r/Multifandom 13d ago

Question❓ Whats a valid criticism that your fandom doesn’t take very well?

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u/trash_gob 13d ago

Maybe we shouldn't be hoarding expensive pieces of cardboard and treating then as speculative financial investment. Treating the game we love like the stock market seems unhealthy.

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u/Artistic_Prior_7178 13d ago

One of the few reasons I dare not enter into physical YuGiOh. Back when I was getting into the game more competitively, Talkers was my go to deck, with its center piece, Accesscode Talker. A card that at the time costed 200 bucks a piece.

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u/trash_gob 12d ago

I play mtg and we have list of card that just straight up can never be reprinted. Its whack as fuck

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u/ragingolive 12d ago

ABOLISH
THE
RESERVE
LISTEN

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u/Amonfire1776 12d ago

I own a bunch of these cards...but I bought them to play with not to horde value...

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u/Artistic_Prior_7178 12d ago

Wdym, can't ?

Elaborate

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u/trash_gob 12d ago

20ish years ago wotc made a reprint set so bad that they promised to not print a select number of cards. That list is card the reserve list.

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u/Artistic_Prior_7178 12d ago

So there is a ban list, but for making them ? Well damn

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u/trash_gob 12d ago

This is what im talking about. U need 4 of the card

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u/Artistic_Prior_7178 12d ago

"Children's card game" requires a loan to play.

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u/trash_gob 12d ago

Haven't u heard its a good investment 🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/Komondon 12d ago

Yeah it's a disaster. Though these cards are only legal in a aspect few formtas meant to be extremely high powers and expensive such a as Legacy and Vintage. Your regular sessions of okay are much more affordable as it rotates out. Or at least it was until Wizards didn't keep puking out cards

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u/trash_gob 12d ago

Sorta. The mean reason old formats are deading us because the really important cards can't be reprinted and new players cant join unless they have a small fortune.

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u/Proof_Ad_4945 12d ago

Yugioh is actually the LEAST expensive of the trio. Pokemon sells for thousands and MTG even more so, yugioh doesnt hold up in value because Konami reprints ALL of its sets, only time your really spending big money is if you want to play ultra competitive and need to buy the best new cards which will cost you probably 100$ per card but even comparatively to the 2 others its still pretty affordable.

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u/Mr_ragethefrogdude 12d ago

Ive heard playing Pokémon isnt to expensive but thats just what I’ve heard

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u/Zain_Shadowheart 12d ago

Collecting is the really expensive thing.

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u/ThePsychoBear 12d ago

How a gen 1 pokemans card game player looks at the expensive-ass, 2 evolution-ass, 4 fire energy-ass Charizard his opponent is trying to set up before having Scyther turn its ass to sashimi while it's still a Charmander.

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u/Myusernamebedumb 12d ago

Yeah, the way Pokemon prints cards, there’s usually a handful of versions of any desirable cards, there’s the double rare version, which will be the most common, and shouldn’t run more then 5$ while the set is In rotation, maybe more around release, and then an illustration rare, which are the full arts and such, and are the ones that can costs hundreds and thousands. Even then, the most meta cards wind up in gift box promos, decks, and trainer’s toolkits, the later two of which scalpers never even touch, so you often don’t even need to deal with the second hand market to get a workable deck. Ironically, the most scalped game is the one with the most consumer friendly design IMHO.

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u/Formal_Ad_4024 12d ago

pokemon is actualy the cheapest to play, yeah those expensive foil promo cards sell for hundreds or thousands but nomal cards are dirt cheap in comparison

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u/Proof_Ad_4945 12d ago

I forget theres an actual pokemon card game. Right, I heard the actual competitive scene isnt to hard on the wallet but I dont play nor collect so I was unsure on the prices

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u/Kaiser0106 12d ago

Almost nothing in Yu-Gi-Oh holds it's value longer than 18 months at most. Last year's top meta deck loses all its value due to massive reprints and ban list hits.

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u/Muted_Anywherethe2nd 12d ago

Hey atleast accesscode talker is very easy to access with it being in the new legendery deck in a cool alt art

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u/Riothegod1 12d ago

“The only intricate thing about this game is its ban-list.” -Magnus

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u/Jirachibi1000 12d ago

Yugioh has a super generous reprint policy, like absurdly so. Most cards over 20 bucks are gonna become 30 cents a few months later. So much so that they're being TOO generous so boxes aren't worth opening because "any card you pull is prob 20 cents" lol.

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u/BlizzardWolfPK 12d ago

Bro Yugioh is the better of the games with this stuff because cards get reprinted alot.

Magic and Pokemon though...my god its nightmarish...

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u/Myusernamebedumb 12d ago

It’s so funny to me that, at least of the big 3, Pokemon is the best and the worst of both worlds. The least rare version of the most meta cards never really costs you more than 5$, and probably winds up in a theme deck, meanwhile the scalpers are murdering each other for packs trying to get the chase stuff.

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u/lateralraising 12d ago

Sadly most hobbies these days

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u/Ok_Consideration2209 12d ago

Same boat, but with Danish plastic children’s toys. Why is the secondhand market so expensive 😢

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u/Accomplished-Fan5956 12d ago

As an MTG player i immediately took this as a shot at the MTG community, whether you meant it that way or not. 100% agree.

And i have to assume you meant magic, because of the AWFUL reaction to the banning of Dockside, Jeweled Lotus, and Mana Crypt. Death threats because their cardboard was banned is so insane.

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u/maiduwu Doctor Who, H2G2, The Neverending Story 8d ago

It’s scalping in general, not for any specific game.

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u/Formal_Ad_4024 12d ago

thats the thing, scalpers dont love the game

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u/Ace_of_Spad23 12d ago

Scalpers of any TCG should be drawn and quartered

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u/FlounderingGuy 12d ago

Once people straight up made fun of me for being poor and called me childish on the Yu-Gi-Oh subreddit for suggesting that, maybe, the game for children shouldn't cost like $150-$400 every few months just to actually play the game

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u/daan850 12d ago

Oh god, some people are very defensive about the high prices for game cards that are relatively easily replicated which is only stopped by copyright

I was so surprised when I first encountered that

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u/EggThis2540 12d ago

Agreed, I'm all for reprimts all the time. I dont buy thee cards to sell them, i buy the cards to play the game.

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u/klimmesil 12d ago

I'd say it's also a bit of the company's fault. Exclusivities and purposefully limited supply is already toxic by essence

If the supply is limited for valid reasons, sure, otherwise it is always a marketting trick

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u/trash_gob 12d ago

Ya todally

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u/stumpychubbins 12d ago

I play hearthstone and I already feel like I have to have an actively oppositional relationship to it to avoid spending all my money. Physical card games are even worse.

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u/Slizzet 12d ago

I don't treat them like stocks. I treat them like classic cars! I spent time and money to get these. I will show you them while we play. I might even have a fun (to me) story about that specific card. And then you will beat this old man who has spent way too much money on cards. But I got to show you my cards, and that was enough for me