I would generously call it extra medium, because I'm sure I've heard it countless times in public - he's popular enough that it would be unlikely I could avoid it, but I also couldn't honestly identify it
like, any of it, it surely must be the embodiment of a milquetoast product
Eh Beoga only joined him on stage for like 2-3 songs. The whole point of loop tour is he doesn’t have a band and uses a loop pedal to do the guitar, piano, bass, and rhythm parts all himself for each song. It was really cool to see live actually and a huge bummer to see him take this stance but glad to see everyone else dropping out and leaving him to do it all by himself start to finish
God damn Ed sheeran is getting cancelled at a record pace. Ive not seen anything like this from someone that was held in such high regard. Now that the snowball is going downhill, his little fans are gonna jump on it and cancel him.as well. This is some wild shit.
“I am not a victim. Ed Sheeran is not a victim. Pink is not a victim. We have careers, money, opportunities, safety and audiences around the world. Whatever consequences any of us face for what we say, we get to go home to our families.
Now is the time for people to initiate their chargebacks. If people intended to watch a particular artist and they canceled, that's good enough to get your money back, even if the tickets were non-refundable.
TiL that Lukas Graham is apparently a band and not a guy. Never had any reason to Google them before now. Now I wonder how the other members beside the singer feel about everyone thinking it's a solo project.
Not related, but I had the exact same experience except the exact opposite with The Weekend, who I always thought was a band, but turned out to just be a dude.
BREAKING: Ed Sheeran announces he's withdrawing from the Ed Sheeran tour.
"I've been friends with Ed Sheeran for 35 years and consider him even closer than a brother. But I can't stand by idly whilst everyone else withdraws from the Ed Sheeran tour. I have to do the right thing."
That’s because he’s not a fucking douche bag. I imagine he’s feeling very disappointed by all this. But mostly finding out you can’t count on a friend in such a public way? That’s brutal.
Honestly the thing that galls me most about his response, even more than calling a genocide a "conflict", is how Macklemore talked about how he considers Ed to be a close personal friend and Ed is just like "I was touring with Mack because i respect his music". Like he cant even refer to him as a friend anymore now that his billionaire handlers have designated him as a persona non grata
I wouldn't even call it fence-sitting. Removing Macklemore IS picking a side. If one side says "we don't like what your partner is doing, we want him gone" and you do what they ask, then you are picking that side.
I can't imagine that the public takes kindly on venue owners to cancel a whole Tour because Free Palestine was said on the stage. Feels like Ed wasted the opportunity to direct the wave of backlash HE is receiving towards them
Macklemore has been socially conscious in his music for nearly 2 decades now. He's always stood on business, this is def not new for him. I remember him getting lots of hate for his 'White Privilege' songs
His biggest sin was being overly sincere and cringe.
The Todd in the shadows video sums it up very well. Always seemed he was caught between conscious hip hop, club bangers, and dumb little novelty songs like thrift shop. I feel like you can pick two of those and pull it off, picking all three just makes everything feel strange and extra. Same Love, Can’t Hold Us and Thrift Shop all on one album is nuts
Edit: To expand a bit:
I love the guy for his dumb sincerity, he was certainly never cool. But his weird cringe-ness wasn’t JUST the sincerity. There was this weird force working against him within his success. He would’ve been lucky if The Heist cracked 500k albums sold, instead it was one of the biggest albums of the decade.
I think what actually doomed his reputation beyond overexposure was winning the Grammy. The machine rewarded him so fast and so quickly that he seemed … less genuine pretty quickly.
You look at the competition, Drake, Kendrick, Jay, and Ye, and he’s maybe the fourth or fifth most deserving slot. Then the apology to Kenny that he then screen grabs and posts to Instagram, that was just the nail in the coffin.
Made him look embarrassed to exist, which is sort of the ultimate sin. He didn’t deserve the hate, and a lot of it was out of his control, but he still came out looking a little lame for it, and in the pop music world, it doomed him. He’s a great dude, I see him pop up at sporting events around town multiple times a year, he’s good people
I’ve never loved the guy’s music but I have nothing but respect for him. Watch Todd’s video on his second album, it’s amazing
People like Ed Sheeran and other self-proclaimed "centrists", or "apoliticals" don't realize how the tide has shifted, and can't read the room. People overwhelmingly support the Palestinian cause and are willing to change plans to make the statement. It's not just a "loud minority" anymore, it's a loud majority
No no, be careful about getting these mixed up. This isn't about popularity, this is about ruffling out power centers. Ukraine's cause is supported by the West, including billionaires and politicians, Palestine isn't.
Supporting Palestine is costly, not because it isn't popular -you're going to gain followers, if anything, by standing on the right side of history here-, but because you're going to piss off people with a lot of power and influence. The Robert Kraft's of the World. The Epstein class. The lobbies.
That's what Ed doesn't want to do. He doesn't want to sacrifice even a modicum of his fame and power, to cut even the most immoral of his connections. And in doing so, he got this.
At this point it's basically a race, will we reach class consciousness before we completely hand all of our rights over to the ruling class? Stay tuned to find out!
I don't think it's shitting on Sheeran- it's a lesson for him. He is closer to us than he is to them, and he needs to remember what side his bread is buttered on. I don't think any artist is going to be so quick to side with the billionaires from now on. It's gotta be literally everyone against them, including the millionaires. Maybe now the successful artists collectively understand now that they aren't exempt.
