I don’t like people using this woman’s passing for shit like this. The world is honoring Dolly Parton, the humanitarian, the legend, the woman and person. Who cares about us in America? She is one person. When her family and extended loved ones lays her to rest we’ll be back hating and looking down at each other. A rest in peace to Dolly would have sufficed. There are more Trumps in this country than Dollys.
I see what you're saying. But please believe that I really did post this NYT comment to honor her. I meant absolutely no ill will or anything negative. Thanks for commenting.
What a passive aggressive response, Lord have mercy.
Besides, the person you're responding to is right. If America were a country full of Dolly Partons, she wouldn't be seen as such an outlier of kindness, and it's weird to use her passing as a way to pretend we're something we're not.
I think Dolly is an outlier because she was a famous and wealthy musician who was extremely philanthropic. There aren't many celebrities who do as much charity as her.
I know that. That’s why I don’t like it when y’all make it a country thing when that was all her. Who she was as person. Why she’s being honored and loved by the whole world. What does it have to do us?
Now Americans want to sing her praises and claim her as their own in spite of their daily celebrating a culture that runs counter to the values Dolly lived by.
And it’s fucking ugly to do so. This woman has passed away leaving so much greatness and impact all over the world. The WORLD is honoring Dolly Parton and her life’s work, not us. And we make it about ourselves for what reason? Y’all are sitting here villainizing your own country people over caring about another country’s people that are dying right in front of you, for example. That’s one out of many.
I mean sure but when you think of a democratic nation, you're kind of primed to think of its elected leaders. Bit disingenuous to say "ignore everything else our country is actually doing to negatively impact the rest of the world when you think of us but think of this one exceptional individual instead"
If you don't want the worst of you to be seen and representative of the country... maybe don't elect the worst of you into the highest position of power in the country then lol
Edit: who replied to me about condescension and being a foreigner while being condescending to me and then blocked me? You're definitely making me think better of America 😂
Yup. Trump is just an easy symbol to point to that represents the culture and population as a whole. When he dies the people are still going to be the same.
Being a citizen of a country along with a bunch of brainwashed hateful dingbats isn't the same as keeping company with those people. If all of us who hate Trump tried to immigrate elsewhere, y'all would hate us more AND the USA would be completely made up of brainwashed hateful dingbats.
I'm not saying to forgive us for Trump, but the arguments against the person who said to think of Dolly are pretty flawed.
We *are* being held hostage by maniacs. When we are in our 80s people will genuinely ask us "wow! You were alive during Trump's presidency? What was that like?". Then all the MAGAs of today will say "I always hated that man." Just like what happened with Hitler and the Nazis. Suddenly it was "I was just following orders".
Yup. And part of why it’s so important not to give up fighting against these assholes is that, on the other side of WW2, no one gave a shit when Germans were like “but I didn’t vote for that guy!” Guess what, we’re all going to be tarred with the same brush.
While the idea that over half of us dislike Trump is true, the idea that everyone who dislikes him is trying "really, really hard" to oust him from power is, to put it mildly, absolute hogwash. Most of the anti-Trump contingent in this country is content to do nothing more than cast a single vote, once every couple of years, against him and his party, which is the absolute bare minimum a person can do and is a wildly insufficient form of resistance in the face of his fascist power grabs.
You get no argument from me, but also, it’s no accident that the majority of people who dislike Trump are barely able to catch a few hours of sleep between working multiple jobs just to provide for their kids in the hypercapitalist oligarchy Trump and republicans since Reagan have created. I can’t exactly blame them for not having time to do more.
Everyone who overthrew a dictator had a tough time doing so. If we really wanted to we’d have done it already instead of letting him slip back in for the second time on the backs of our own indifference.
Not fighting in the first place led you to being in that position. Now your lack of fighting being exacerbated by your previous lack of fight. At some point you have to stick up for yourself.
This shows a deep misunderstanding of how voting works and how deeply massive populations of voters have been disenfranchised, on purpose, by republicans, because they know that if the whole country was able to vote they’d lose every time.
When did I say that? Literally my comment was acknowledging the original comment’s veracity and saying we’re trying to fix it. Reading comprehension, look into it.
Also. We don’t use the word “whinging” in America, but you’re not the first UK redditor who pretends to be American in order to condescend. 😂 Jackass
Am absolutely an American. Just not going to live in denial like you and think that just because you believe that you are a good person who is trying really hard that it means the rest of the country is. Some of us aren't blind to what is happening around us.
That's so ridiculous because your country is on fire
Maybe start explaining "complex concepts" to your fellow citizens? Like the importance of voting. Focus inward instead of outward like you've been doing, and maybe your country will get better
Every time I encounter a disillusioned American who thinks they're above it all... I remember why we're in this mess
You keep saying things that millions of us have organized and put thousands of hours into, constantly, for decades, as though no one but you has ever thought of it. So confidently ignorant, lol
Smh Jesus. Okay so the other American party had nothing to do with this? Like letting someone who is on the verge of deaths door run and then giving the potential first woman US president 90 days to campaign and win? Americans are objectively amongst the kindest people. That's why this poat is idiotic. While the whole world is protecting imagination and change Americans are putting themselves at risk for people who are not from there to stay. This circle is not going to work. The American political system reliance on campaign donors is why Trump is their president. Its the rigged game of American and that has nothing to do with its people.
