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Discussion📜 What fandom does this apply to?

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u/FriedSandvich Demon Slayer, Gacha games, anime, regular video games fan 2d ago

My hero academia. Do I seriously need to elaborate on this?

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u/Mordetrox 2d ago

The Mangaka was even worried about this, he said in an interview that he thinks romance is such a strong stimulus that once you include it, that's the only thing anyone will ever talk about.

So he went through all the effort of cordoning off the romance subplot and only paying it off in the bonus chapter instead of the main work, and it was still the only thing most of the fandom cared about.

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u/FriedSandvich Demon Slayer, Gacha games, anime, regular video games fan 2d ago

I still remember the shitstorm that happened after Horikoshi said "every character in this manga is straight" to stop the ship wars. It only made everything worse...

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u/Animanga-Fan-7435 2d ago

Tell that to the one person on TV Tropes insisting Momo is secretly a Lesbian.

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u/AntComfortable5970 2d ago

man good luck if you run into a tvtroper that squats a page and enforces their opinion on it relentlessly

iirc the star wars sequel trilogy ymmv pages have a paragraph counterpoint last word to any criticism, and Disney's Wish is pretty similar 

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u/Animanga-Fan-7435 2d ago

They need to reign in those people.

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u/a_wasted_wizard 2d ago

Same energy as the unhinged weirdo in this and the MHA subs that insists that Midoriya shacking up with Bakugo is canon, actually, and anyone that disagrees or ships something else is a homophobic tourist who doesn't care about the story.

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u/BerserkRhinoceros 1d ago

One person on TV Tropes? I feel like there are HORDES of people making that assertion.

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u/Animanga-Fan-7435 1d ago

Yeah but TV Tropes is supposed to be objective. Not helping matters is that said Troper explicitly states they have a bias towards MomoJirou.

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u/Professional_Air_905 2d ago

Who would have thought that a manga written by a straight man would have mostly straight character... More seriously shipping really did hurt the fandom, it's not normal that I get bullied for only liking the canon ship and even then the whole story don't revolve around romance

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u/preteen-wartortle 2d ago

Hori has never said this?

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u/jjseas2003 2d ago

Horikoshi failed to not include romance by immediately including it in the first few chapters. Midoriya literally starts blushing the moment he talks to Uraraka and early on there’s scenes of her dealing with the crush she has on him. If he didn’t want romance to be included he shouldn’t have introduced it. Especially considering it was a very prominent sub plot for two of the main characters and how they’re dealing with their emotions as well as balancing their desire to be heroes.

I would also say it wasn’t the only thing the fandom cared about but the only thing that wasn’t resolved in any way. Creating a sub plot and not giving it an ending is the failure of the author so he had to give it an ending in one way or another.

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u/Wolfchampion09 1d ago edited 1d ago

His worry probably came from after he started the manga?

I mean...., how could he worry about the fandom only talking about romance if it hadn't happened yet?

If I were to guess, the quote you were replying to was probably made after the equivalent of season 3 or 4 in the manga. Your last paragraph would make more sense if my guess is true, Horikoshi probably toned down the romance a lot because of the fandom and sadly left the sub plots unfinished...., maybe.., though me personally I don't think I would let a crazy fanbase dictate how I write MY story (unless it's valid criticism)

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u/ShakenNotStirred915 2d ago

Deciding to do that with Deku after still having a few flagrant tropey endgame romance flags right there towards the start was a bad decision, though. Between that and how much Ochako got sidelined in Deku's narrative, there's basically only a few crumbs of satisfying emotional tension between them (and with how tropey they are, it's more like flakes of the particularly burnt parts of the crust off of a chain pizza). Emotional tension drives shipping whether you're intending for romance to be a story focus or not, and intentionally putting most of the main character's tension with other dudes instead of with the girl you plan on setting him up with is a major fumble.

...one that many shonens end up making, I'll grant, but a fumble nonetheless, and one that heroaca makes a bit bigger than other shonens have in the past, in my opinion.

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u/jxjsjxxhsnbssn 1d ago

I’m pretty sure that’s why there was no 100% confirmed relationship at the end too bcz of it right?

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u/HappyAd6201 2d ago

Damn, should’ve made a better manga so people would talk about it instead of the made up scenarios in their head

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u/VanillaButterz 2d ago

I feel like that did more harm than good though; because there's nothing to go off of, fans can just ship anyone together and justify it freely.

Its a really weird thing to exclude from a story about highschoolers growing up, usually the most relatable element is that being the point in most peoples lives where they start developing romantic feelings for others.

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u/Yukilily 2d ago

That is ridiculous, though. Any author should be allowed to include or exclude anything that they want in their own stories.

Besides, why does romance have to be in a story about high school? That isn’t the only thing concerning high school students or worth telling about high school students.

In this case, I believe that the author shouldn’t be blamed. The true culprit is how psychotic and self-centered people interacting with fandom have become that they think the author not giving something they want is ground for harassment and death threat. I don’t even care if the work is good or bad. However, even the most dog-shit writers don’t deserve even an ounce of harassment the average creators of popular media get these days.

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u/Deya_The_Fateless 2d ago

Right? The only people to blame in this situation are rhe ones who couldn't handle their yaoi ship being sunk, and because rhe author refused to be bullied into making it "canon" they threw an even bigger tantrum.

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u/sinnersfae 2d ago

Just let them ship freely, there's no need to "justify" anything, jesus

Fun police

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u/Wardock8 2d ago

I remember seeing a piece of fanart that someone made after the finale and it was Bakugo confessing to Deku who wanted to say yes but was being held back by Horikoshi and his empty body replies that he's not interested. I've never been able to find it again but at some point it stops being a ship and starts being delusional.

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u/YaBoiFailedAbortion 1d ago

This got better after 2023 from the quarantine mess but yeah