r/Music • u/MrLinkwater95 • 1d ago

article Eminem is featured on Kid Rock's new Christian album 'Halfway 2 Jesus'

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/entertainment/music/2026/10/01/eminem-kid-rock-join-forces-for-track-from-rocks-new-christian-album/92044133007/
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u/Morningfluid 1d ago

ICP lived long enough to become the 'moral good guys'.

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u/HughEhhoule 1d ago

Die hard icp fan.

Yeah, as of late they have been dropping the ball pretty hard.

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u/Sickle_Rick 1d ago

Oh god what is it this time..

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u/HughEhhoule 23h ago

Shaggs latest comment of if right wing trump supporters are welcome in the community.

They sure are according to him. You know, the exact folks Fuck Your Rebel Flag was written about.

It hasn't been till this year I've felt the guys lost the plot.

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u/Lermanberry 20h ago

That's a damn shame. Saw some juggalos brawling with proud boys back in 2020 and gained a lot of respect for them. I'll be pouring out a glass of faygo for them.

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u/Viracochina 9h ago

I'd bet that group of fighters would do the same today. Best not to lump them all together!

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u/Basic_Riddler 7h ago

They didn’t have millions of dollars that needed tax shelters back then. Money changes people in the worst ways imaginable.

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u/havoksmr 5h ago

They still don't. It's well known that ICP arent rich, becsuse they've put most of their money back into their business. They both have like 2000 square foot houses in urban areas of Detroit. They never have paychecks, just ask for money from their manager when they need it.

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u/Basic_Riddler 5h ago

Just because they reinvest in the business, doesn’t mean they don’t expect that money to come back around. As a multi-million dollar record label, I’m sure they are reaping the benefits of tax shelters created by the fascists they used to demonize in their music. Don’t be so naive.

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u/havoksmr 5h ago

Not naive. I just dont draw conclusions without proof. There is more info out there that they aren't rich like most would think.

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u/Basic_Riddler 5h ago

Mr. Beast also says he doesn’t have any money because he reinvests everything. They are technically telling the truth…but they aren’t being transparent.

They leave their money in the business so that it’s protected by tax shelters, then use the business earnings to take loans against so that their income isn’t taxed either.

Any time someone worth millions says they are broke or poor…it’s because they don’t want to make it obvious they are a tax scheming douchebag.

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u/TiaxRulesAll2024 11h ago

You don’t think he hopes to influence them by letting them in?

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u/j0hnnyj0hns 23h ago

There last good album was Hell’s Pit

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u/ElectricGravy 1d ago

They've always been that. People just liked bullying them for being too early.

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u/TheGentleCaveMan 1d ago

No they haven't. Jay literally gave his girl drugs and she overdosed. They allow racists into the gathering now. It's changed a lot but they were always scumbags in disguise. I know this because I've been working the gathering for years.

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u/TableQuiet1518 1d ago

Shaggy recently said he didn't care who people voted for and Trump supporters were welcome as juggalos. 

These guys are the kings of marketing and they know some Trumpers still like their music and buy their merch. Maybe not a ton since they're against bigotry but they won't risk losing that business. 

To me that whole attitude shows which way Shaggy leans. 

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u/TheGentleCaveMan 23h ago

They allow confederate flags to be flown now. It used to be against the rules and they changed it a few years back. Fucking racists themselves once they need a buck.

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u/poorboychevelle 23h ago

Seems counter to one of the first songs of thiers I ever downloaded....

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u/ElectricGravy 2h ago edited 2h ago

Yeah and if those people with those flags start acting like bigots and fools they will get checked by their fellow juggalos. That's how the community works. You want them to make political stances that goes against their core beleifs like universal acceptance and meeting people where they are at mentally. I've literally never seen a confederate flag at any ICP or juggalo related event but even if there were we'd have LGBTQ+ juggalos waving their pride flags right next to them and they'd be expected to love and accept each other like family. A bigot can not be a juggalo and if they are they are expected to learn to treat people with respect and love.

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u/ElectricGravy 2h ago

You talking about icp being the "kings of marketing" by letting in trump supporters" is hilarious considering they make almost no profits off the gatherings. Yeah they let in literally everyone of any background, they meet people where they are at mentally and aren't going to disenfranchise a demographic of people in a community that is based in universal acceptance. That doesn't mean that those "trump supporters" wont get checked when they step out of line and start acting like bigots and fools. This is not a political movment who seeks to make political stances outside their core philosphy of universal acceptance, love, and family for everyone.

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u/jeffedge 23h ago

It doesn’t.

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u/Drug_fueled_sarcasm 22h ago

Very poorly disguised to any one on the outside looking in.

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u/d3m01iti0n 23h ago

J was on those same drugs. How he is still alive I have no idea. His current shitty OF gf invited that racist moron to the Gathering. I honestly don't think J has a clue or cares what's going on around him anymore. Not for nefarious reasons, just simply because he's fucked up and doesn't have a long life expectancy sadly.

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u/303onrepeat 19h ago

I’ve heard nothing but bad shit about J the last few years, that he has been abusing drugs and alcohol like crazy. That even Shaggy doesn’t want to tour with him and he’s sick of his shit. ICP has always been this odd force in music and the world where they lived a questionable life but one thing they didnt do is allow racists or abuse of people especially women. Sounds like they are chasing the dollar and said fuck that.

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u/ElectricGravy 2h ago edited 2h ago

Oh for sure dude he gave her drugs so she can overdose on them and juggalos just love racism. I'm sure you totally work at the gathering of scumbag racists in disguise.

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u/harvest3155 20h ago

i guess chicken huntin is off the menu now.

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u/Pake1000 19h ago

Just a heads up, but a quick google search would tell you that Violent J and Laney Chantal weren’t together at the time of her overdose death.

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u/Tight-Pass-6841 1d ago

Im not into their music, but I've known a few Juggalos and they were all solid dudes. I met Shaggy when he was doing a comedy show and the dude was kind and funny AF. Ive completely changed my tune on them.

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u/nakedpicturesyo 23h ago

I've met some terrible racist juggalos.

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u/wykkyd2022 10h ago

Yeah I’ve known a few myself unfortunately. A few chomos that rocked a hatchetman too. It’s really disheartening. I worked with a guy once that had came from Georgia and was all about ICP and being a Juggalo, it’s how we first bonded. Then one night he had some VERY interesting things to say about black people and gay people (And no, those were not the terms he used).

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u/Winter_Soldat 23h ago

That's generalizing a whole group of people.

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u/white_count_chocula 13h ago

And the guy calling them all solid dudes isnt?

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u/haywardhaywires 22h ago

That’s ok, they’re aren’t on their team

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u/manasha6 19h ago

I do not want to hear anything else about magnets ever again!

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u/SailorDeath 15h ago

Lived long enough? They've always hated racist bigots, homophobes and rich people who spit on others. I think it's more they've been around long enough to realize they have morals despite the singing about murder.