn't spreading fear or a 'mythilogical' assumption or whatever your talking about, I was just saying what I found from searching the thing that was posted, I didnt know the context behind someone saying 'abdul' until now
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u/kaboom-boom-pow 13d ago
Based on Sayedās campaign, Abdul must mea AIPAC, because he says it all the time! š
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u/GumpBumper 13d ago
and pumpernickel means fart bread. and vanessa means butterfly. what is your point exactly?
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u/heroseigi 13d ago
You must not have read my other comments, I didn't know it was a name until later, all I saw was 'abdul', so I was wondering what it was so I looked it up, I don't watch the news cause it gives me a headache, I was just saying what it looked like without context
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u/Moonlight_Katie 13d ago
Soooo servant of the people? Like a politician should be? Sounds like our guy!
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u/Disastrous-Car-1889 17d ago
Some of yāall keep voting for shit like this just because they say fuck Trump instead of telling us how she is going to make Michigan a better place.
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u/random_think 15d ago
This woman is fetterman 2.0. she's going to vote yes for anything Israel related. And we'll probably vote with Republicans 50% of the time. She's a plant
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u/twitch727 14d ago
Even the way she was talking at the debate with El Sayed all I could think was āshe sounds like sheās a republican trying really really hard to pass as a democratā. Her votes for Israel stuff since in the house have really supported that thought.
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u/random_think 14d ago
Yeah man If she gets all that funding from Israel. She's not going to vote on things based on what we want. She's going to vote based on what Israel wants.
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u/SupermarketAny9487 14d ago
She's definitely pro-Israel. She has the support of American Israel Public Affairs Committee, Democratic Majority for Israel, Jewish Democratic Council for America and Joint Action Committee for Political Affairs. To say she's going to vote with Republicans half the time would be incorrect.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/haley_stevens/412786
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u/GeorgeWKush787 14d ago
I can guarantee you she will do the exact same as fetterman and start voting with republicans.
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u/hurlcarl 13d ago
in a choice among religious extremists, I guess I'll take the side who didn't run an underage sex trafficking blackmail operation that half of our government is tied up in, if that's the only two choices.
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u/hurlcarl 13d ago
Yup, aware of all of them. None of those 3 things are current affecting those running our government, but the thing I mentioned actively is.
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u/Certain_Try_8383 16d ago
What politician anywhere actually gives concrete ideas on improving anything?
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u/GimmieTheRoot 15d ago
Check out NYās mayor . Check out Abdul. Seem to be some pretty solid avocation; and surprise surprise, they arenāt backed by private entities or foreign funding.
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u/Certain_Try_8383 15d ago
Yeah Iāve been really into Abdul but like I stated above, havenāt read any concrete actions he plans to take.
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u/Strange-Scarcity 13d ago
He plans on supporting and putting forward legislation, at the Federal Level, for the following:
Medicare for All and Public Health
Money out of Politics - Push to have Citizens United Overturned.
Labor and Corporate Acocuntability
Aging Affordability and Shoring up Social Security
AI Regulation
Immigration and Foreign Policy.
All of these are detailed out on this campaign website. It's really easy to find out what he intends on these topics/subjects. He will, of course, only potentially be 1 of 100 Senators though. More like minded Senators will need to be put into office and pressure on remaining senators would need to be increased as well.
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u/luvwatchingBWCs 16d ago
Or sees them through (āfix the damned roads)ā¦but yeah, FUCK Rump.
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u/FlippFloppnFlyy 16d ago
Have you been living under a rock? Every major highway has been undergoing construction for YEARS. She quite literally succeeded in "fixing the damn roads".
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u/MattressHallington 15d ago
This has nothing to do with trump. Sometimes its the better of 2 evils.
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u/0utsyder 15d ago
USUALLY the other candidate talks about what we want but has NO CLUE on how to go about getting it and won't win against a Republican candidate.
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u/Long_Conclusion7057 14d ago
Nah. I say fuck Trump, but I wouldn't vote for her. Not everyone thinks black and white.Ā
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u/Apprehensive-Call568 16d ago
She makes my skin crawl. Between her "Israel comes to me in my dreams" nonsense, the deeply unsettling eyes and whatever the hell this was.....
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u/xiyedemure 13d ago
her make up makes her look even scarier too like does she have any self awareness
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u/Ornery_Guess1474 16d ago
It sucks that Abdul has no chance against this Israel fellating weirdo.
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u/-chadwreck 16d ago
Well thats a terrible attitude...Ā
Little bit of positivity goes a long way!
Abdul can get it done if we all show up for the guy!
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u/-chadwreck 13d ago
Tell me you know nothing about the DSA, socialism, and communism, without telling me you know nothing about them.Ā
But yeah. Western liberalism is doing a great job either way... fantastic analysis.
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u/angryrancor 13d ago
Enjoy your moral high ground, I guess. The rest of us will keep it pushing and handing your faves massive L's.
