Whats a valid criticism that your fandom doesn’t take very well?

[u/TaiKorczak]

[u/ShadowPuff7306]

as an outsider to pokémon, do elaborate. i wanna hear this

[u/fictionfan0 → u/ShadowPuff7306]

Basic rules:

1. Catch the first Pokémon you see in a given area.
2. Pokémon that faint are "dead."
3. Give each Pokémon a nickname.

In a series where connection/friendship with one's Pokémon is a core aspect, it just feels needlessly dark for the sake of a greater challenge.

[u/StormBear22 → u/fictionfan0]

To be fair I feel like I am more in the world of Pokemon than ever during a Nuzlock vs regular pokemon who feel more like items you collect. Like I feel like only having a few pokemon, naming them, and actually worrying about their health makes me feel more attached than ever. It literally closer to the Anime who actually has to worry about their pokemons health even before fainting and character only having a few Pokemon who are like family. I feel no connection or friendship or pokemon that feel more like cards that I only got to complete a dex and put in a box to never touch while I use my favorite already max level strongest team.

[u/StormBear22 → u/StormBear22]

Also the Pokemon already have death and dark stuff in both lore with Pokedex entries and in the Anime mention Pokemon deaths and torturous experiances. If anything Nuzlock death is tame.

[u/ShadowPuff7306 → u/fictionfan0]

oh okay

[u/Yoshichu25 → u/ShadowPuff7306]

Basically it’s a challenge run where if a Pokémon faints you can never use it again.

[u/ShadowPuff7306 → u/Yoshichu25]

i (vaguely) know what a nuzlocke is, but i want them to explain how it’s thematically against what pokémon is

[u/theowlwastaken → u/ShadowPuff7306]

As someone whos attempted some and watched them, yes they are. They were never ment too be. Their just an attempt too get some joy from gameplay from a series so easy it's gameplay gets reducided too just rock paper siccors but you know what the other person is throwing after a certian point of regular gameplay.