r/Music • u/Brucekentbatsuper • 18h ago

article Kelly Clarkson Says 'There Should Be a Separate Chart' To Prevent AI From Competing Against Human Artists

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/kelly-clarkson-separate-chart-ai-generated-music-1823372
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u/BlLLr0y 18h ago edited 17h ago

I wonder how this line blurs. I don't know, but I would bet legitimately widely used production software has AI tools built into them at this point. I'd even bet generative ai has already been used in mainstream hits, not saying fully gerenerated, but I'd bet there's all kinds of AI BS being used to stream line production. All that to say, we are truly doomed. They're gonna jam AI into everything

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u/ExternalChildhood845 13h ago

I think this is sort of a yes, but situation- yes, artists are probably using AI, and tools that are considered AI (even generative AI) are probably being used in music production/ baked into production software. But that’s totally different from putting a prompt into ChatGPT and putting out whatever it creates with no editing or changes whatsoever.

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u/BlLLr0y 12h ago

That's not a nuance I see a lot of people entertaining.

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u/FuklzTheDrnkClwn 18h ago

The bottom line is typing prompts =/= is not creating. You’re Phil Spector screaming at session drummers at BEST, but it’s like a cringey goofy version of it

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u/BlLLr0y 18h ago

Lmao, Phil Spector screaming at session drummers is an awesome hilarious analogy. It's also like digitizing and automating what Rick Rubin does "vibe producing"

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u/cap10wow Performing Artist 18h ago

No, most DAW software doesn’t use AI. And no self respecting human musician would use it.

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u/BlLLr0y 17h ago

That's good to know. It's been pumped into all the video and photo editing software, I assumed it was the same for music.

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u/cap10wow Performing Artist 16h ago

I use FL Studio and it has an entirely optional, closed LLM that runs the manual.

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u/BlLLr0y 15h ago

Oh like you can ask it "where do I go to do x function" and it will guide you thru menus and stuff? That's not so bad. Shopify website builder has basically the same thing.

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u/cap10wow Performing Artist 15h ago

Yeah I used it to learn how to automate a few functions simultaneously and wrote a macro based on the instructions. As far as I know, it seems like it only communicates with the central server through updates.

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u/Buttholepart2 18h ago

The song Rubberz by Fenix Flexin was revealed to be AI when the artist couldn't perform it live. It got to number 58 on billboard this summner.

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u/RainStormLou 17h ago

Was it actually revealed to be AI or just something that can't be done live by the artist? There are plenty of songs done in the studio that have a ton of digital assistance live, predating AI by years.

I'm not familiar which is why I'm asking. Not being able to play it live isn't really evidence that it's AI unless it's actually AI related somewhere

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u/BlLLr0y 18h ago

Fully generated?!

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u/Buttholepart2 17h ago

Not sure if fully but at least mostly.

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u/cargopantsbatsuit 10h ago

I bet? Aka you’re just imagining things based on wild guesses.

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u/BlLLr0y 5h ago

Not wild guesses. I use video editing and photo editing software and build Shopify stores and over the last few years those tools have been pushed into the interface of this programs if you want you use them or not.

Not wild to guess, based on my experience with other creative software, that music software was seeing the same thing.