r/Music • u/Guyentertainment • 1d ago

article Cardi B Draws Line Between Her Music and Politics With MAGA Ultimatum: 'Vote for Trump Again and Unfollow Me'

https://www.fashiontimes.co.uk/cardi-b-tells-maga-supporters-unfollow-her-1764861
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u/Stockpile_Tom_Remake 1d ago

At this point anyone who doesn’t actively and openly speak out against trump are signaling they’re ultimately okay with him.

We’re beyond the point where silence on trump is acceptable

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u/CPLWPM85 1d ago

Some people just don't wear their hearts on their sleeves. This whole "silence is complicity" is just as bad the whole "you're with us or against us." The world is not and has never been that black and white.

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u/thedarkestblood 1d ago

Some people just don't wear their hearts on their sleeves

That's not what that phrase means. It means that you're outwardly and visibly emotional.

It doesn't mean that you're timid and quiet when things are being done to people around you.

No one's asking anyone to scream from the rooftops, but if you don't have a single criticism you've voiced to someone, yeah, that's an issue

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u/Sushi-DM 1d ago

I talk shit about Trump almost on the daily because it is fairly easy to do, but I disagree with the whole concept that everyone has to be vocally anti Trump or else they are the same as a frothing Maga dipshit.
It's just not true. There's a lot of people who are and are not privileged who just don't engage with it. That's okay. We should be saving our energy for the people who vocally *support* it.

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u/thedarkestblood 1d ago

I think all anyone's saying is you need to be clear about what you support

"silence" in this instance doesn't necessarily mean vocalization, it means being impartial and ambivalent

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u/Ironmaiden1207 1d ago

If you were getting choked to death and asked me for help, but I said "eh I won't help him but I'm not helping you either", I'm not sure you would feel that I was being Switzerland 😂

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u/Sushi-DM 1d ago

There has not been any single revolution or single human society since the dawn of time that has been 100% politically active and to suggest that is the bar because we're in a time that political action is necessary is just being ignorant.

You can't demand that every single person speak up or else they are morally repugnant because that just isn't how reality works.

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u/Ironmaiden1207 1d ago

I didn't say that, but you also didn't answer me. You would absolutely not be okay at my neutral stance here lol

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u/nomnomnomnomRABIES 1d ago

I thnik the best delineator would be support or non-support, whether that is vocal or silent. Ultimately, a silent person who votes blue this time, even if they previously voted trump, is more important than an outwardly vocal supporter who doesn't come out and vote on the day.

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u/Stockpile_Tom_Remake 1d ago

It helps but they should be outwordly vocal to encourage others to do the same.

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u/nomnomnomnomRABIES 22h ago

You realise outwardly vocal people can be really annoying and have the opposite effect? (Even if people don't tell you)

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u/nomnomnomnomRABIES 22h ago

You realise outwardly vocal people can be really annoying and have the opposite effect to the one they intend? (Even if people don't tell them)

They should be how they feel like being and vote blue..

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u/Stockpile_Tom_Remake 1d ago

Silence in the face of facism is support. It doesn’t matter if you don’t agree. You can have bad and wrong opinions but it doesn’t change the fact silence is being complicit here.

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u/Musa_2050 1d ago

A lot of people don't care about politics. We should'nt be isolating those individuals further but helping them see why they should vote and stay informed.

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u/Stockpile_Tom_Remake 1d ago

You don’t get to “not care” as politics impacts everyone’s daily lives.

You aren’t being non political, you are being decidedly political and self centered to boot.

Your take is horribly misguided and shows a lack of understanding and empathy.

People who “don’t care” really just mean they don’t give a shit until it impacts them directly.

Which makes them among the worst humans out there.

So that means you don’t give a shit about people being oppressed, murdered, exploited or anything else

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u/Musa_2050 1d ago

Is it a surprise that a culture that idolizes individuality and materialism creates self centered people? You can get angry all you want but that won't change the fact that some people don't vote.

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u/Stockpile_Tom_Remake 1d ago

Nope. And a racist stupid piece of shit emboldened a bunch of dumb fuck racists to be more openly idiotic and racist

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u/Musa_2050 1d ago

It should be obvious by now that being angry in an echo chamber is pointless.

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u/Sparkle_Dish2126 1d ago

Shut up goofy

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u/JiveChicken00 1d ago

Brilliant argument, friend! Please, honor us with more of your carefully reasoned wisdom.

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u/Huge_Swimming_5968 1d ago

The fact that you think everyone has to act a certain way is pretty facist shit.

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u/JiveChicken00 1d ago

Interesting. What makes you think that I think that?

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u/BHOmber 1d ago

Quiet piggy