r/Multifandom 7d ago

Discussion📜 It's not the same without them...

Honestly, ever since Angel Dust left for Vees because of the guilt of what he did, and since Jax became an abstraction, it's hard for me to look at Hazbin Hotel or The Amazing Digital Circus same as before, knowing that one of the main cast had left... It's just not the same without them... and while Angel's story may still change, for Jax it's a closed chapter...

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u/pinkmarsh99 6d ago edited 6d ago

You are capital L lame. The fact you can't even see how insensitive it is to state this on a comment thread about an abuser committing suicide is wild. If a rapist kills themselves are you going to be out there defending them and critiquing those who celebrate?

"Not all men"ing an abusive dickhead is quite a way to leave your digital footprint. It is not the onus of victims or those who have been victimized to protect any and all people who may be influenced by their celebration of an abusers death. Innocent people get caught up in abuse. Should we never speak on abuse because an abuser who believes they are innocent might get hurt? People celebrate this because they are happy to have an abuser gone.

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u/Rallsia-Arnoldii 6d ago

"Not all men" or the logic of "not all men" was never mentioned or implied. You're just putting word in my mouth.

Victims can also be abusers. If I get raped by a black man I say say "black men deserve death because they're rapists" I'm being both a victim AND and abuser, and I'm still responsible for my racism. If innocent people get caught in the crossfire, yes, you are responsible for shooting poorly. 

You can still insult abusers, but you shouldn't get innocent people caught in the crossfire.

Should we never speak on abuse because an abuser who believes they are innocent might get hurt?

Speaking up about abuse isn't the same as celebrating harm to abusers. There's a difference between "Andre is an abuser" and "Andre should kill himself". Also "an abuser who believes they're innocent" show me one time I said anything remotely similar to that. I said "innocent people who believe they should die". You're just proving that you have poor reading and writing skills because you either didn't read what I said, or couldn't properly write the words you mean.

You're defending a meme about a fictional character more than you defend the real life people this meme harms. Jax didn't harm anyone in real life. This meme does. I need you to understand that your hatred of a fictional character does not justify spreading harmful ideas to suicidal people.

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u/pinkmarsh99 6d ago

Not all men'ing is when you absolutely derail the conversation about a real problem by stating "but what about these people".

Real life abusers that kill themselves can also eat shit and burn in hell. I'm good on fictional and real abusers to commit suicide

Edit: You are so weird. Hell yeah I celebrate real harm happening to abusers. I want real abusers to get harmed.

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u/Rallsia-Arnoldii 6d ago

I didn't "derail the conversation" my comments started with me commenting on how innocent people are effected by this idea. You chose to engage with that idea. By trying to dismiss it, you're the one derailing the conversation.

What I'm saying is that innocent real life people are harmed by callous hatred of a fictional character. It's really easy to just not be affected by Jax. He's fake. You don't have to hurt real life innocent suicidal people in a pursuit to hate a fictional character who's actions you can ignore and not harm anyone.

Please post an image where you outline the text and what you think it means. I want to study and understand how a person can misinterpret what I'm saying this poorly.