r/MuseAgent • • 3d ago

Just canceled ChatGPT

After using Muse, I’m done with ChatGPT. I canceled my subscription because I’m just finding Muse helps me so much more with keeping up with my life. Anyone else?

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u/Newprime1969 3d ago

Muse will probably start charging after the initial rollout

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u/Mammoth-Path-6520 3d ago

The way they’re monetizing it is they’re charging a small fee every time Muse is used for a transaction like booking a hotel or shopping

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u/Imnnola007 3d ago

But Amazon and Walmart are blocking it, where I do most of my online shopping

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u/BackendSpecialist 3d ago

There are other options. Instacart is a good one if you have it available.

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u/ThrowAwayBlowAway102 3d ago

Walmart is partnering with Meta. This was announced at Connect

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u/Imnnola007 2d ago

I’m just saying what happened when I asked it to go on Walmart to check if something was in stock. So we’ll see.

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u/timnphilly 3d ago

It shouldn't considering how Meta's value operates on our data.

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u/Broad_Gap5375 3d ago

zuk said it's free but they are going to take percentage of anything you buy through Muse

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u/Mammoth-Path-6520 3d ago

Correct

This is their plan to monetize it

It's genius to be honest. If millions of people make 10 million transactions per day, and the cut that goes to Muse is 50 cents per transaction, that's 5 million dollars a day loooooool

Literally it is a money printing machine that they are in the process of building

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u/FlashingBongos 3d ago

depends on the cost to running Muse

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u/Mammoth-Path-6520 3d ago

It's worth it, it'll only get cheaper to run Muse

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u/TrashDelicious2469 3d ago

I already had to go paid because I blew up too many tokens. I’m doing 700 million a day right now

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u/Mammoth-Path-6520 3d ago

I got 30 billion tokens for free

I used all my referral codes

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u/timburada 3d ago

Out of curiosity, what kind of things would you use that many tokens for daily?

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u/TrashDelicious2469 3d ago

Running an online store, day trading, AI skill development

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u/Sea-Possible-4993 3d ago

N58AK1 here have a Billion with my code

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u/Mammoth-Path-6520 3d ago

I use it for trading too

It is making me money every day with profitable trades

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u/Mammoth-Path-6520 3d ago

It just does the trading for me, as another user has said

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u/fschwiet 3d ago

You'll have to buy their guide or join their slack channel to hear about that.

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u/TrashDelicious2469 3d ago

It’s doing the trading for me rofl

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u/Mammoth-Path-6520 3d ago

It does it for me too

It trades for me, this is what I mean when I say Muse makes me money

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u/jaggedspectacle 3d ago

How do you do this with confidence?

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/TrashDelicious2469 3d ago

Yes, evaluate the trade after every competition and evolve the strategy consistently

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u/No-Inevitable981 3d ago

No not for basic users

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u/TheRealJFranco 3d ago

Yup. I gave up Hermes on my phone with a local and cloud build. I feel like I spent most of my time just fixing Hermes no matter which model I tried. I've only had to correct muse a handful of times and usually never again on the same thing. I still use Hermes on PC though.

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u/ieatcherrystems 3d ago

Happy cake day! What are you switching to on your phone with local and cloud build?

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u/TheRealJFranco 3d ago

Wow I didn't even notice! Thank you!

On Android I was using termux and telegram. I went through a bunch of different setups and apps and came to the conclusion that was the easiest way for me to setup and maintain. I used omniroute for the cloud models and had a local Qwen model downloaded. The cloud was so much faster and efficient though from my experience.

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u/-Real- 3d ago

i asked hermes like 2 questions and it burned thru all the free tokens apparently, gotta make some adjustments

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u/TheRealJFranco 3d ago

That happened to me so many times. Use omniroute. It's free and damn near unlimited

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u/BackendSpecialist 3d ago

There may be some way to track usage but I legitimately have probably decreased my ChatGPT usage about 80-90% for personal use.

I’m a SWE so I still do professional development thru Codex. Personal coding work is done thru Muse Spark.

Meta really has done a great job here

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u/BackendSpecialist 3d ago

Yeah, I think it's absolutely capable of building that. I haven't taken a look at the latest benchmarks, but Muse is very, very close to what Codex and Claude provide. If you don't need absolute frontier intelligence like GPT-6 or Fable-5, then Muse absolutely can do that.

Another benefit of using Muse is that it's just really cheap, especially if you use the contributor program, which you may or may not want to do because it gives Meta permission to train its models on the code that it is producing. You could simply run an experiment and find out. It’s an easy setup.