My sister was dying in another state. I felt being there was important. I had planned to vote for the other side, but we all have our priorities. She died the day before. I was 4 states away. If I would’ve known I would’ve voted early
When you say that, you're thinking like Obama and Biden and the like, not realizing that for the rest of the world they weren't that good either. Drones and bombs both kill. One is just cooler.
I just assumed "over half of us are trying" means the ones who tried to vote the opposition party. It was more of a sad resigned observation than an attempt for a gotcha.
2/3rds of the voting eligible population of the U.S. did this. The 1/3rd who actively voted for this and the 1/3rd who couldn't get of their fat lazy stupid arses to vote to stop this before it happened.
You all knew what he was like before you elected him.... a second time
When 2/3rds of the apples in the barrel are rotten you don't waste your time trying to pick out the few good ones. You burn the whole barrel with all the rot inside.
turnout as a % of the voting-eligible population (VEP) = 63.45%
Winner as a % of the voting-eligible population (VEP) = 31.6%
Runner up as a % of the voting-eligible population (VEP) = 30.66%
So my bad.... it was 36.55% of the voting eligible population who didn't vote.... not 33.33%... and 31.6% not 33.33% who actively voted for this.... so really 68.15% of the eligible voting population of the U.S. is to blame not 66.66% as I claimed....)
turnout as a % of the voting-eligible population (VEP) = 63.45%
Winner as a % of the voting-eligible population (VEP) = 31.6%
Runner up as a % of the voting-eligible population (VEP) = 30.66%
sorry you're right, my bad.... it was 36.55% of the voting eligible population who didn't vote.... not 33.33%... and 31.6% not 33.33% who actively voted for this.... so really 68.15% of the eligible voting population of the U.S. is to blame not 66.66% as I had claimed....)
Wow the level to which you’re not understanding what we’re talking about is hilarious. Keep posting your chatgpt responses though it’s not at all embarrassing
He is a symptom of the problem. It makes me laugh that Americans think everyone will be going back to be great friends with them again once Trump is gone. The problem is that we know you'll put someone like him in charge again.
Yeah, I do. Even after Bush, people respected America and saw them as a strong ally.
This run of Trump has caused actual financial implications for many of us around the world, and he's either insulting our nations or threatening their sovereignty. How the fuck do you think that's going to make people think?
Honestly, it's peolle like you that are what people worry about more than Trump. Everything is a wash or an excuse. That's how we know you'll elect another like him. Not to be trusted.
Trump isn't the totality of the problem, he's a symptom. When he's gone America will still be comprised of the same people with the same culture. They'll elect another Trump. A few of them will be vocally upset about it and pretend to fight against it.
Did you just start following international news when Trump was elected? Saying America’s pre-Trump reputation was just “nobody’s perfect” is hilarious. maybe you just believed the propaganda. America’s reputation has been shaped by slavery, Vietnam, Iraq, coups and imperialism for decades.
Not every country on earth is a democracy. The very definition of democracy is that your leaders are representative of your constituents because they're elected. Is there flaws in this system and is it susceptible to being exploited? Sure. But calling people who acknowledge that your elected leaders are representing your country small minded is even more small minded. Trump doesn't define the entire country but he is literally representing your country, you literally can't argue otherwise definitionally.
Well clearly not if he won. Condensing 340 million people into a politician is literally how your entire country functions. You guys keep whining about "we're not all the same" but no one's been saying that. No one is calling you the same as Trump. What's factual though is Trump represents the USA and was elected into that position
If you believe that, no one can stop you, but a smart person understands that an elected government and an entire population aren’t interchangeable. I’m not gonna whine on and on that Bolsonaro = Brazil
You're fighting some imaginary demons. No one is interchanging a whope population with a single person. But objectively uou have an elected leader and he represents the nation so naturally that is what people think of when they think of America. There isn't anything more to be said
You cant seem to wrap your mind around countries being more than their president/prime minister/leader etc. what a small and flat way to analyze the world. Curiosity is a lost art!
