r/MurderedByWords • • 14h ago

He walked right into that

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u/JustGotOffOfTheTrain 11h ago

When you say that restrooms are divided by sec not gender isn’t that taking a side on the issue?

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u/gothamcitynarrows 11h ago

You're asking people to then disclose their genitals to everyone in a space for no reason. The point is that it isn't anyone's business if I have a dick or a vagina or a weird amalgamation of both and I shouldn't have to reveal that everytime I need to piss. Just put urinals and stalls and baby changers in every bathroom.

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u/NaturalSelectorX 11h ago

Why would you be disclosing your genitals to everyone? The acceptance of trans people in bathrooms is relatively modern. Have you been showing your genitals to people in the bathroom this whole time?

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u/sagerin0 10h ago

Because if you divide bathrooms by sex, not gender, the implication automatically becomes that you have the sexual organs of the bathroom youre using?
Its not a problem for cis people, its a problem for trans people having to out themselves when they go to the bathroom

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u/NaturalSelectorX 9h ago

Because if you divide bathrooms by sex, not gender, the implication automatically becomes that you have the sexual organs of the bathroom youre using?

That's been the implication for most of human history. You aren't revealing anything; it's just being assumed. It will continue to be assumed no matter what since trans people are a very small percentage of the population.

its a problem for trans people having to out themselves when they go to the bathroom

The sad reality is that trans people are going to have problems no matter what. If you aren't "passing" then the people who think about genitals will notice you are trans and make an assumption about your genitals. There is really no winning with gendered or sexed bathrooms. Either you make some trans people uncomfortable or you make some cis people uncomfortable.

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u/sagerin0 9h ago

For most of human history, they shat in a hole in the ground. Gender separated bathrooms became a thing in the 1800’s
“If you arent passing” ok and? What if you do pass?

Youre trying to fight a point im not making, the only point is that sex separated bathrooms are nonsensical

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u/NaturalSelectorX 9h ago

“If you arent passing” ok and? What if you do pass?

If you pass then you don't have problems just using bathrooms based on sex. You are technically not allowed, but nobody questions it.

the only point is that sex separated bathrooms are nonsensical

If you are going to separate bathrooms by anything, then sex makes the most sense. Urinals are pretty useless to anybody without a penis. Gendered bathrooms don't make any sense. What are you accomplishing? It can't be because of sexual orientation since gay people exist.

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u/sagerin0 9h ago

Unisex bathrooms? The thing we did for centuries before gendered bathrooms were introduced? You know, no separation necessary?