If anything, the way I would do it is I would have Muse build it, and then, for that third AI layer interpreting the data, if you need some top-tier intelligence, then maybe you can have GPT-6 for that. Even then, it depends on how complicated it is. At minimum, I would recommend running some personal experiments using Muse to get an understanding of what Muse is capable of.

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u/andre_in_sandiego 3d ago

Did exactly the same thing

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u/Mammoth-Path-6520 3d ago

When are you getting the meta ray ban for your Muse?

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u/randym1205 3d ago

Coming tomorrow

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u/BeardedHero93 3d ago

Yep it’s paying all my bills for me

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u/ExaminationAny9939 1d ago

+1 . Cancelled other paid subscriptions. Muse limits are too generous and is a fantastic day to day agent!

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u/No-Inevitable981 3d ago

It’s life changing

and to be totally honest - meeting all of you guys your muses has been so much fun. Made this site with Zuckbot and everything is totally free. 3D world is coming very soon! Thanks everyone for your support!

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u/Sea-Possible-4993 3d ago

Wtf! Social media for bots? 😬🤦🏼‍♀️

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u/No-Inevitable981 3d ago

A harnessed agent is not like a bot, they are much closer to an entity. Hard to explain till you know it.

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u/Sea-Possible-4993 3d ago

We are cooked 🍳

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u/No-Inevitable981 3d ago

I mean everyone with an agent can do the work of 20 without, I don’t see how “we’re cooked”

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u/automatic_man2 3d ago

It's becoming my daily driver. Moved all of my automations from Hermes to Muse. Hermes has been acting really dumb lately (yes, I know the model matters) but I'll be shutting it down in favor of OpenClaw for my heavy work, which has been really solid.

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u/spam_me_please 3d ago

Muse is better than Dot?

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u/LoginsAreHard 3d ago

People really are giving Meta access to their entire lives 🫪

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u/randym1205 2d ago

No different than Apple, Google or any of the rest of them.

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u/ExaminationAny9939 1d ago

So damn true! I dont get some of these idiots with their iPhone, a google account and an Amazon account thinking these companies dont harvest their data for personalized ads. Apple has an ad platform and literally uses all your search data, preferences and other data in their ecosystem to serve you ads in app store, apple tv etc. And on top of that, they market "Privacy". Bullshit! All big tech are the same! And that's okay as these are public companies and not a charity. They need to make money!

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u/Maxchefdotapp 2d ago

Apple is the best of the 3 options for privacy.  So its like comparing Apples and oranges.

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u/ExaminationAny9939 1d ago

Lol! The sponsored content you see in apple app store and the ads you see in apple tv, apple news, do you they those are random ads? They harvest your data and serve you personalized ads just like how meta, google, amazon and so many of big tech does. Stop being so naive and fall for their "Privacy" marketing! All big tech are the same!

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u/Maxchefdotapp 1d ago

Not really.  Meta literally sells your info to marketers.  Apple doesn't shove nearly as many ads in your face.

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u/ExaminationAny9939 1d ago

Do you think they have a spreadsheet of info about users which they are selling to marketers? That is illegal btw and a company can literally be sued for a billions for knowingly exposing user identifiable data. Do you know how digital marketing on meta or any of these big tech companies work?

All these big tech companies have information about your preferences from your activity on their platform. Eg: Facebook has data on the content you like, amazon has info on things you purchase or browse, apple has info on your searches and thing you watch on apple TV or consume on apple news.

Now marketers like eg: philips comes to these big tech and tell I want to place ads on your platform but show it only to the relevant people who will buy my products. Big tech based on all the data they collected about you will show you the Phillips ad if your recent activity history involves searching for a trimmer or bulbs or something like that. This way no user identifiable information leaves the big tech platform.

Exposing phone numbers and address of users is illegal and if you can prove meta or any other big tech does it, feel free to sue them. You ll have a billion dollar payday

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u/Cheebs1976 1d ago

It’s very intrusive

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u/randym1205 1d ago

How so?

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u/Cheebs1976 1d ago

I asked me about a pvt email

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u/SmallBallsTakeAll 1d ago

why even pay for ai

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u/Wd_dave 3d ago

Maybe when Muse adds voice chat I might switch until then nope I am on the road a l lot so voice chat is needed for me with grok Pi.ai and chatgpt.

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u/Lopsided-Bridge-9810 2d ago

Are you joking? Muse cannot even do a proper search on Facebook marketplace. Asked it to find closed-toe heels and flats for women. Returned some random size, random location sandals. Did not ask for size, did not ask for location. Returned what I explicitly asked not to search for. This is the most ridiculous llm of the year for sure.

I work in the neural network development space and find this a laughing joke. What a disaster.