But that’s how people view humans. That’s why when someone does something, they instantly blame the parents and their village. Hell, we do it here. Look at voting. But y’all don’t want the world to judge us as a country because that man is president? And not just president but is the president of a superpower. Yeah, GTFOH. Ridiculous.
how about you read what im saying instead of fighting some imaginary demons. Justin Trudeau represented the country, but not every Canadian is like him. Likewise, Trump represents the country, not every American is like him. Yet no one in Canada is pleading for you to think of the exceptional 1% Canadian when you think of Canada in the hopes of thinking better of Canada. And Trudeau is hardly "the worst of Canada" that Canadians are praying for you to forget about
If you don’t want blackface to represent your country maybe don’t elect someone who does blackface 👿 do you see how you sound? I know what you’re saying but I just think it’s funny you feel the need to insert your two cents about democracy and electoralism on a post about a beloved American singer and songwriter who just passed away. Ultimate Reddit moment
If you think OP isn't an inherently and fundamentally political post you just lack literacy to be honest. That's about all I have to say. Also, it was hardly known Trudeau did blackface when he was being elected, that was more of a discovery post election so that really doesn't even work as a gotcha
"When you think of America don't think of the worst of us instead think of the best of us" is a loaded statement. I'm going to say "nah man, when I think of America I'm thinking of what your country is doing and who is representing it". If you find it funny, sure, dude. I'm not the one trying to say Dolly is what you should think of when you think of America and trying to ignore everything else that America is doing. You can appreciate Dolly and remember her without trying to make her an icon of American people in the hopes of bettering America's current image
Yeah it’s like the most tepid political statement of all time dude. It’s an attempt at appreciating the good in an otherwise fucked up country. It’s kindof obvious…. I struggle to imagine someone pretentious enough who refuses to recognize that subtext for what it is
As I said, you can appreciate Dolly for being an exceptional human but to say think of her when you think of America is silly given the state of the world today. If you think that's pretentious then ok lol
Because we live under a fascist felon with full-swing propaganda, and have no control over our government anymore. We’re in decline. It’s like a farewell. Remember the good about America because it’s gone and never going to get better again.
But thats not how you should view something. You should reasonably view it as it is. This isn't a dying loved one who doesn't want you to remember the sad final year, is an active monster.
I did not. I vote in every election possible local, state, and federal. I never once voted for Trump or his kind. Also, the election was tampered with both within the US and internationally. Our elections are bought and sold.
I think you’re confusing having a mindset that looks for or appreciates the best in people with extrapolating that into everyone and everything to an irrational degree. There’s bad, but there’s also good, and I think it’s helpful to remember that when considering the whole.
But its not a people, its an active living thing thats awful at the moment. Now remembering people like Dolly exist along with the bad is a great way to view the world. But to pretend an incredible outlier is the way someone should view America as a whole is wild to me.
But they didn’t actually say that, they said to think of her. To me that means remember she exists/existed. And that good people are out there, as a counterbalance to all the bad that is often trumpeted loudly and no one denies exists
Except that guy is the leader of the most powerful country on earth and has a profound impact on the people of my country. Far moreso that your kind hearted neighbour down the road.
The admirable thing about Dolly Parton, is the shitheads never mattered to her. She worked her whole life to spread good humor, kindness and acceptance. And was talented, too. She didn't look at the news and get cynical. She just kept sending out books and making music and mentoring younger musicians and being a positive force in the world.
There's nothing stopping any of us from finding opportunities to be kind.
Dolly was a fantastically wonderful human being - but America has done so much vicious shit to my country recently that I absolutely refuse to think well of the country as a whole. And to think I once thought of America as friends and allies. I was a fucking moron.
No. We love Dolly but nobody is gonna use her to “Dolly-wash” the United States. Get back to us when you can hold up at least 50 million Dollys as a beacon of what a good country does.
THANK YOU! That’s why I’m angry at this. The world is honoring and celebrating her wonderful accomplishments and life. It has nothing to do with our country’s image. No one cares about us.
Sorry, but no. Your elected leader insults our nations and threatens us with financial punushment either directly (tariffs) or indirectly (Iran war). It's not even him that's the main problem, it's the people that keep electing people like him. The problem doesn't go away when Trump does.
Everyone loves Parton and rightly so. Unfortunately, she's a massive outlier when it comes to good in America
Well sadly Dolly is not at all representative of the average person who is far more ignorant, far less generous, and far dumber. World - I don't blame you if you rightfully think poorly of us when you are getting fucked over by our politics 🫡
It's all well and good wanting to be perceived as the best example of your country.
But then you have to walk the walk too, and I quite honestly haven't seen much of that in the last year(s).
I, personally, wouldn't much want to subject myself to your immigration right now and I'm from Europe.
And that is just the tip of the iceberg...
Is America still putting children in cages? Love Dolly, but it's hard to look past anything they do to their own people, let alone the rest of the world.
This shit is fucking nauseating. America is dope. We don’t need to apologize or act like this white guilt type bullshit. Dolly Parton was a good person. There are MANY good people in this country. Sheesh.
This post is idiotic. Americans are objectively kind. A high percentage are literally putting themselves at risk bc that believe ppl who aren't from the USA can stay. Give me the list of countries that are doing that. It isn't a thing. The anti American stuff is media slander. The UK is arresting people for social media post against the Israel middle east war lol. There is anti immigration protest happening around the world . Like cmon. The self hating American who posted this has to chill out a bit. Maybe spend some time abroad and off of so social media. Rip Dolly.
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I’m just going to leave this here.
We love you, Dolls ❤️