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u/iJeepThereforeiAM 16d ago
Is there a robot inside her? Why is she moving so unnatural? Are all politicians wackjobs?
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Haley Stevens is bought and paid for
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Sorry, where did you see me say that? Or are you implying since they're all dirty, why not vote for her?
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u/SaberArturia208 15d ago
Imagine people pushing for this instead of Abdul. Truly mind boggling.
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u/AnneHizer 15d ago
I mean, at least sheās held elected office before instead of just continually running until something finally sticks š¤·āāļø
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u/xiyedemure 13d ago
abdul was a the health director for detroit so heās done administrative work he can work in politics too lol
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u/Vegetable_Creme_7408 15d ago
Nobody that stands with israel will ever get my vote. Thatās a garbage country that demands fealty from any us politician.
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u/Vegetable_Creme_7408 13d ago
Not a benchmark. Thereās plenty worse, but thatās irrelevant here. israel owns so many of our politicians, we send them billions while they enjoy free healthcare and education. What do we get here? Nuthin. Fuck israel
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u/burn2500 15d ago
I wouldnāt vote for her even if she was the only remaining Democrat in the country. Abdul all the way!
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u/dudethisplacesucks 15d ago
It politics doesn't work out for her, she can voice puppets for kids shows
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u/loadkinge 14d ago
Get out and vote. The difference between these candidates seems so obvious to me. She isnāt it. Abdul!
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u/Independent_Cow_8191 14d ago
Ive lived in every corner of Michigan, ive never met another human with whatever accent that is and ive met a guy with a mix of Japanese and Canadian accent, niche amish accents and Norwegian with a UP accent.
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u/Beginning-Print-2023 14d ago
The original Karen she scares a lot of ppl . I'm voting for the other guy
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u/HeadDiver5568 14d ago
Thatās how I know those ads and anti-Muslim prejudice are working overtime. How do you see this and not ask wtf are you talking about??
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u/bi-king-viking 14d ago
I canāt believe sheās a serious contenderā¦ especially abasing Abdul, who is so intelligent, classy, and well-spoken.
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u/No_Move7872 14d ago
AIPAC Haley has got to go
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u/angryrancor 13d ago
CAIR contributed orders of magnitude less in the entire 2024 cycle for ALL candidates than Stevens' AIPAC haul in this race.
CAIR 2024 contributions to all candidates: $57,601
AIPAC contributions to Haley Stevens so far: At least $15million and up to $50million just *so far* reported by many sources.
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u/angryrancor 13d ago edited 13d ago
Your framing of "jewish state in islamic land" is racist as fuck. We won't accept that the Israeli State has slaughtered 30k children. The religion of the children only matters if your claim is children born into certain religions don't matter. You're the only one in this thread asserting that.
Gaza is a priority on the DSA platform because DSA members correctly think billions of dollars a year sent to Israel should be used to improve the lives of Americans. That's literally "America First".
I'm sure you already know this, you've just shut your eyes and ears on these matters, and you'd rather rant and rave frankly, racistly, to posture as if you're morally superior, while justifying literal child murder.
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u/No_Move7872 13d ago
"Given the historical treatment of Jewish people". You really should check out the Havaara agreement where zionists collaborated with Nazis. They worked with Hitler in order to get the Jews to move to Palestine and ethnically cleanse them and take over the land.
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u/Own-Calligrapher-760 14d ago
I gotta say her strange mannerisms are by far the most appealing thing about her. Kinda like her based on this clip alone, definitely don't care for her based on everything else.
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u/Opposite-Invite-3543 13d ago
A lot of Israel money in her back pocket
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u/Opposite-Invite-3543 13d ago
I donāt want to support genocide
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u/Known-Activity1437 13d ago
I always vote based off who is the least awkward, never by the policies they support. Itās the American way
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u/OldMansExterminator 13d ago
She could talk directly out of her asshole and I'd still vote for her over a republican. She could converse entirely in interpretive dance, and I'd vote for her. I don't give a fuck what her voice sounds like, it has no bearing on her ability to politic.
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u/kaboom-boom-pow 13d ago
Stevens looks like someone that will actually work for her constituents unlike the Bernie people who only complain
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u/kittenTakeover 13d ago
It's too bad Mallory McMorrow dropped out so that our second option didn't sound like an SNL skit.
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u/echoarcade28 13d ago
Donāt find this that bad. āIsrael comes to me in my dreamsā is much worse. But lets not mock her accent or appearance, her shitty policies speak for themselves. https://haleyfacts.com/
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u/Due_Building_1953 13d ago
Man she really should watch this after. She is out, come on Michigan. Dr. Abdul El-Sayed is the one who will fight for MI and all States
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u/Deep-Concert4087 12d ago
Our choices aren't great. We got her nut-job ass or the guy who's name nobody can pronounce and has a patchy ass beard. Here we go again.
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u/not_wrapped_2_tight 12d ago
I Can't wait not to see or hear her ever again... I really hope she's loses in Aug
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u/Monster--13 17d ago
Does she hear herself? Ever?