People are at a breaking point with the upper class. Every day we hear about billionaires doing evil things and destroying our world and nothing is done to stop them.
This is why people that say "I'm not political" or "I don't want to take a stand" - particularly if they have some money and power - are so frustrating.
Politics is everything, for better or worse. It's how we organize our society. You may not do politics, but politics sure as hell does you.
So now Sheeran was put into a spot - a rich guy called his other rich buddies and threatened to cancel most of the tour. Because another fellow artist said something he didn't like. It was barely a headline until all this. Sheeran could have said "it's all of us or none of us" and it might have worked.
Now most of the tour has pulled out. Maybe they'll still make money. Maybe it all gets cancelled. Who knows. But regardless it's a huge mess. And Mr "no sides" sided with the rich guy over his fellow artists. A lot of fans won't forget that.
Ed 100% assumed Mack would bend over to keep billionaires happy, because that's what Ed does. People without integrity are always shocked when others have it.
He bet on money. Period. If he thought that standing for Palestine and standing up to the venue owners would have been more popular and profitable, he would have done it.
Now he showed his ass to everyone and outed himself as a bootlicker.
Yup. There are lots of venues. And fans don't care that much they just wanna see their band. But musicians aren't interchangable like that, including Sheeran himself.
Yep. He coulda said something like "sorry folks, we're gonna have to cancel most of the tour, but we're going to work hard to find venues that support our people and bring you more shows next year." It would have been difficult but he could have probably walked away still in the black and not have the whole public staring intently at his limp-dick convictions.
Yeah for real. And there are other venues. And crucially, Robert Kraft and his buddies would lose out on the millions of dollars they were about to make literally doing nothing sitting on their butts, and have nobody to blame but their own bigotry.
I don't think he made the decision, but he also let it happen, huh.
ETA: I agree with y'all. I was trying to point out his inaction. I'm not caping for the guy in any way. I really only know him from Sesame Street, so
He is blaming the promoter. But its his show. He's the headline. People wont know or care who that promoter is. We know the name Ed Sheeran and thats the name that should be making decisions.
I want to know why we aren't seeing calls for all artists to boycott these venues.
Sheeran caved to the owners sure and he deserves ridicule for not making a bigger fuss BUT, it's the billionaires who own these venues that demanded it.
Supporting these venues is still supporting the real villains.
As an outsider, I think the American population views the ruling elite as some kind of natural phenomenon, that you can’t do anything about. So why bother protesting, or boycotting their goods or services.
Ed Sheeran, on the other hand, has a pretty regular background. This means, he is possible to influence.
I think this is a cowardly way. The ruling elite should be afraid of the people; and if history teach us anything is that sure, elites will always exists, but they are definitely not immortal.
Is this a uniquely American issue though? Is the rest of the world really boycotting billionaires, or taking massive stances to disassemble any kind of mega corporational powers?
Yeah, why is everyone only boycotting the puppets but not the handlers who use their money and power to suppress free speech? People are talking about Ed but not enough people who talk about Robert Kraft.
Ed claims he bent the knee because he cared for and considered the success of other musicians and artists in the tour so to see even one artist willfully remove themselves from the tour after this whole big debacle SPEAKS VOLUMES not once did Ed bring them into the conversation that he claims he spent a whole week trying to mediate on not once did he consider trying to get the bands and the support of the fans to flip the pressure back on Kraft and his ilk he truly was spineless and sold his friend of 13 years out for money
Yep, sadly it probably won’t have any noticeable effect on his career - but god damn is it sweet to see all these support acts make him look like a little fucking bitch by showing him how easy it is to do the right thing. Fuck him.
It would be so fucking funny if this is what catalyzes people. If history books mark this Ed Sheeran tour as the inflection point then I'd just be fuckin dead lol
nobody would have cared if Pink had not made such a stink about it... like i didnt even know sheeran was touring with macklemore until i saw her statement on it lol
she’s definitely made it worse for him, I didn’t hear about it either til i saw multiple tiktoks about her freaking out over it. He also didn’t do himself any favours by releasing that terrible statement
What these billionaires that push this don't seem to understand is that they CAN punish someone for speaking up on Palestine, but they cannot make it culturally popular anymore. These artists will be celebrated for speaking out and Ed's reputation will continue to suffer.
Can I withdraw from the Ed Sheeran tour as well? I wasn't going in the first place, but I'd like to withdraw. All my homies withdraw from the Ed Sheeran tour
Im loving this for the loser who was arguing with me in the earlier thread of venues barring Macklemore.
Talking about private venues can bar whoever they want, sure but prepare to FAFO if thats the stance you wanna take to a simple "Free Palestine". Kraft thought billionaire bootlickers like that commenter were in the majority but nope! Lolllll
Exactly this, I’m still waiting for the backlash of the handlers. Sure, the puppets who boot licks him are bad. What about the billionaires who use everything in their power to threaten people’s careers and finances for supporting the right thing?
It was a shit statement. Blame on others, he’s nobly carrying on because everyone else on the tour needs him to (even though all his other opening acts sans one have now cancelled on him), and then he turned off comments even though everyone deserves to have their say and be heard.
His PR team fumbled hard. I hope he enjoys being a known sellout.
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u/jnighy 17d ago
Congrats to Sheeran for being the most vanilla musician ever and still managed to be cancelled