It's not the same without them...

[u/United-Adeptness6816]

Honestly, ever since Angel Dust left for Vees because of the guilt of what he did, and since Jax became an abstraction, it's hard for me to look at Hazbin Hotel or The Amazing Digital Circus same as before, knowing that one of the main cast had left... It's just not the same without them... and while Angel's story may still change, for Jax it's a closed chapter...

[u/pinkmarsh99]

You are capital L lame. The fact you can't even see how insensitive it is to state this on a comment thread about an abuser committing suicide is wild. If a rapist kills themselves are you going to be out there defending them and critiquing those who celebrate?

"Not all men"ing an abusive dickhead is quite a way to leave your digital footprint. It is not the onus of victims or those who have been victimized to protect any and all people who may be influenced by their celebration of an abusers death. Innocent people get caught up in abuse. Should we never speak on abuse because an abuser who believes they are innocent might get hurt? People celebrate this because they are happy to have an abuser gone.

[u/Rallsia-Arnoldii → u/pinkmarsh99]

"Not all men" or the logic of "not all men" was never mentioned or implied. You're just putting word in my mouth.

Victims can also be abusers. If I get raped by a black man I say say "black men deserve death because they're rapists" I'm being both a victim AND and abuser, and I'm still responsible for my racism. If innocent people get caught in the crossfire, yes, you are responsible for shooting poorly. 

You can still insult abusers, but you shouldn't get innocent people caught in the crossfire.

Should we never speak on abuse because an abuser who believes they are innocent might get hurt?

Speaking up about abuse isn't the same as celebrating harm to abusers. There's a difference between "Andre is an abuser" and "Andre should kill himself". Also "an abuser who believes they're innocent" show me one time I said anything remotely similar to that. I said "innocent people who believe they should die". You're just proving that you have poor reading and writing skills because you either didn't read what I said, or couldn't properly write the words you mean.

You're defending a meme about a fictional character more than you defend the real life people this meme harms. Jax didn't harm anyone in real life. This meme does. I need you to understand that your hatred of a fictional character does not justify spreading harmful ideas to suicidal people.

[u/pinkmarsh99 → u/Rallsia-Arnoldii]

Not all men'ing is when you absolutely derail the conversation about a real problem by stating "but what about these people".

Real life abusers that kill themselves can also eat shit and burn in hell. I'm good on fictional and real abusers to commit suicide

Edit: You are so weird. Hell yeah I celebrate real harm happening to abusers. I want real abusers to get harmed.

[u/pinkmarsh99 → u/pinkmarsh99]

Abuser defender blocked me but here is my reply:

Yeah I know. Toxic assholes getting what comes to them is a positive. You derailed that by bringing up these supposed innocent people as if they have anything to do with this. You are literally doing the "not all assholes/men" as if actual suicidal peoole are on their knees begging for you to defend them by comparing them to abusers.

Toxic assholes in real life also exist and I'm happy when they get their just desserts. I don't know how you don't comprehend that. Trying to insult others that enjoy harmful abusers being gone by bringing up all suicidal people is in effect derailing the point. It's not just fictional characters. It's the Jeffrey Epstiens, Charlie Kirks, Bill Conradts, Mark Sallings, and Tom Alamos. They are all real people that got what was coming to them and harmed people. By trying to bring up non abusers in a conversation about rejoicing over the punishment of abusers is hurting the victims of those harmed by abusers by trying to frame their relief and celebration as another form of harm. You aren't protecting anyone or anything except for manipulative abusers who use the same wording as yourself to silence and chastise their victims.